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Lookout <> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:09:14 -0800, "alan" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Lookout" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> On 05 Feb 2009 20:31:46 GMT, thanatoid <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> moox7 <> wrote in
>>>> news:217b56f6-8e5e-4e05-90ae-
>>>> oups.com:
>>>>
>>>>> I have my desktop icons align to grid and set up in a
>>>>> particular order and positions on the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite often after a reboot or even just closing the screen
>>>>> and reopening it they will all default back to the left
>>>>> hand side of the screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no arrarnt reason for this happening, sometimes it
>>>>> does sometimes it doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a Dell D620 running XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know why this happens or have a foolproof way of
>>>>> keeping the icons where i set them out?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Standard Windows behavior. After asking all over for about 10
>>>> years, a genius in another group told me what apparantly no one
>>>> else has figured out (or at least will not tell): the icon
>>>> positions are storred in the regitsry, in the first "stream".
>>>> But that's purely anecdotal, and registry propbelsm are also
>>>> standard Windows behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Get the program from www.iconsaver.com and you problems are
>>>> over. I haev tried several others and they are overkill in
>>>> various ways, especially the oft-recommended "winTidy" (I
>>>> /think/ that's what it's called).
>>>
>>> I don't have any icons on the desk top other than projects I'm
>>> working on and I have no idea why you do.
>>
>> Something wrong with having icons on the desktop?
>
> I think it's pretty stupid to have the access to your programs behind
> what you're working on.

Only drones do what you're suggesting.

I for example will either do what Alan might do which is to 'show desktop'
but I use my machine to access those programs and/or files using MSVDM; in
addition I use this laptop from which I'm now posting with a monitor
strapped to its arse thereby using multi-screen/multi-desktop - that is what
one might call true multi-tasking/skilled.

Oh, and my 'mouse click' count although I use a touchpad, is way, way, way,
less than yours, so I am in effect far more efficient in what I do and how I
do it.

Care to reconsider your 'methodology'? Now don't get testy with me, just
think before you respond.

--
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties,
nations, and epochs it is the rule. Nietzsche

"Lookout" <> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:28:06 -0800, "alan" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lookout" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:59:03 -0800, "alan" <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lookout" <> wrote in message
>>>>news: m...
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:09:14 -0800, "alan" <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Lookout" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:b9kmo4pr4q0f8s4ireg2g5s7b0fd2du39m@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> On 05 Feb 2009 20:31:46 GMT, thanatoid <>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>moox7 <> wrote in
>>>>>>>>news:217b56f6-8e5e-4e05-90ae-
>>>>>>>>oups.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have my desktop icons align to grid and set up in a
>>>>>>>>> particular order and positions on the desktop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quite often after a reboot or even just closing the screen
>>>>>>>>> and reopening it they will all default back to the left
>>>>>>>>> hand side of the screen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no arrarnt reason for this happening, sometimes it
>>>>>>>>> does sometimes it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's a Dell D620 running XP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone know why this happens or have a foolproof way of
>>>>>>>>> keeping the icons where i set them out?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Standard Windows behavior. After asking all over for about 10
>>>>>>>>years, a genius in another group told me what apparantly no one
>>>>>>>>else has figured out (or at least will not tell): the icon
>>>>>>>>positions are storred in the regitsry, in the first "stream".
>>>>>>>>But that's purely anecdotal, and registry propbelsm are also
>>>>>>>>standard Windows behavior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get the program from www.iconsaver.com and you problems are
>>>>>>>>over. I haev tried several others and they are overkill in
>>>>>>>>various ways, especially the oft-recommended "winTidy" (I
>>>>>>>>/think/ that's what it's called).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have any icons on the desk top other than projects I'm
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> on and I have no idea why you do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Something wrong with having icons on the desktop?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's pretty stupid to have the access to your programs behind
>>>>> what you're working on.
>>>>
>>>>Well, let's see --- if I have to access another program "behind" what
>>>>I'm
>>>>working on, I just click the "Show Desktop" icon on the taskbar, then
>>>>click
>>>>the program I want.
>>>>
>>>>You, on the other hand, probably click the "Start" button,
>>>
>>> And you're wrong from this point on
>>>
>>>>select "Programs", then select a category of programs, then (finally)
>>>>select the
>>>>program you want. Even if you were lucky and the program you wanted was
>>>>one
>>>>frequently used and showed up in the mini-menu after clicking the start
>>>>button, you still need to click twice to get what you want.
>>>>
>>>>So, explain to me, what's so "stupid" about the way I do it?
>>>
>>> Care to try again?
>>
>>Nope, really not up to guessing what you do that's so superior to my
>>method.
>>If you care to explain it, fine, if not, that's fine too.
>
> Sure. At the top of the Start Menu I have 3 Folders containing grouped
> programs: Communications (email\newsgroup\chat), Graphics (graphic
> views and editors), and Utilities, a catch-all for others. All I have
> to do is move my cursor over the correct Folder and all the programs
> in the file open up..then I click on the program I need.
> http://s580.photobucket.com/albums/s...creenshot2.jpg
> I like to see my wife's picture on my desk top and not a bunch of
> icons.
>
> My wife does the same at work and the IS department now does this on
> many of the computers so they can find programs easier. I figured this
> out about a week after Win95 came out.

OK, your method: click Start, moouse-over to correct folder, mouse-over to
program desired, click program.
My method: click Show Desktop, mouse-over to program desired, click program.
I still fail to see why my method is "stupid" and yours (with one extra
action) is not.
You said that "... it's pretty stupid to have the access to your programs
behind what you're working on." Your access to programs appears to be
further limited by the necessity of an extra step.
Now, if you'd just said "I do it another way, but that's because I like to
have an unimpeded view of the pic on my desktop", *that* I can understand,
but I can't understand why it's "stupid" not to share your particular giant
desktop photo preferences . . . am I missing something?

"alan" <> wrote in
news:4X4jl.10013$:

> am I
> missing something?

I /know/ I'll regret this, but you all appear to be "missing"
the existence of unusually useful functionality of Alt/Tab and
Win/M.


--
"Who knows what the OP is talking about?"
(about thanatoid)

"Lookout" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:52:15 -0800, "alan" <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lookout" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:28:06 -0800, "alan" <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lookout" <> wrote in message
>>>>news: m...
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:59:03 -0800, "alan" <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Lookout" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:9ntmo4pg7a371epe21mugmk33c94luld1j@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:09:14 -0800, "alan" <>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Lookout" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:b9kmo4pr4q0f8s4ireg2g5s7b0fd2du39m@4a x.com...
>>>>>>>>> On 05 Feb 2009 20:31:46 GMT, thanatoid <>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>moox7 <> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>news:217b56f6-8e5e-4e05-90ae-
>>>>>>>>>>oups.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have my desktop icons align to grid and set up in a
>>>>>>>>>>> particular order and positions on the desktop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Quite often after a reboot or even just closing the screen
>>>>>>>>>>> and reopening it they will all default back to the left
>>>>>>>>>>> hand side of the screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no arrarnt reason for this happening, sometimes it
>>>>>>>>>>> does sometimes it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a Dell D620 running XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone know why this happens or have a foolproof way of
>>>>>>>>>>> keeping the icons where i set them out?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Standard Windows behavior. After asking all over for about 10
>>>>>>>>>>years, a genius in another group told me what apparantly no one
>>>>>>>>>>else has figured out (or at least will not tell): the icon
>>>>>>>>>>positions are storred in the regitsry, in the first "stream".
>>>>>>>>>>But that's purely anecdotal, and registry propbelsm are also
>>>>>>>>>>standard Windows behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Get the program from www.iconsaver.com and you problems are
>>>>>>>>>>over. I haev tried several others and they are overkill in
>>>>>>>>>>various ways, especially the oft-recommended "winTidy" (I
>>>>>>>>>>/think/ that's what it's called).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't have any icons on the desk top other than projects I'm
>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>> on and I have no idea why you do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Something wrong with having icons on the desktop?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's pretty stupid to have the access to your programs
>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>> what you're working on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, let's see --- if I have to access another program "behind" what
>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>working on, I just click the "Show Desktop" icon on the taskbar, then
>>>>>>click
>>>>>>the program I want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You, on the other hand, probably click the "Start" button,
>>>>>
>>>>> And you're wrong from this point on
>>>>>
>>>>>>select "Programs", then select a category of programs, then (finally)
>>>>>>select the
>>>>>>program you want. Even if you were lucky and the program you wanted
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>one
>>>>>>frequently used and showed up in the mini-menu after clicking the
>>>>>>start
>>>>>>button, you still need to click twice to get what you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, explain to me, what's so "stupid" about the way I do it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Care to try again?
>>>>
>>>>Nope, really not up to guessing what you do that's so superior to my
>>>>method.
>>>>If you care to explain it, fine, if not, that's fine too.
>>>
>>> Sure. At the top of the Start Menu I have 3 Folders containing grouped
>>> programs: Communications (email\newsgroup\chat), Graphics (graphic
>>> views and editors), and Utilities, a catch-all for others. All I have
>>> to do is move my cursor over the correct Folder and all the programs
>>> in the file open up..then I click on the program I need.
>>> http://s580.photobucket.com/albums/s...creenshot2.jpg
>>> I like to see my wife's picture on my desk top and not a bunch of
>>> icons.
>>>
>>> My wife does the same at work and the IS department now does this on
>>> many of the computers so they can find programs easier. I figured this
>>> out about a week after Win95 came out.
>>
>>OK, your method: click Start, moouse-over to correct folder, mouse-over to
>>program desired, click program.
>>My method: click Show Desktop, mouse-over to program desired, click
>>program.
>>I still fail to see why my method is "stupid" and yours (with one extra
>>action) is not.
>>You said that "... it's pretty stupid to have the access to your programs
>>behind what you're working on." Your access to programs appears to be
>>further limited by the necessity of an extra step.
>>Now, if you'd just said "I do it another way, but that's because I like to
>>have an unimpeded view of the pic on my desktop", *that* I can understand,
>>but I can't understand why it's "stupid" not to share your particular
>>giant
>>desktop photo preferences . . . am I missing something?
>
> You have what...30+ icons strewn all over your desk? Mine are all
> grouped by type and easily located.

Good guess --- I just counted 28 of them. I would not, however, describe
them as "strewn all over"; rather, they are logically arranged and, being
grouped by type, are also easily located.

It appears that I'm not missing anything and that it's as I originally
suspected --- you have an attachment to a particular method based on your
very subjective sense of esthetics rather than any logical considerations of
efficiency.

I quite understand your view of your desktop as a photo display area rather
than as a work area, and I understand as well your willingness to
incorporate an extra step toward accessing your programs in order to
preserve it as such, but I do object to you calling my method "stupid"
because I don't share your sense of esthetics.