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Clayburn
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      03-20-2009
On Mar 20, 2:56*pm, Clayburn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2:42*pm, richard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT), Clayburn

>
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >On Mar 20, 12:59*pm, Clayburn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >> I have a form with a text field. *I added it to a website already
> > >> designed by a previous company. *Eventually I'll redesign the entire
> > >> site, but for now I need to get this to work. *However, in IE, there
> > >> is a line before the text field and as a result, the tables get messed
> > >> up, creating a bunch of extra space between tables. *You can see the
> > >> difference in Firefox and IE. *It works fine in Firefox.

>
> > >> Can someone tell me how best to fix this in IE?

>
> > >Sorry, I forgot to put the URL. *It'shttp://www.gelbcenter.com

>
> > I just realized that the line might be coming from the fact the "form"
> > is not inside the area it's supposed to be in. If you could move that
> > up a line or two, that should help.

>
> Okay, I think I got it. *The problem is for some reason the </form>
> creates an extra line. *So I put the <form> begin tag and hidden
> inputs right after the body tag, and the closing form tag right before
> the closing body tag. *So, basically the form is the entire page, so
> the extra line(s) created by it are above and blow the content.
>
> How's it look?


Okay, I think it's done. The form was working, there was just a delay
for some reason in the email for a while. I think the server was
having problems. But yeah, it seems to be working now and looks right
in IE and Firefox.
 
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dorayme
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      03-20-2009
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
richard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Use divisions and set the CSS in em's.


Are you practicing, for a part in a play maybe, some sort of listening
problem?

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dorayme
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      03-20-2009
In article
<(E-Mail Removed)>,
Clayburn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Okay, I think it's done.


You might be thinking that rewriting this site - as you said is your
intention - will take a while. Do not delay because of the difficulty of
making it look like this in every detail. You can make it look very
roughly similar quickly enough and add things later for the finer zing
that gives it that modern arty feel.

I assume you are aware of the screams it causes browsers that associate
with validators. Do you know that browsers like FF and iCab are mates
with their validators? They go to the pub together and take the **** out
of various sites that have come their way and their language gets pretty
rough the more they drink.

Only the other day I heard iCab saying to FF:

"Oh yeah? Well, mate, check this arty number that came my way, it was ok
for a while and I liked the nice sheila on it but f*#!* hell, maaaaate,

http://www.gelbcenter.com/pages/home.htm

HTML Error (11, 0): The tag <meta> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (12, 0): The tag <meta> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (13, 0): The tag <script> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (14, 0): The tag <script> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (28, 0): The tag <link> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (30, 7): The tag <head> is missing.

HTML Error (34, 0): The tag <body> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (40, 34): The attribute "alt" is missing.

HTML Error (90, 3): The tag <TABLE> is unknown.

HTML Error (92, 2): The tag <tr> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (104, 0): The tag <center> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (121, 10): The end tag </br> is missing.

HTML Error (123, 16): The end tag </TABLE> is unknown.

HTML Error (149, 17): The attribute "quality" is unknown.

HTML Error (149, 17): The attribute "wmode" is unknown.

HTML Error (149, 16): The tag <embed> is not allowed in the Doctype of
the document.

HTML Error (183, 54): The attribute "alt" is missing.

HTML Error (440, 29): The attribute "alt" is missing.

HTML Error (462, 24): The tag <div> is missing.

HTML Error (463, 42): The tag <td> is missing.

HTML Error (465, 19): The tag <tr> is missing.

HTML Error (467, 20): The tag <table> is missing.

HTML Error (467, 25): The tag <td> is missing.

HTML Error (469, 15): The tag <tr> is missing.

HTML Error (471, 10): The tag <tr> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (473, 55): The attribute "alt" is missing.

HTML Error (477, 4): The tag <tr> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (483, 16): The tag <table> is missing.

HTML Error (483, 21): The tag <td> is missing.

HTML Error (485, 11): The tag <tr> is missing.

HTML Error (487, 6): The tag <tr> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (489, 85): The attribute "alt" is missing.

HTML Error (493, 12): The tag <table> is missing.

HTML Error (493, 17): The tag <td> is missing.

HTML Error (495, 7): The tag <tr> is missing.

HTML Error (497, 2): The tag <tr> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (503, : The end tag </body> is missing.

HTML Error (503, : The end tag </meta> is missing.

HTML Error (503, : The end tag </meta> is missing.

HTML Error (503, : The end tag </meta> is missing.

HTML Error (503, : The end tag </head> is missing.

HTML Error (503, : The end tag </html> is missing.

HTML Error (523, 5): The tag <a> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (525, 5): The tag <a> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (527, 5): The tag <a> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (529, 5): The tag <a> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (531, 14): The tag <a> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (533, 14): The tag <a> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (535, 14): The tag <a> is not allowed in its parent tag.

HTML Error (535, 53): The end tag </br> is missing.

http://www.google.com/coop/cse/brand...ch-box&lang=en

HTML Error (1, 0): The tag <title> is missing.

http://adtrack.voicestar.com/euinc/number-changer.js

HTML Error (2, 0): The tag <title> is missing.

HTML Error (112, 26): The tag <SCR'> is unknown.

HTML Error (112, 26): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (112, 26): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (112, 26): The attribute "'IPT" is unknown.

HTML Error (112, 26): The value of the HTML attribute "'IPT" is missing.

HTML Error (112, 5: The end tag </SCR'> is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The tag <nr;> is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "i++){" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "i++){" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "if(" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "if(" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "pd[i].repl" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "num" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "num" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "||" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "||" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "!" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "!" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "pd[i].repl" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "pd[i].repl" is
missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "){" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "){" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "if(" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "if(" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "pd[i].dont" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "pd[i].dont" is
missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute ")" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute ")" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "break;" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "break;" is
missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "rw" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "if(" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "if(" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "rw" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "rw" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "){" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "){" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "na" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "nb" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "nc" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "rw" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "m[1]" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "m[1]" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "m[2]" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "m[2]" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "na" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "na" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "m[4]" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "m[4]" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "nb" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "nb" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "m[6]" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "m[6]" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "nc" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "nc" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "m[8];" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "m[8];" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "this.debug("rewriting:" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute
"this.debug("rewriting:" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute """ is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute """ is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "numfull" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "numfull" is
missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute "+" is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute "+" is missing.

HTML Error (133, 16): The attribute """ is unknown.

HTML Error (133, 16): The value of the HTML attribute """ is missing.

http://www.gelbcenter.com/gelb.css

CSS Error (163, 15): The property "filter" is unknown.

CSS Error (199, 1): The property "filter" is unknown.

CSS Warning (199, 26): The property "-moz-opacity" is unknown.

CSS Error (199, 43): The property "opacity" is unknown.

...."

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rf
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      03-20-2009
Clayburn wrote:
> On Mar 20, 1:50 pm, richard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT), Clayburn


>>>>> Sorry, I forgot to put the URL. It'shttp://www.gelbcenter.com


> What should I do about IE? How can I get rid of the extra space?
> They sliced an image for the table background, so it's important that
> they line up correctly.


I thought I explained that this is never going to happen.

You have just proved how terribly fragile this design is.


 
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rf
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      03-20-2009
Clayburn wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2:42 pm, richard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT), Clayburn
>>
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> On Mar 20, 12:59 pm, Clayburn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>> I have a form with a text field. I added it to a website already
>>>> designed by a previous company. Eventually I'll redesign the entire
>>>> site, but for now I need to get this to work. However, in IE, there
>>>> is a line before the text field and as a result, the tables get
>>>> messed up, creating a bunch of extra space between tables. You can
>>>> see the difference in Firefox and IE. It works fine in Firefox.

>>
>>>> Can someone tell me how best to fix this in IE?

>>
>>> Sorry, I forgot to put the URL. It'shttp://www.gelbcenter.com

>>
>> I just realized that the line might be coming from the fact the
>> "form" is not inside the area it's supposed to be in. If you could
>> move that up a line or two, that should help.

>
> Okay, I think I got it. The problem is for some reason the </form>
> creates an extra line.


No, the problem is not "for some reason the </form> creates an extra line".
The problem is that the form element has, by default and per the
specifications, top and bottom margins, which may or may not collapse
depending what is before or after the form. Many elements (hn, p, etc) have
top and bottom margins.

You could have removed these margins:
form {margin: 0}



 
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richard
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      03-21-2009
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT), Clayburn
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mar 20, 12:59*pm, Clayburn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> I have a form with a text field. *I added it to a website already
>> designed by a previous company. *Eventually I'll redesign the entire
>> site, but for now I need to get this to work. *However, in IE, there
>> is a line before the text field and as a result, the tables get messed
>> up, creating a bunch of extra space between tables. *You can see the
>> difference in Firefox and IE. *It works fine in Firefox.
>>
>> Can someone tell me how best to fix this in IE?

>
>Sorry, I forgot to put the URL. It's http://www.gelbcenter.com


At least with IE now that line is gone.


still, all that table stuff has to go.

 
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richard
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      03-21-2009
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:00:37 +1100, dorayme
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article
><(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Clayburn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I think it's done.

>
>You might be thinking that rewriting this site - as you said is your
>intention - will take a while. Do not delay because of the difficulty of
>making it look like this in every detail. You can make it look very
>roughly similar quickly enough and add things later for the finer zing
>that gives it that modern arty feel.
>
>I assume you are aware of the screams it causes browsers that associate
>with validators. Do you know that browsers like FF and iCab are mates
>with their validators? They go to the pub together and take the **** out
>of various sites that have come their way and their language gets pretty
>rough the more they drink.
>
>Only the other day I heard iCab saying to FF:
>
>"Oh yeah? Well, mate, check this arty number that came my way, it was ok
>for a while and I liked the nice sheila on it but f*#!* hell, maaaaate,
>
>http://www.gelbcenter.com/pages/home.htm
>
>HTML Error (11, 0): The tag <meta> is not allowed in its parent tag.
>
>HTML Error (12, 0): The tag <meta> is not allowed in its parent tag.
>
>HTML Error (13, 0): The tag <script> is not allowed in its parent tag.
>
>HTML Error (14, 0): The tag <script> is not allowed in its parent tag.
>
>HTML Error (28, 0): The tag <link> is not allowed in its parent tag.
>
>HTML Error (30, 7): The tag <head> is missing.
>
>HTML Error (34, 0): The tag <body> is not allowed in its parent tag.
>
>HTML Error (40, 34): The attribute "alt" is missing.
>
>HTML Error (90, 3): The tag <TABLE> is unknown.


bwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha

<table> is unknown?

I wouldn't rely on that piece of **** for validating.
 
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dorayme
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      03-21-2009
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
richard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> >
> >HTML Error (34, 0): The tag <body> is not allowed in its parent tag.
> >
> >HTML Error (40, 34): The attribute "alt" is missing.
> >
> >HTML Error (90, 3): The tag <TABLE> is unknown.

>


>
> <table> is unknown?
>
> I wouldn't rely on that piece of **** for validating.


Driver, understand that the errors need interpreting, all good
validators flag things for good reasons, but you can't be drunk when
using them. Step out of that truck and don't continue until your blood
alcohol reading subsides.

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
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      03-21-2009
richard wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
>> HTML Error (90, 3): The tag <TABLE> is unknown.

>
> bwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
>
> <table> is unknown?


No, <table> is known, but <TABLE> is not.

element "TABLE" undefined.
<TABLE cellspacing=0 border=0>
This error is often caused by:
by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and elements
must be all lower-case).

> I wouldn't rely on that piece of **** for validating.


It is an extremely good piece of ****. Unlike you, it knows that one
must use lower-case words in XHTML elements.

bwaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha

The page in question is a trainwreck.

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Neredbojias
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      03-21-2009
On 20 Mar 2009, "rf" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Clayburn wrote:


>> Okay, I think I got it. The problem is for some reason the </form>
>> creates an extra line.

>
> No, the problem is not "for some reason the </form> creates an extra
> line". The problem is that the form element has, by default and per
> the specifications, top and bottom margins, which may or may not
> collapse depending what is before or after the form. Many elements
> (hn, p, etc) have top and bottom margins.
>
> You could have removed these margins:
> form {margin: 0}


I'd have thought that would've been the first thing anybody suggested
to the OP.

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