Change my isp address

I have a laptop that I mainly use on different wifi connections at
coffee shops, but I also use it occassionallyon my t- mobile cell
phone (which can be used as a modem.
I need to change my isp address........
My questions are -
1. If I change the name of my computer under system info will that
change my isp address?
2.Is my isp address different when using different wifi connections?
3.How do I change my isp address with my t mobile phone as a modem??
Would changing my cell number change the isp?
4.Is my email account through yahoo registered under my isp address.?

completemassages@ymail.com

writes:

>I have a laptop that I mainly use on different wifi connections at
>coffee shops, but I also use it occassionallyon my t- mobile cell
>phone (which can be used as a modem.
>I need to change my isp address........
>My questions are -
>1. If I change the name of my computer under system info will that
>change my isp address?

What do you call "my isp address"? Your name of your computer will change
nothing external to the computer.
Tell us what problem you are trying to solve, not your guess at a solution.

>2.Is my isp address different when using different wifi connections?

Yes.

>3.How do I change my isp address with my t mobile phone as a modem??
>Would changing my cell number change the isp?

No

>4.Is my email account through yahoo registered under my isp address.?

We have no idea.

Unruh

"Tim Jackson" <> wrote in message
news: et...
> Unruh wrote:
>> writes:
>>
>>> I have a laptop that I mainly use on different wifi connections at
>>> coffee shops, but I also use it occassionallyon my t- mobile cell
>>> phone (which can be used as a modem.
>>> I need to change my isp address........
>>> My questions are -
>>> 1. If I change the name of my computer under system info will that
>>> change my isp address?
>>
>> What do you call "my isp address"? Your name of your computer will
>> change
>> nothing external to the computer. Tell us what problem you are trying
>> to solve, not your guess at a solution.
>>
>>> 2.Is my isp address different when using different wifi connections?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> 3.How do I change my isp address with my t mobile phone as a modem??
>>> Would changing my cell number change the isp?
>>
>> No
>>
>>> 4.Is my email account through yahoo registered under my isp
>>> address.?
>>
>> We have no idea.
>>
>
> I presume you mean your IP (internet protocol) address.
> ISP stands for Internet Service Provider.
> Every packet you send and receive over the internet contains source
> and destination IP addresses and port numbers, which may be recorded
> by a web server you visit, and should be recorded by your ISP.
>
> No, in the majority of cases your IP address is assigned by the ISP
> when you connect, and represents your electrical location on the
> network, not your computer. With a fixed line account you may have a
> fixed personal IP address, or one may be dynamically allocated from a
> pool whenever you log on, but it will remain fixed for the session,
> and you can bet your @ that the ISP (in this case T-Mobile) keeps a
> record of which user account had which address at any given time. I'm
> pretty sure that's part of the data they are legally required to keep,
> under European law anyway, may be different in the US.
>
> With public WiFi I think that usually goes through a sub-net using
> Network Address Translation (NAT), which effectively means all the
> customers appear to have the same IP, although different (dynamically
> allocated) port numbers. There's no way a web server could trace
> requests directly back to your computer or home address, only to the
> café, but the café could have (should have?) logged the allocated port
> number against your computer's (or WiFi adaptor's) unique MAC
> identifier and any account information they have for you.
>
> As your IP address is not a constant there is no way it can be
> registered against your Yahoo account.
>
> As for changing your T-mobile IP, that is between you and T-mobile. It
> may well be that you get a different one every time you call. If they
> have allocated you a "static IP" then it would be attached to your
> account you'd have to ask them to change it, or open another account
> with another phone. But they will still be able to trace it back to
> you e.g. through the credit card you used to buy the phone.
>
> If you are using Windows XP, then you can find out your current IP
> address at System Information (in Accessories / System Tools),
> selecting "Internet settings, Internet Explorer, Connectivity. Scroll
> down to "Use server assigned IP address" (e.g. Yes) and "IP Address"
> (e.g. 192.168.16.10); and answer your own question. NAT subnet
> addresses begin with 192.168 or 172.(16-31) or 10.
>
> If you are trying to evade the long arm of the law, then you need to
> keep abreast of developments, as governments are very keen on
> developing these monitoring techniques, under the pretext of chasing
> terrorists.
>
>
> Tim Jackson


You are obviously knowledgeable about such things, Tim.

Not meaning to hijack this thread, but ........ would you take a look at
the posts in this thread and give me a view Re: Slip Stream Test 17
January 2009 16:34GMT to be found here:
microsoft.public.security.homeusers,microsoft.publ ic.security.virus

You say "If you lift the covers off the post properties which is shown
then you see what is underneath"

I'd be most grateful if you (or anyone else) would kindly explain what
that means. TIA

John D

My reply below

"Tim Jackson" <> wrote in message
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> John D wrote:
>>
>> You are obviously knowledgeable about such things, Tim.
>>
>> Not meaning to hijack this thread, but ........ would you take a look
>> at the posts in this thread and give me a view Re: Slip Stream Test
>> 17 January 2009 16:34GMT to be found here:
>> microsoft.public.security.homeusers,microsoft.publ ic.security.virus
>>
>> You say "If you lift the covers off the post properties which is
>> shown
>> then you see what is underneath"
>>
>> I'd be most grateful if you (or anyone else) would kindly explain
>> what
>> that means. TIA
>>
>>
>>
> He's talking about looking at the headers. The easiest way to do that
> is to use whatever method your browser has to present the message
> source in plain text. Then you see the message headers, and in your
> case (or at least -BD-'s case, you aren't him of course) there is a
> consistent header "NNTP Posting Host 92.21.55.140", which is Carphone
> Warehouse Broadband Services in Manchester, for what it is worth. It
> shows you are likely posting from a mobile. Not all ISP's include
> this line.
>
> It doesn't identify you, but Carphone Warehouse will have a record of
> the message IDs and the account that sent them, which government
> authorised investigators can inspect. I dare say a suitably
> resourceful private investigator could gain access by lying a bit or
> bribing an official.
>
> As for explaining what the poster means, ask a psychologist, not me.
>
>
> Tim

Thank you for your reply, Tim

The Header in question is the one from the post in the
'microsoft.public.test.here' group from Marylin & Bob. I'll reproduce
what I see here:-

From: "Marilyn &. Bob" <>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.test.here
Subject: Re: Test 5
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:20:33 -0000
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
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Message-ID: <gkr172$7sm$>
References: <>
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X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to with
full headers
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:20:18 +0000 (UTC)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18v0deJWsko0bAX3EoVQPqD3c7dApbGcHs=
Cancel-Lock: sha1:Cv6vdw37TUBVu3fUhOVotPQQ6V8=
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfe ed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!news.motz arella.org!not-for-mail
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.test.here:11937

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As far as I can see, there is *NO* IP address given away. Can you see
one?

Mr Foldes says "If you lift the covers off the post properties which is
shown then you see what is underneath". Do you have any idea what he
means?

I notice that BoaterDave has raised this very topic today in
'microsoft.public.security.homeusers'. Did you notice that post a few
days ago when he placed a post he (BD) made some 3 (three!) years ago

This was it:-

PS Why, oh why, did you not answer my questions 3 years ago?

(You say below ........ hidden for ...... ? autonomy, perhaps?)


"Peter Foldes" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> From 2005 month/guess day/middle of week
>
> Hello xxxxxxx. (hidden for atanomy)
>
> To begin, I would like to thank you for your support - So Thanks
> Mate!
>
> You aren't quite on target though! Whilst serving in HMS Ark Royal
> during the early 1970's, before our visits to Fort Lauderdale and
> Jacksonville in the States, and to Sydney in Australia, I recall all
> Officers and Men being cautioned - that, just because the population
> of these countries spoke the same language, they were actually very
> different from us Brits.
>
> How true that was then and, from the attitude of many here, nothing
> much has changed.
>
> I'll ask you (all!) one question. "Who, exactly, is Peter Foldes?"
>
> Has anyone met him? Is he a US citizen? Was he born there? Are his
> parents American?
> Whereabouts does he live? Does he have a family? Is he old or young?
> How is he able to answer just about every question posed on a
> newsgroup? Is he a qualified software engineer? Does he sleep? Is
> there more than one of him ....... ?
>
> I seek only to find out the truth. Perhaps if more people had asked
> more questions, the dreadful events of 9/11 may never have happened.
>
> Perhaps the first respondent to reply to this question should be
> "Peter".
>
> Dave
>
*****************************

Cheers,

--
John

John D

"Tim Jackson" <> wrote in message
news: et...
> John D wrote:
>>
>> You are obviously knowledgeable about such things, Tim.
>>
>> Not meaning to hijack this thread, but ........ would you take a look
>> at the posts in this thread and give me a view Re: Slip Stream Test
>> 17 January 2009 16:34GMT to be found here:
>> microsoft.public.security.homeusers,microsoft.publ ic.security.virus
>>
>> You say "If you lift the covers off the post properties which is
>> shown
>> then you see what is underneath"
>>
>> I'd be most grateful if you (or anyone else) would kindly explain
>> what
>> that means. TIA
>>
>>
>>
> He's talking about looking at the headers. The easiest way to do that
> is to use whatever method your browser has to present the message
> source in plain text. Then you see the message headers, and in your
> case (or at least -BD-'s case, you aren't him of course) there is a
> consistent header "NNTP Posting Host 92.21.55.140", which is Carphone
> Warehouse Broadband Services in Manchester, for what it is worth. It
> shows you are likely posting from a mobile. Not all ISP's include
> this line.
>
> It doesn't identify you, but Carphone Warehouse will have a record of
> the message IDs and the account that sent them, which government
> authorised investigators can inspect. I dare say a suitably
> resourceful private investigator could gain access by lying a bit or
> bribing an official.
>
> As for explaining what the poster means, ask a psychologist, not me.
>
>
> Tim

Some folk look deeper than others, Tim

For example, see this thread (if you have time to spare!)
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.homeusers/browse_thread/thread/2cb1c1d00fd941dc/3d6957dd091e3986?lnk=gst&q=I+think+I've+found+a+vi rus....+%2BBoaterDave#

--
John

John D

Guy Macon wrote:
> John D wrote:
>
> [SNIP]
>
> Why are you crossposting to microsoft.public.test.here when the
> post you are replying to was posted to alt.computer.security?
>

Just a note to apologise for not responding to your query, Guy.

The test group to which you refer is my very own private newsgroup (!)
where I can (and do) correspond with Peter Foldes and Andrew Taylor
(both inmates of Annexcafe User2User newsgroups) - that's why I post to
both groups.

In case of doubt, I started posting as John D(oe) when first coming to
the alt.computer.security group.

Dave
--
~BD~, BoaterDave, Imbeady2 - and similar!

~BD~

I've just been here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY79KbCptTo

Quite a change from Cornwall, that's for sure!

~BD~