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Hello!

I LOVE privacy. Is there a way to set up a website anonymously? Right
now anyone can use whois http://www.yourwebsite.com and he'll find out
who the domain is registered to. There is the possibility to use a
company that offers you a proxy server but then that company legally
becomes the holder of that domain.

I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable to
the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?

Are there some top level domains that are more suitable for this than
other?

Is there anybody out there who can offer me some help, give me some
pointers of something?

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:06:35 -0800 (PST), wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I LOVE privacy. Is there a way to set up a website anonymously? Right
> now anyone can use whois http://www.yourwebsite.com and he'll find out
> who the domain is registered to. There is the possibility to use a
> company that offers you a proxy server but then that company legally
> becomes the holder of that domain.
>
> I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable to
> the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?
>
> Are there some top level domains that are more suitable for this than
> other?
>
> Is there anybody out there who can offer me some help, give me some
> pointers of something?

Lie.
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Meet Ari! http://tr.im/1fa3
"To get concrete results, you have to be confrontational".

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:10:02 -0500, Ari© wrote:
The person who calls himself "No One", but who's real name is Dan
Camper, used this as his signature in his post above:

Meet Ari! http://tr.im/1fa3

Only thing is, the person depicted in the photograph at
http://tr.im/1fa3 is *not* Frank J. Camper, or as he calls himself,
"Ari".

That is a photo of "Kinky" Friedman, who has a webpage at
http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/

FYI

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:06:35 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

>I LOVE privacy. Is there a way to set up a website anonymously? Right
>now anyone can use whois http://www.yourwebsite.com and he'll find out
>who the domain is registered to. There is the possibility to use a
>company that offers you a proxy server but then that company legally
>becomes the holder of that domain.
>
>I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable to
>the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?

Sure. Host your website on 10.0.0.1
Or on 127.0.0.1
Absolute privacy guaranteed. And cheap too.

--
Kind regards,
Gerard Bok

wrote:

> I LOVE privacy. Is there a way to set up a website anonymously? Right
> now anyone can use whois http://www.yourwebsite.com and he'll find
> out who the domain is registered to.

$ whois yourwebsite.com

Registrant:
yourwebsite
36480 Peugeot Place
Newark, California 94560
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: YOURWEBSITE.COM
Created on: 02-Jan-98
Expires on: 01-Jan-10
Last Updated on: 29-Dec-08

Perhaps you would want to use "example.com" (reserved for the purpose)
instead of a domain name actually owned by someone.

> There is the possibility to use a company that offers you a proxy
> server but then that company legally becomes the holder of that
> domain.

Got a cite for that? I've a couple of domains and the privacy company
does *not* own them.

> I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable
> to the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?

Yes. Avail yourself of the privacy services offered by your registrar.
Normally, it is an extra-cost option, maybe $9USD or about 78 Swedish
Kronor per year.

> Are there some top level domains that are more suitable for this than
> other?

No.

> Is there anybody out there who can offer me some help, give me some
> pointers of something?

Explore your registrar's site for the privacy option. Ex:
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/dbp/landing.asp?ci=9002

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-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows

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@n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com:

> Hello!
>
> I LOVE privacy. Is there a way to set up a website anonymously? Right
> now anyone can use whois http://www.yourwebsite.com and he'll find out
> who the domain is registered to. There is the possibility to use a
> company that offers you a proxy server but then that company legally
> becomes the holder of that domain.
>
> I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable to
> the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?
>
> Are there some top level domains that are more suitable for this than
> other?
>
> Is there anybody out there who can offer me some help, give me some
> pointers of something?


It can be done very privately but it requires *your own* company.

I give the strongest way below but using any company (either one you
already own or a newly-set-up one - I believe *everyone* should own at
least one company) will go a long way to shielding your personal privacy.

For ordinary privacy (not, say, thwarting a multi-million-dollar lawsuit)
the **simple unadorned version** (i.e., any old company with no
embellishments, with all domain registration addresses, etc. as the
company's) is plenty.

But if you want *maximum* privacy, here's how:

A (USian) LLC is preferable to a traditional company. And the best LLC
is a New Mexico one (permits bearer shares, etc.). An LLC has an address
for its New Mexico "agent" but the address of the actual LLC can be (and
usually is) elsewhere (in fact, the mailing address can be different from
the place of business address and both can be different from the agent's
NM address). There is no list of LLC members, etc. (well, there is, but
it's at the LLC's - possibly offshore - place of business It will be
next to impossible to trace you personally if you set this up right
(e.g., have an intermediary set up the LLC and then you buy all the
bearer shares, etc.).

Domain registration (I'll speak of .com; requirements can be different
for some others) is in the company/LLC's name (not a person's). The
other names that must be given (administrative contact, technical
contact, etc) will not have personal data for address, etc. but rather
will use the *company's* address, phone number, email, etc. Anyone
trying to compromise the privacy of a real live human being (whose name
may itself be fictitious - the LLC fired and replaced its "administrative
contact" last month if anyone inquires will dead-end at the LLC agent
(or the LLC's mail drop address) or the actual domain site. (In fact, if
the domain is hosted, it is common for the "technical contact" to be the
hosting site fellow.)

This is much better than lying (it would be a real PITA if, after using a
domain name for years, you lost it because of a registration
irregularity) or going through a registration intermediary like Godaddy
(who then becomes the *real* owner of your domain name).

Regards,

PS Initially setting up the LLC (or just a company in your home
jurisdiction) will typically cost only a few hundred dollars ($300-500)
and annual operating costs (essentially just for the NM agent) are
typically $100-200. Not free, but well within reach of anyone who truly
values his privacy. Pay the LLC fees and the domain name fees with cash
or money orders.

(Incidentally an LLC - or better, several of them - have many other uses
for privacy purposes. There will be no tax complications if your LLC does
no serious business and/or operates on a flow-through basis.)

PPS If you are paranoid a number of additional layers of security can be
added such as having any mail directed to a mail-drop, ideally in a
foreign country (again, can be done for $100 or so). Similar precautions
can be done with telephone (e.g., use VOIP, etc.) You can even have the
LLC itself "owned" not by a person but by a different company (LLC, etc.)
possibly offshore (usually this level of security is only needed for
major tax fraud, asset hiding, etc. and not for ordinary privacy).

wrote:

> I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable to
> the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?

Sure. Use a registrar that provides for private registrations. ICANN
requires that registrars provide a name for whomever is responsible for
the domain registration. The loophole is that the registrar volunteers
to be responsible. So you register your domain with them but the
registrar list themself as the contact for that domain. There are
several registrars that now provide private registrations and the number
is growing: GoDaddy with their Domains by Proxy service, Network
Solutions, and WildWest Domains (known for having lots of spam sources
and affiliate to GoDaddy) are some of them.

If customers see that you are hiding that they figure there is a
negative reason to do so and they may not trust you. That's how I feel
when I find a domain owner that tries to hide. There are better ways to
block domain registration related spam. For example, in the e-mail
address you provide for registration (required and is supposed to be a
valid, active, and monitored account), just use a rule in that account
to block all e-mails that don't originate from your registrar. You'll
get their e-mails regarding your registration but dump everyone else's.

http://help.godaddy.com/topic/248
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/dbp/landing.asp?ci=9002
https://www.networksolutions.com/dom...on/private.jsp

However, I've heard that many of them will divulge the actual domain
registrant when pressed for the information and without requiring a
subpoena. If the plantiff provides sufficient cause for divulging that
info, the registrar will release it. You can try to hide. That doesn't
mean you cannot be found.

> I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable to
> the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?

I have one domain registered under a fake name and address, this goes
against the ICANN rules and they will take it away from me when they
find out. But they need to find out first.

If you go down this road I advice you use a working email address to
get your registrar emails and avoid bouncing them.

>
> Are there some top level domains that are more suitable for this than
> other?

Many Ltd domains do not allow whois privacy. I would stick to .com and
..net
>
> Is there anybody out there who can offer me some help, give me some
> pointers of something?

You can use the whois protection service at http://www.namecheap.com

Or Ixquick "Registrar that offers whois protection"

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:22:49 +0100, Frank Merlott
<> wrote:

>> I'd like to be the sole owner of the domain and yet be impenetrable to
>> the whole whois gestapo thing. Is there a way?
>
>I have one domain registered under a fake name and address, this goes
>against the ICANN rules and they will take it away from me when they
>find out. But they need to find out first.

Next problem you may face is proving you are the owner if in fact
the "registered owner" doesn't exist at all

--
Kind regards,
Gerard Bok

On Feb 23, 8:07*pm, Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.com/> wrote:
> Gerard Bok wrote:
>
> >tobit...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>I LOVE privacy.
>
> Why, then, are you posting to USENET in a way that reveals IP
> address information and details about what kind of operating
> system and browser you are using, through a company that is
> well-known for its lack of privacy?

Don't flame me just because I'm a n00b...


> >>Is there a way to set up a website anonymously? Right
> >>now anyone can use whoishttp://www.yourwebsite.comand he'll find out
> >>who the domain is registered to. There is the possibility to use a
> >>company that offers you a proxy server but then that company legally
> >>becomes the holder of that domain.
>
> Nonsense. I use 000Domains and they were quite specific in saying
> that their WHOIS privacy service is done by them providing their
> information in the WHOIS database rather than yours, and that you
> still have the same ownership rights (subject to ICAAN policies)
> as before.

This contradicts what nemo_outis says.