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On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:01:42 GMT, "rf" <> wrote:

>richard wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:46:16 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Moe wrote:
>
>>> The second link RtS gave has only the two lists, but still has the
>>> 12,000+ line of code.
>>
>>
>> BTW, most of those errors you see should be corrected when I get to
>> working on the tables that will go below the text boxes.
>> I only did it that way for testing anyways.
>
>How can you test something that has hundreds of errors? You don't know
>*what* the browser is going to do with it.
>

Same way as you can put up a page, that works, with thousands of
errors in it.

On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:49:20 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<> wrote:

>richard wrote:
>
>> You did not say before that you had looked at the page source itself.
>> What you did see is correct. That is the output generated by the
>> program in the manner, more or less, as php outputs an html page.
>
>My PHP does not output pages on a single line 24,085 characters long.
>Tell it to use linefeeds between objects.
>
>> As for the validations and that, perhaps you should point out that
>> side to the author himself. See www.runbasic.com for his email.
>> I'm sure his vast experience outweighs yours by several light years.
>
>I've no interest in seeing runbasic.com. And I doubt if his web
>authoring experience is better than mine at all.
>
>> As I've seen the validator spit out false errors many a times.
>> Like in URL's that have a quoted section, which should be bypassed.
>> Like why does the validator return an error on a ? within the url?
>> Because it's not setup to disregard it.
>
>Like why? Because they are errors according to the XHTML specs. It's
>that simple.
>
>New work should be Strict. Transitional is reserved for updating legacy
>pages.

Which is only an opinion. It is not mandatory.

In all fairness, run basic is an application, not a web page creator.
Kind of like inserting a java applet.
Or the insertion of a flash ad.
Although I could write the entire page using run basic, I won't.
My application will become part of another web page. Not the whole
thing.

richard wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> New work should be Strict. Transitional is reserved for updating
>> legacy pages.
>
> Which is only an opinion. It is not mandatory.

No, it isn't mandatory, but it is the opinion of many in this group
where you asked for this evaluation.

> In all fairness, run basic is an application, not a web page creator.

Well, there ya go!

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows

"richard" <> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:49:20 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> <> wrote:
>
>>richard wrote:
>>
>>> You did not say before that you had looked at the page source itself.
>>> What you did see is correct. That is the output generated by the
>>> program in the manner, more or less, as php outputs an html page.
>>
>>My PHP does not output pages on a single line 24,085 characters long.
>>Tell it to use linefeeds between objects.
>>
>>> As for the validations and that, perhaps you should point out that
>>> side to the author himself. See www.runbasic.com for his email.
>>> I'm sure his vast experience outweighs yours by several light years.
>>
>>I've no interest in seeing runbasic.com. And I doubt if his web
>>authoring experience is better than mine at all.
>>
>>> As I've seen the validator spit out false errors many a times.
>>> Like in URL's that have a quoted section, which should be bypassed.
>>> Like why does the validator return an error on a ? within the url?
>>> Because it's not setup to disregard it.
>>
>>Like why? Because they are errors according to the XHTML specs. It's
>>that simple.
>>
>>New work should be Strict. Transitional is reserved for updating legacy
>>pages.
>
> Which is only an opinion. It is not mandatory.
>

No, it's not mandatory, but it is the intention of those that created the
standards, therefore you should try to stick to it. Even microsoft is
*trying* to adhere to the W3C standards these days.

Richard, you posted into an HTML newsgroup. Expect your pages be be
evaluated in that light, or don't post them here... that simple.

> In all fairness, run basic is an application, not a web page creator.
> Kind of like inserting a java applet.
> Or the insertion of a flash ad.
> Although I could write the entire page using run basic, I won't.
> My application will become part of another web page. Not the whole
> thing.
>

richard wrote:

> In all fairness, run basic is an application, not a web page creator.

So what's it doing pretending to create web pages?

> Kind of like inserting a java applet.

No, it's not. Run basic is outputing HTML just like PHP does.

> Or the insertion of a flash ad.

No it's not.

richard wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:01:42 GMT, "rf" <> wrote:
>
>> richard wrote:
>>> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:46:16 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Moe wrote:
>>
>>>> The second link RtS gave has only the two lists, but still has the
>>>> 12,000+ line of code.
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, most of those errors you see should be corrected when I get to
>>> working on the tables that will go below the text boxes.
>>> I only did it that way for testing anyways.
>>
>> How can you test something that has hundreds of errors? You don't
>> know *what* the browser is going to do with it.
>>
>
> Same way as you can put up a page, that works, with thousands of
> errors in it.

I don't put up a page with thousands of errors in it. If you do then you are
at the mercy of the browsers error correction. Who knows, version 9 browsers
may choose to not correct your errors as completely.

On 08 Mar 2009, richard <> wrote:

> In all fairness, run basic is an application, not a web page creator.

Then why use it, particularly if it causes errors?

> Kind of like inserting a java applet.
> Or the insertion of a flash ad.
> Although I could write the entire page using run basic, I won't.
> My application will become part of another web page. Not the whole
> thing.

A boat half filled with holes will sink just as surely as a boat
completely filled with holes.

--
Awful Dog Autry

In article <>,
Awful Dog Autry <> wrote:

> A boat half filled with holes will sink just as surely as a boat
> completely filled with holes.

Only if time is left out of the equation. And a lot of boat sinking
actions can be carried out in t mins which cannot be carried out in 0.5
t mins.

--
dorayme

In article <doraymeRidThis->,
dorayme <> wrote:

> nd a lot of boat sinking
> actions can be carried out in t mins which cannot be carried out in 0.5
> t mins.

and a lot of boat sinking *avoidance* actions can be carried out in...

--
dorayme

On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:01:14 -0700, Jim Moe
<jmm-> wrote:

>On 03/08/09 01:19 pm, Jim Moe wrote:
>>> <http://www.1littleworld.net:8008/seaside/go/runbasicpersonal?_s=DhwnDYeKiXRBYJGK&_k=ZcFjJOtI>
>>>
>> Looking the URL's page I got two list boxes, yellow and green, and a
>> page full of:
>>
>> "This application has unexpectedly terminated
>> Please contact your webmaster."
>>
> Now I get: "Your Run BASIC Session Has Expired". The link takes me to a
>login page.
> Dude. How can this be useful?

You got that because I posted the wrong link originally.
Delete everything after the ? and replace with app=zip1

What you see now is only the first part. I will soon have more that
will make things much clearer.