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Zach wrote:

> I answered the guy's question.

No, you didn't. You didn't even give a wrong answer, though your posting
would have been a wrong answer to virtually any question, if it had
addressed a question.

Thank you for following my advice of continuing the use of clueslessly
forged From field as long as you remain clueless!

--
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

"Ben C" <> wrote in message
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> On 2009-01-30, Zach <> wrote:
>>
>> "Ben C" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> On 2009-01-30, Zach <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "JD" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>><< snipped >>
>>>>
>>>>>> I answered the guy's question.
>>>>>
>>>>> How, by supplying an indiscriminate list of character entity
>>>>> references?
>>>>> That's like giving somebody the entire alphabet when they ask which
>>>>> letters are vowels.
>>>>
>>>> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>>>
>>>> Oh. Oh. If a response isn't to your liking, then say so politely.
>>>>
>>>> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>>>
>>>> You wrote: "Is there a definitive list somewhere of which characters
>>>> need
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> encoded and which do not?"
>>>>
>>>> I would:
>>>> 1. transform the text into an array of characters
>>>> 2. see what the accii value is of each character
>>>
>>> It might not have an ASCII value (nor even an ISO-8859-1 value) which is
>>> the whole problem.
>>>
>>>> 3. see if the acii value < or > certain values
>>>
>>> If all the characters have ASCII values, then it is not necessary to
>>> check if they are outside any particular range-- the OP was using
>>> ISO-8859-1 of which ASCII is a subset.
>>>
>>>> 4. if so, see whether it is contained in the list I gave you
>>>> 5. if it is, substitute
>>>
>>> Then any character whose unicode value is outside the range that
>>> ISO-8859-1 can encode needs to be substituted. There's no other list to
>>> check them against, unless you are thinking of using e.g. "&nbsp;"
>>> instead
>>> of
>>> " ", which is more readable. In that case I suppose you get the
>>> list from http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/sgml/entities.html.
>>
>>
>>
>> "the OP was using ISO-8859-1 "
>> Re: http://htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/
>> Sorry, I don't understand why character for character converting wouldn't
>> work.
>
> It would.
>
> ASCII and ISO-8859-1 are both encodings. ASCII is a subset of
> ISO-8859-1. The OP's destination encoding is ISO-8859-1 and his source
> encoding is presumably a superset of ISO-8859-1 (perhaps UTF-.
>
> So we need to decode the source, character for character, and output it
> in the destination encoding, using &# thingies for any characters that
> aren't in ISO-8859-1.
>
> What we're not doing is decoding ASCII source and outputting it to some
> encoding that's a subset of ASCII (if there is such a thing). But that's
> what your method seemed to be describing.
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo
Great, this defines what needs to be done then.
The guy need two lists
(1.) an ISO-8859-1 list
(2.) a thingies list.

If the char isn't in (1.) then the char must be
converted, using (2.). No big deal then.

Zach.

"Jukka K. Korpela" <> wrote in message
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> Zach wrote:
>
>> I answered the guy's question.
>
> No, you didn't. You didn't even give a wrong answer, though your posting
> would have been a wrong answer to virtually any question, if it had
> addressed a question.
>
> Thank you for following my advice of continuing the use of clueslessly
> forged From field as long as you remain clueless!
>
> --
> Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/



Zach.

"Ben C" <> wrote in message
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> 2 isn't a list (assuming you mean &# things)-- those are just numbers.
> But you might convert some characters to HTML entities like &nbsp; and
> so you might have a list of those.

Aren't these your thingies?
http://www.avenue-it.com/html/asciialphabet.html

On 30 Jan 2009, "Zach" <> wrote:

>
> "JD" <> wrote in message
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>
> << snipped >>
>
>>> I answered the guy's question.
>>
>> How, by supplying an indiscriminate list of character entity
>> references? That's like giving somebody the entire alphabet when
>> they ask which letters are vowels.
>
> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>
> Oh. Oh. If a response isn't to your liking, then say so politely.

Dear Sir,

Your list sucked the big one.

With warm regards,
JD

--
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http://www.neredbojias.org/
http://www.neredbojias.net/
The road to Heaven is paved with bad intentions.

"Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
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> On 30 Jan 2009, "Zach" <> wrote:
>
>>
>> "JD" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>> << snipped >>
>>
>>>> I answered the guy's question.
>>>
>>> How, by supplying an indiscriminate list of character entity
>>> references? That's like giving somebody the entire alphabet when
>>> they ask which letters are vowels.
>>
>> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>
>> Oh. Oh. If a response isn't to your liking, then say so politely.
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Your list sucked the big one.
>
> With warm regards,
> JD
>
> --
> Neredbojias
> http://www.neredbojias.org/
> http://www.neredbojias.net/
> The road to Heaven is paved with bad intentions.
>> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lol!

Zach.

"Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
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> On 30 Jan 2009, "Zach" <> wrote:
>
>>
>> "JD" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>> << snipped >>
>>
>>>> I answered the guy's question.
>>>
>>> How, by supplying an indiscriminate list of character entity
>>> references? That's like giving somebody the entire alphabet when
>>> they ask which letters are vowels.
>>
>> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>
>> Oh. Oh. If a response isn't to your liking, then say so politely.
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Your list sucked the big one.
>
> With warm regards,
> JD
>
> --
> Neredbojias
> http://www.neredbojias.org/
> http://www.neredbojias.net/
> The road to Heaven is paved with bad intentions.
>> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lol!

Zach.

"Ben C" <> wrote in message
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> On 2009-01-30, Zach <> wrote:
>> "Ben C" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> 2 isn't a list (assuming you mean &# things)-- those are just numbers.
>>> But you might convert some characters to HTML entities like &nbsp; and
>>> so you might have a list of those.
>>
>> Aren't these your thingies?
>> http://www.avenue-it.com/html/asciialphabet.html
>
> Sort of, but ignore the first 128 entries of the table-- obviously
> there's no need to replace 'i' with i in any encoding anyone's
> likely to be using these days.
>
> In fact, if I have to replace 5 with 5 it's not clear how the
> browser's going to understand the '5' in "5".
>
> And I think it's likely to be a requirement of an HTML parser that it at
> least understand ASCII. Korpela would know but he has already stormed
> off in disgust.
>
> The second problem is that that table appears to list only the
> characters in Latin 1 (aka ISO-8859-1) although I haven't checked it
> thoroughly.
>
> Since the OP's destination encoding was ISO-8859-1, he wouldn't need to
> make subsitutions for any of the characters in that table.
>
> But he might need to make some for characters outside it-- for example
> if his text contains U+1401 Canadian Syllabics E, or U+2207 Nabla, or
> any of the many other characters that aren't in Latin 1.
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Thank you. I have learned a few things.
Zach.