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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:15:36 -0500, richard <>
wrote:

>BULL ****ING ****! (texas style!)
>
>Why do you think the proposal got dumped the last time?
>
>So Mr. Senator, like you've got a dozen computers in that fancy house
>of yours and they're all connected via a wifi router right?
>Like you're gonna play by your own rules? Yeah right.
>
>Now explain to me if you can sir, just exactly how are hotels, motels
>and the like gonna keep records of every user on their system? Then,
>how ya gonna know precisely which guest it is that used the system?
>
>As I live in motels, I know only too well many systems don't know who
>is using their system. Is that user a guest or someone nearby?
>
>Now kindly go back to keep track of tumbleweeds you frickin fruitcake.

Pretty simple. A few of our customers already have this configured for
their setup.

You want free access at our hotel? Provide a credit card number. You
aren't charged. Your credit card will be authorized for $1, but not
charged.

Or, you want access? Go to the front desk. Front desk gives you
username / password that's linked to you. (ie you're in room 33, your
username is room33, your password is your last name.)

Plenty of ways to do it.
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Are the logs going to be used as evidence and who will foot the cost.
I'm not buying all that extra equipment just to store some pointless log
files.

Evan Platt wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:15:36 -0500, richard <>
> wrote:
>
>> BULL ****ING ****! (texas style!)
>>
>> Why do you think the proposal got dumped the last time?
>>
>> So Mr. Senator, like you've got a dozen computers in that fancy house
>> of yours and they're all connected via a wifi router right?
>> Like you're gonna play by your own rules? Yeah right.
>>
>> Now explain to me if you can sir, just exactly how are hotels, motels
>> and the like gonna keep records of every user on their system? Then,
>> how ya gonna know precisely which guest it is that used the system?
>>
>> As I live in motels, I know only too well many systems don't know who
>> is using their system. Is that user a guest or someone nearby?
>>
>> Now kindly go back to keep track of tumbleweeds you frickin fruitcake.
>
> Pretty simple. A few of our customers already have this configured for
> their setup.
>
> You want free access at our hotel? Provide a credit card number. You
> aren't charged. Your credit card will be authorized for $1, but not
> charged.
>
> Or, you want access? Go to the front desk. Front desk gives you
> username / password that's linked to you. (ie you're in room 33, your
> username is room33, your password is your last name.)
>
> Plenty of ways to do it.

In message <A0vol.22965$>, Dan wrote:
> Are the logs going to be used as evidence and who will foot the cost.
> I'm not buying all that extra equipment just to store some pointless log
> files.
>
> Evan Platt wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:15:36 -0500, richard <>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> BULL ****ING ****! (texas style!)
> >>
> >> Why do you think the proposal got dumped the last time?
> >>
> >> So Mr. Senator, like you've got a dozen computers in that fancy house
> >> of yours and they're all connected via a wifi router right?
> >> Like you're gonna play by your own rules? Yeah right.
> >>
> >> Now explain to me if you can sir, just exactly how are hotels, motels
> >> and the like gonna keep records of every user on their system? Then,
> >> how ya gonna know precisely which guest it is that used the system?
> >>
> >> As I live in motels, I know only too well many systems don't know who
> >> is using their system. Is that user a guest or someone nearby?
> >>
> >> Now kindly go back to keep track of tumbleweeds you frickin fruitcake.
> >
> > Pretty simple. A few of our customers already have this configured for
> > their setup.
> >
> > You want free access at our hotel? Provide a credit card number. You
> > aren't charged. Your credit card will be authorized for $1, but not
> > charged.
> >
> > Or, you want access? Go to the front desk. Front desk gives you
> > username / password that's linked to you. (ie you're in room 33, your
> > username is room33, your password is your last name.)
> >

ROTFLMAO! Gee...what imaginative security
With any room number you just run a dictionary attack on the password.
Lets start with Adams....

> > Plenty of ways to do it.

Sounds like plenty of ways to hack it too.

Lucky for us theres several open AP's here to hook up to.


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sudden usurpations.... The means of defense against foreign danger historically
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:42:20 -0500, richard <>
wrote:

>The point is, the law is a simple invasion of privacy.

It is?

>Hell, ISP's can already track everything you do.

Only if they want to.


>Then they want us to keep those records for two years? Is the
>government gonna supply us with the space to do this with?

Who's "Us"?

Depending on what data they want stored, it won't take up a lot of
space.

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