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dorayme
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      05-12-2009
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> I go to my bank web site quite often to check my balance, etc. I
> seldom bother to read anything else, since it seldom changes. The site
> is a rather proper plain design. However very rarely a huge marquee in
> large red letters scrolls across the page. This does get one's notice.
> You might get such a marquee concerning some problem with the site
> that people need to know about at once. Of course you could get
> attention to a message by using a temporary page to go to when you
> sign in with an auto redirect to the usual page after some selected
> time or when the user clicks a button. Or you could use bright
> flashing text, etc. to get attention.The important point is that the
> marquee or other device used be out of character with the page and
> nearly impossible to avoid. On the other hand, if one has page that is
> usually filled with marquees, flashing text, elaborate moving flash
> ads, etc., a special notice marquee might easily go unnoticed by
> repeat users of the page. In that case you might have to go to extreme
> means to attract attention to a very important special message such as
> by using a script "marquee" that allows images as well as text and
> using scrolling nudes as well as text . A siren recording added
> also might help .


I have used marquees to test how fast pictures of toy cars go on my
various browsers. Guess what? They go jerkily and more slowly on the
only IE browser I have on my Mac, MacIE 5! On Safari they look so sleek
and smooth... FF3 is a bit more hesitant.

<http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/marquee/race.html>

and

when I need blinking to combine with horizontal dynamics:

<http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/marquee/blinkingCars.html>

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Gus Richter
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      05-12-2009
cwdjrxyz wrote:
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> ... using a script "marquee" that allows images as well as text ...



No need to use a script marquee since marquee itself allows images as
well as text. A simple :

<marquee><img src="image.jpg"></marquee>

BTW, a lot of talk about ticker tape type of marquee. Many comment, but
don't know what marquee actually can do; not only left/right but also
up/down. From old notes not updated, but works:

<marquee bgcolor=lightblue width=300 height=100 direction=up>Fun with
the Marquee tag!</marquee>

[Not that I endorse or use marquee myself. Just informational.]

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Jonathan N. Little
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      05-12-2009
dorayme wrote:
> In article <gua9au$jp0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Jonathan N. Little" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>> dorayme wrote:
>>> In article <gu9gb0$q2g$(E-Mail Removed)>,
>>> "Jonathan N. Little" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A marquee will
>>>> not be a marquee if in its appearance is does not tick across like a
>>>> marquee. In contrast a heading will still be a heading even if it does
>>>> not have the default "look" of being bolder, bigger, and with and
>>>> vertical margin...
>>> At least this argument is no good. Is a heading that does not look like
>>> a heading, sound like a heading, feel like a heading or smell like one,
>>> still nevertheless a heading? I don't think so!

>> Sure. How you your define a heading? Here we have plain text:
>>
>> Widgets
>>
>> What will follow is an extended description about widgets....
>>
>>

> Notice how your single line "Widgets" is on a single line, on its own.
> That is *not* what I call 'not looking or smelling or sounding like a
> heading'.
>


BUT it is STYLED the same as the paragraph is my point yet its function
in the document remains a heading. Not so with a MARQUEE.



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dorayme
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      05-12-2009
In article <guainq$q7g$(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Jonathan N. Little" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > In article <gua9au$jp0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > "Jonathan N. Little" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> dorayme wrote:
> >>> In article <gu9gb0$q2g$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >>> "Jonathan N. Little" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> A marquee will
> >>>> not be a marquee if in its appearance is does not tick across like a
> >>>> marquee. In contrast a heading will still be a heading even if it does
> >>>> not have the default "look" of being bolder, bigger, and with and
> >>>> vertical margin...
> >>> At least this argument is no good. Is a heading that does not look like
> >>> a heading, sound like a heading, feel like a heading or smell like one,
> >>> still nevertheless a heading? I don't think so!
> >> Sure. How you your define a heading? Here we have plain text:
> >>
> >> Widgets
> >>
> >> What will follow is an extended description about widgets....
> >>
> >>

> > Notice how your single line "Widgets" is on a single line, on its own.
> > That is *not* what I call 'not looking or smelling or sounding like a
> > heading'.
> >

>
> BUT it is STYLED the same as the paragraph is my point yet its function
> in the document remains a heading. Not so with a MARQUEE.


First, your Widgets does not quite look like a paragraph, a paragraph is
.... well ... longer looking with a few sentences.

Second, if you style a marquee as a paragraph it will still be a
marquee. And if a marquee is a sort of special super heading, as Ben
speculates, then by the law of the transitivity of identity, it is a
super heading in the style of a paragraph. Of course it is not going *to
look like* a paragraph! Would a naughty elephant that tried to hide from
the police by standing like a post box because it thought coppers were
too dumb to notice the difference look like a post box? Of course not!

Perhaps I miss your exact point? What should I do to make that penny
drop (no, I can't do that, don't be rude!)? <g>

Are you saying one cannot style a marquee as plain text? Well, maybe
that is is because it is such a damn good super heading, it won't let
earthlings tamper with it - this is a plus not a minus, surely? It has
various built in attributes to make it do and look different but it is
not all things to all men, agreed.

Best I can do is make it stop in *some* browsers at *some* font sizes is:

<http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/marquee/almostStaticPlainText.html>

Perhaps John Hoskings might advise you of the futility of arguing with
dorayme when it finds it hard to take something seriously? Whatever you
do, do *not* consult Bergamot, he takes *everything* I say seriously and
he will *mislead* you Jonathan. <g>

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