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I had the most awful dream today. I went to the store to buy a copy of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus and found out that Symantec had bought-out the
company. Symantec had apparently synergized every other anti-virus
software company, too. The boxes for all other anti-virus software
still looked the same, until you opened the boxes. Then you'd find a
CD-ROM copy of Symantec's anti-virus software, along with a 15-day trial
copy of some sort of utilities bundle. Inside the sealed wrapper was
one of those non-negotiable EULAs that basically said that the buyer had
no rights and that he could not return the software package once the
CD-ROM wrapper had been opened.

So I tried installing the Symantec software on my PC, and after several
reboots, I finally got the software running. Then a message box popped
up and said that my subscription for the software had run out and that I
needed to pay a fee to continue using it. I clicked on the Cancel
button, but it just greyed itself out. Then the subscription expiration
notice filled up my whole screen and demanded that I submit payment
immediately. I hit Alt-Ctrl-Del and rebooted, but all I got was a blank
screen after the Windows boot logo, and in the upper-left corner was a
flashing DOS cursor.

I hit the reset button on the PC and tried to reboot again, but this
time things got really weird. Instead of the Windows logo, I got an
AUTOEXEC.BAT routine and a DOS prompt. I did a DIR and a VER and found
that I had Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS 6.22. There was Norton AntiVirus
v.3.0 installed, along with some other software that looked
vaguely-familiar. Disc space was measured in megabytes, and a telephone
modem sat next to the PC, its red status lights glowing dimly against
the morning sunlight. What was I to do? That's right... CD\DOOM >>
DOOM.EXE! Then I woke up and it was back to things as usual.

Alexander Rogge wrote:

.....
> I hit the reset button on the PC and tried to reboot again, but this
> time things got really weird. Instead of the Windows logo, I got an
> AUTOEXEC.BAT routine and a DOS prompt. I did a DIR and a VER and found
> that I had Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS 6.22. There was Norton AntiVirus
> v.3.0 installed, along with some other software that looked
> vaguely-familiar. Disc space was measured in megabytes, and a telephone
> modem sat next to the PC, its red status lights glowing dimly against
> the morning sunlight. What was I to do? That's right... CD\DOOM >>
> DOOM.EXE! Then I woke up and it was back to things as usual.

Hehe. These beasts ... they didn't include the famous Norton Utilities for
DOS, did they?

Are you *FROGGING* him??

Alexander Rogge wrote:

> I had th-th-the most awfuw dweam today. I went t-t-t-to th-th-the stowe
> t-t-t-to buy a copy of Kaspewsky Anti-Viwus and found out th-th-that
> Symantec had bought-out th-th-the company. Symantec had appawentwy
> synewgized ewewy oth-th-thew anti-wiwus softwawe company, too. De boxes
> fow aww oth-th-thew anti-wiwus softwawe stiww wooked th-th-the same,
> untiw you opened th-th-the boxes. Den you'd find a CD-WOM copy of
> Symantec's anti-wiwus softwawe, awong wif a 15-day twiaw copy of some
> sowt of utiwities bundwe. Inside th-th-the seawed wwappew was one of
> th-th-those non-negotiabwe EUWAs th-th-that basicawwy said th-th-that
> th-th-the buyew had no wights and th-th-that he couwd not wetuwn
> th-th-the softwawe package once th-th-the CD-WOM wwappew had been
> opened.
>
> So I twied instawwing th-th-the Symantec softwawe on my PC, and aftew
> sewewaw weboots, I finawwy got th-th-the softwawe wunning. Den a
> message box popped up and said th-th-that my subscwiption fow th-th-the
> softwawe had wun out and th-th-that I needed t-t-t-to pay a fee t-t-t-to
> continue using it. I cwicked on th-th-the Cancew button, but it just
> gweyed itsewf out. Den th-th-the subscwiption expiwation notice fiwwed
> up my whowe scween and demanded th-th-that I submit payment immediatewy.
> I hit Awt-Ctww-Dew and webooted, but aww I got was a bwank scween aftew
> th-th-the Windows boot wogo, and in th-th-the uppew-weft cownew was a
> fwashing DOS cuwsow.
>
> I hit th-th-the weset button on th-th-the PC and twied t-t-t-to weboot
> again, but th-th-this time th-th-things got weawwy weiwd. Instead of
> th-th-the Windows wogo, I got an AUTOEXEC.BAT owutine and a DOS powmpt.
> I did a DIW and a VEW and found th-th-that I had Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS
> 6.22. Dewe was Nowton AntiViwus w.3.0 instawwed, awong wif some
> oth-th-thew softwawe th-th-that wooked waguewy-famiwiaw. Disc space was
> measuwed in megabytes, and a tewephone modem sat next t-t-t-to th-th-the
> PC, its wed status wights gwowing dimwy against th-th-the mowning
> sunwight. What was I t-t-t-to do? Dat's wight... CD\DOOM >> DOOM.EXE!
> Den I woke up and it was back t-t-t-to th-th-things as usuaw.

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In article <>,
says...
> I had the most awful dream today. I went to the store to buy a copy of
[snip drivel]

I've used Symantec Corporate AV products for more than a decade and
found that they are fast, reliable, low impact on resources more
reliable that most others.

Symantec End Point Protection has worked better than any other AV
product for our systems and clients than anything currently on the
market. Symantec Corp Edition for Workstations and Servers has performed
significantly better than any other product on the market for our
systems as well as our clients systems in the last decade.

Their home user products are not something I would touch, at least not
until this latest version. Certainly they are better than AVG.


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Leythos wrote:
> I've used Symantec Corporate AV products for more than a decade and
> found that they are fast, reliable, low impact on resources more
> reliable that most others.

Then why didn't Symantec bother to maintain that quality in their
consumer software releases? Symantec software has frequently slowed
down PCs, interfered with operating systems, and become increasingly
more annoying with each new version. That goes for McAfee, too. One
easy fix to PC problems is to strip out the Symantec or McAfee
"security" software, and suddenly the PC stops crashing.

wisdomkiller & pain wrote:
> Alexander Rogge wrote:
>> I hit the reset button on the PC and tried to reboot again, but this
>> time things got really weird. Instead of the Windows logo, I got an
>> AUTOEXEC.BAT routine and a DOS prompt. I did a DIR and a VER and found
>> that I had Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS 6.22. There was Norton AntiVirus
>> v.3.0 installed, along with some other software that looked
>> vaguely-familiar.
> Hehe. These beasts ... they didn't include the famous Norton Utilities for
> DOS, did they?

Actually, I believe that the 15-day trial copy was for "SystemWorks". I
had that Norton Utilities for DOS installed, and it was really good,
particularly playing with the Disk Editor and Long File Name support.
Then I got the next version and started having lots of problems.
Microsoft Windows works much better without that bloated software
interfering with it.

wisdomkiller & pain <leaf-> wrote:

>Alexander Rogge wrote:
>
>....
>> I hit the reset button on the PC and tried to reboot again, but this
>> time things got really weird. Instead of the Windows logo, I got an
>> AUTOEXEC.BAT routine and a DOS prompt. I did a DIR and a VER and found
>> that I had Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS 6.22. There was Norton AntiVirus
>> v.3.0 installed, along with some other software that looked
>> vaguely-familiar. Disc space was measured in megabytes, and a telephone
>> modem sat next to the PC, its red status lights glowing dimly against
>> the morning sunlight. What was I to do? That's right... CD\DOOM >>
>> DOOM.EXE! Then I woke up and it was back to things as usual.

>Hehe. These beasts ... they didn't include the famous Norton Utilities for
>DOS, did they?

The first versions for Win95 had a recovery option, it's method was to
reboot into a dos mode and you had Norton dos options to work with.

You really had to look for the Windows Norton directory (hidden from
the newbies), and there were all the recovery programs.

I kept those programs they still work on XP. But I have only ever had
need of (and still use): Unerase and Diskedit - and the reason I still
run FAT32.

F:\Bin\NORTON
BE.EXE
CALIBRAT.EXE
DISKEDIT.EXE
DISKMON.EXE
DISKREET.EXE
DISKREET.SYS
DISKTOOL.EXE
FILEFIND.EXE
FILEFIX.EXE
FILESAVE.EXE
IMAGE.EXE
NCACHE-F.EXE
NCACHE-S.EXE
NCC.EXE
NCD.EXE
NDD.EXE
NORTON.CMD
NORTON.EXE
NORTON.OVL
NORTON.ZIP
NU.HLP
NU.INI
PCSHADOW.SYS
READ.ME
SFORMAT.EXE
SPEEDISK.EXE
SYSINFO.EXE
TROUBLE.HLP
UNERASE.EXE
UNFORMAT.EXE
WIPEINFO.EXE

I installed Norton for windows because it was Norton - it caused no
end of problems, and I really worked with it.

Installed it on Win98 (I used installrite
http://www.epsilonsquared.com/) to view the installation - the number
of registry entries added was obscene. still no end of the problems it
caused so I gave it up for good.
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