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On 13 May 2006 15:54:10 -0700
"Sean Cleary" <> wrote:

> I will make the changes: First 255.255.0.0 later maybe NetBeui. Thank you for
> the detailed instructions on how to do this. Actually all 3 computers have
> USB ports, and I have fastlynx on the two 98 machines. Should I change the
> '98 machines to 255.255.0.0 from 255.255.255.0? or should I just assign
> addresses that are sequential in the last hex-like digit?
>
Your XP machine has address 192.168.0.x subnet 25.25.255.0, so it will only
recognise machines with addresses between 192.168.0.1 thru 192.168.0.255. Your
win98 machines have addresses 192.168.1.x, so will not be recognised. You can
change the subnet settings to 255.255.0.0, so the 0\1 numeration isn't a
problem, or maybe easier to just change the laptop to 192.168.1.x

Don't worry about NetBEUI or not NetBEUI until you've sorted out the above and
you can get pings working in both directions. You are pinging using the IP
addresses I presume? Unless you get responses to pings you can't be sure the
problem isn't a faulty network card on the laptop. But as I said before,
firewalls can stop ping traffic, so you have to ensure that isn't the problem
too.

98 machines have addresses of 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 and mutually
recognize each other. Laptop is changed to 192.168.1.4. I now, thanks
to the good advice I got here, have mutual pings. The firewall is
disabled. The laptop name has been shortened to "Sean Laptop". I am
still working on some of the other suggestions given.

Sean

Did it! and thank you for your help!

Keys:
255.255.0.0 on every machine did help
Called my brother and we:
eliminated dial up adapter (driver and tcp/ip) stuff from computer that
was not connected to internet.
found all *host.sam files and added the gateway numbers and names for
each machine
Changed all machine names to a single word.

got a couple of batch files going:
rem this computer is fiona
type id.txt > p.txt
ping 192.168.1.4 /n 2 >> p.txt
ping 192.168.1.2 /n 2 >> p.txt
ping 192.168.1.1 /n 2 >> p.txt
type p.txt | more

where id.txt is
this computer is fiona.

went through the checkoff lists of the network help system (not all
that useful).

Sean

Sean Cleary wrote:
> Did it! and thank you for your help!
>
> Keys:
> 255.255.0.0 on every machine did help
> Called my brother and we:
> eliminated dial up adapter (driver and tcp/ip) stuff from computer that
> was not connected to internet.
> found all *host.sam files and added the gateway numbers and names for
> each machine
> Changed all machine names to a single word.
>
> got a couple of batch files going:
> rem this computer is fiona
> type id.txt > p.txt
> ping 192.168.1.4 /n 2 >> p.txt
> ping 192.168.1.2 /n 2 >> p.txt
> ping 192.168.1.1 /n 2 >> p.txt
> type p.txt | more
>
> where id.txt is
> this computer is fiona.
>
> went through the checkoff lists of the network help system (not all
> that useful).
>
> Sean
>
Well Done

Im having a newtworking problem & like you have only done half the A+ ,
Networking aint my strongest suit.

I'll try and explain as best as i can and hope that some of the guys on
here , can help.I have tried everything I can thing off. I got a little
further but still theres one little part of the jigsaw missing.

Is it safe to use just the routers firewall ?

I have 3 pc's networked together pc 1(main/host pc is connected to a
Linksys Befsx41 cable/dsl firewall / router) and mortorola SB5100
surfboard cable modem, .theres also a shared printer connected to pc 1.

pc's 1 & 2 run win xp home (both upraded to latest sp + updates)
pc 3 has win xp proffesional.
the workgroup name is the same for all 3
and i use single word computer names.


the latest scenario is that all 3 can go on the net , all 3 can use the
shared printer , all pc's see each other, pc's 2,3 can swap files beteen
each other no problem.all 3 ping each other ok
and tracert works.

but when either pc 2 or 3 try and access pc 1 , the following error
appears \\pc1\shareddocs is not accessible,you might not have permission
to use this network resource.contact the adminstrator of the server to
find out if you have access permissions.
Not enough server storage space is available to process this command.


However pc 1 sees pc'2 & 3's shares and can even put files in to them
and these show on 2 & 3.

I think theres a sofware setting wrong some where but I just cant find it.

apart from the router firewall , I turned all other firewalls off
thinking it was that.
sometimes I cant even access pc 1' s network share the same message
ap[pears.

Has anyone got any ideas.


I have tried , ping , ipconfig , tracert file & print sharing is enabled
on all pc's , even tried sharing seperate folders on pc 1's drive
to no avail.

would appreciate any help

Rascal

On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:19:35 GMT
Scotech <> wrote:
<snip>
>
> Im having a newtworking problem & like you have only done half the A
> + , Networking aint my strongest suit.
>
> I'll try and explain as best as i can and hope that some of the guys
> on here , can help.I have tried everything I can thing off. I got a
> little further but still theres one little part of the jigsaw missing.
>
> Is it safe to use just the routers firewall ?
>
> I have 3 pc's networked together pc 1(main/host pc is connected to a
> Linksys Befsx41 cable/dsl firewall / router) and mortorola SB5100
> surfboard cable modem, .theres also a shared printer connected to pc
> 1.
>
> pc's 1 & 2 run win xp home (both upraded to latest sp + updates)
> pc 3 has win xp proffesional.
> the workgroup name is the same for all 3
> and i use single word computer names.
>
>
> the latest scenario is that all 3 can go on the net , all 3 can use
> the shared printer , all pc's see each other, pc's 2,3 can swap files
> beteen each other no problem.all 3 ping each other ok
> and tracert works.
>
> but when either pc 2 or 3 try and access pc 1 , the following error
> appears \\pc1\shareddocs is not accessible,you might not have
> permission to use this network resource.contact the adminstrator of
> the server to find out if you have access permissions.
> Not enough server storage space is available to process this command.
>
>
> However pc 1 sees pc'2 & 3's shares and can even put files in to them
> and these show on 2 & 3.
>
> I think theres a sofware setting wrong some where but I just cant
> find it.
>
> apart from the router firewall , I turned all other firewalls off
> thinking it was that.
> sometimes I cant even access pc 1' s network share the same message
> ap[pears.
>
> Has anyone got any ideas.
>
>
> I have tried , ping , ipconfig , tracert file & print sharing is
> enabled on all pc's , even tried sharing seperate folders on pc 1's
> drive to no avail.
>
> would appreciate any help
>
> Rascal
>

Try this:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308007>

Particularly the 'Troubleshooting file and printer sharing' section.

HTH

Fred the Ferret wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:19:35 GMT
> Scotech <> wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>Im having a newtworking problem & like you have only done half the A
>>+ , Networking aint my strongest suit.
>>
>>I'll try and explain as best as i can and hope that some of the guys
>>on here , can help.I have tried everything I can thing off. I got a
>>little further but still theres one little part of the jigsaw missing.
>>
>>Is it safe to use just the routers firewall ?
>>
>>I have 3 pc's networked together pc 1(main/host pc is connected to a
>>Linksys Befsx41 cable/dsl firewall / router) and mortorola SB5100
>>surfboard cable modem, .theres also a shared printer connected to pc
>>1.
>>
>>pc's 1 & 2 run win xp home (both upraded to latest sp + updates)
>>pc 3 has win xp proffesional.
>>the workgroup name is the same for all 3
>>and i use single word computer names.
>>
>>
>>the latest scenario is that all 3 can go on the net , all 3 can use
>>the shared printer , all pc's see each other, pc's 2,3 can swap files
>>beteen each other no problem.all 3 ping each other ok
>>and tracert works.
>>
>>but when either pc 2 or 3 try and access pc 1 , the following error
>>appears \\pc1\shareddocs is not accessible,you might not have
>>permission to use this network resource.contact the adminstrator of
>>the server to find out if you have access permissions.
>>Not enough server storage space is available to process this command.
>>
>>
>>However pc 1 sees pc'2 & 3's shares and can even put files in to them
>>and these show on 2 & 3.
>>
>>I think theres a sofware setting wrong some where but I just cant
>>find it.
>>
>>apart from the router firewall , I turned all other firewalls off
>>thinking it was that.
>>sometimes I cant even access pc 1' s network share the same message
>>ap[pears.
>>
>>Has anyone got any ideas.
>>
>>
>>I have tried , ping , ipconfig , tracert file & print sharing is
>>enabled on all pc's , even tried sharing seperate folders on pc 1's
>>drive to no avail.
>>
>>would appreciate any help
>>
>>Rascal
>>
>
>
> Try this:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308007>
>
> Particularly the 'Troubleshooting file and printer sharing' section.
>
> HTH
>


Many thanks for the link Fred

I have been trawling through support , but as yet , still not
cracked it.

I did find out (as I suspected)

that its pc 1 that has the problem via net user guest
active:yes and checking the nw setup log

it said "old computer name is same as new name - not setting". So
I tried a new setup with a brand new name , but I get the same error.

I can search and connect to the other pc s

shares via run / explorer

but I cant access pc 1 locallly or via pc's 1
or 2.

all the addys seem ok, I can ping every pc to
every other pc and the print share is

fine . Its so frustrating & hard to find
that last piece of this puzzler

file & print sharing are on and

the share folder with network is on too

thanks again , I'll keep lookn

Rascal

I really posted this problem in 4 groups, not wanting to cross post.
Some have some variations, but all contain the words "winxp to join
win98 network" in the title. Some of these alternates got good advice,
so go find them.

Sean