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I have become disheartened over the minimum job prospects available to a
certified technicnan in todays market. Every employer I have seen only
wanted to pay somewhere between $9-15 per hour--which isn't bad money--BUT
they want you to have an MCSE, and a BS degree in computer science and 5+
years experience before they will offer you the job. I make more than $9
an hour now working in retail, and it simply sickens me at the current state
of the job market and the current attitude of employers....

Anyone else have this problem?

me wrote:
> I have become disheartened over the minimum job prospects available to a
> certified technicnan in todays market. Every employer I have seen only
> wanted to pay somewhere between $9-15 per hour--which isn't bad money--BUT
> they want you to have an MCSE, and a BS degree in computer science and 5+
> years experience before they will offer you the job. I make more than $9
> an hour now working in retail, and it simply sickens me at the current state
> of the job market and the current attitude of employers....
>
> Anyone else have this problem?
>
>

I was making nearly $20/hour (no certifications, no background) as an admin
at a positively awful company. Each day was torture. The IT director was a
flaming moron. Even though I didn't have a job lined up, I quit anyway.

I'm in the process of getting 5 certs from A+ (which, in and by itself, is
useless but it's a starting point) to CCNA.

If you think that getting a job as a tech is bad, try getting a job as a
programmer (can you say "out-sourceable"?)

John wrote:
> I was making nearly $20/hour (no certifications, no background) as an
> admin at a positively awful company. Each day was torture. The IT
> director was a flaming moron. Even though I didn't have a job lined up,
> I quit anyway.
>
> I'm in the process of getting 5 certs from A+ (which, in and by itself,
> is useless but it's a starting point) to CCNA.
>
> If you think that getting a job as a tech is bad, try getting a job as a
> programmer (can you say "out-sourceable"?)
John, Thankyou for reminding us. I used to be disheartened.

Christopher

I have been looking for about 2 mos. now. I've had one offer and that was
to fix printers on a assembly line for$12 an hr. I was a Service Manager at
a Harley-Davidson store making $60,000 a year. I quit to pursue an IT
career. I am having my head examined next week.
I'm A+ with 10yrs. telephony exp. w/ Nortel Networks if your hiring. My son
makes more money than I do now.
If you see me out in the yard, shoot me! Just Kidding!

I know how you feel, I deal with IT guys everyday that are complete idiots.
I'm amazed that some have a job as an administrator. I had one Friday that
I had to teach on how to install a print driver on their network. The sad
thing is that I'm not even an IT guy, what I know about networking is self
taught! I just install and repair Toshiba Copiers and Multifunction
printers, and I knew more about his network then he did! Really sad.


"Christopher Range" <> wrote in message
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> John wrote:
> > I was making nearly $20/hour (no certifications, no background) as an
> > admin at a positively awful company. Each day was torture. The IT
> > director was a flaming moron. Even though I didn't have a job lined up,
> > I quit anyway.
> >
> > I'm in the process of getting 5 certs from A+ (which, in and by itself,
> > is useless but it's a starting point) to CCNA.
> >
> > If you think that getting a job as a tech is bad, try getting a job as a
> > programmer (can you say "out-sourceable"?)
> John, Thankyou for reminding us. I used to be disheartened.
>
> Christopher
>



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"me" <> wrote in
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> I have become disheartened over the minimum job prospects
> available to a certified technician in todays market. Every
> employer I have seen only wanted to pay somewhere between $9-15
> per hour--which isn't bad money--BUT they want you to have an
> MCSE, and a BS degree in computer science and 5+ years experience
> before they will offer you the job. I make more than $9 an hour
> now working in retail, and it simply sickens me at the current
> state of the job market and the current attitude of employers....
>
> Anyone else have this problem?

It's a seller's market. I was apart of company that merged with
another company. After a while I had to bail, could not take it
anymore (benefit cuts, shaving of workforce, ridiculous working hours,
etc)! I was making 42000/year and now I make 38000/year. Actually,
with bonuses it will probably be close to 40000/year, but the new
employer is not much better then the old one! Now I'm again looking
for another job. Took 5 months just to get ONE call back for my last
search.

Well, anyways, in my new search I get a callback from a law firm.
Since I'm on probation with the new company I can't take off from work
(as explained in my cover letter). We agreed to meet at 7:30 AM in the
morning later in the week. The guy calls back the next day and says
"no can do". I try to arrange another time later in the day, but he
won't budge. "You work around me, not the other way around!". Of
course, I'm really not the one in the position of being flexible: he
is. Basically I have to pass on the interview because he's being a
pain in-the-neck.

Funny thing is I saw the job reposted in the paper last week...LOL...so
whoever he hired didn't work out.

Yes, the IT field is depressing.

SuperTech

I think many people have discovered that A+ alone is not very marketable.
That's why this newsgroup has declined from a very active forum to only a
few posts a day.

I feel very fortunate to have the job I have. I started with this company
in a completely different job and evolved into the IT guy. I got A+, Net+,
MCSA, and MCSE since then, but it hasn't gotten me even a raise that is more
than inflation. Now, with six years of IT experience under my belt, maybe
it's time to start looking again.

--
Carlos

"me" <> wrote in message
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> I have become disheartened over the minimum job prospects available to a
> certified technicnan in todays market. Every employer I have seen only
> wanted to pay somewhere between $9-15 per hour--which isn't bad money--BUT
> they want you to have an MCSE, and a BS degree in computer science and 5+
> years experience before they will offer you the job. I make more than
$9
> an hour now working in retail, and it simply sickens me at the current
state
> of the job market and the current attitude of employers....
>
> Anyone else have this problem?
>
>

me wrote:
> I have become disheartened over the minimum job prospects available to a
> certified technicnan in todays market. Every employer I have seen only
> wanted to pay somewhere between $9-15 per hour--which isn't bad money--BUT
> they want you to have an MCSE, and a BS degree in computer science and 5+
> years experience before they will offer you the job. I make more than $9
> an hour now working in retail, and it simply sickens me at the current state
> of the job market and the current attitude of employers....
>
> Anyone else have this problem?
>
>

Tough it out, or go change careers and find a trade you
like then, like a mechanic, or plumber then.

Nobody ever promised you a rose garden when you decided
to get into Computing;

Kathy wrote:
> me wrote:
>
>> I have become disheartened over the minimum job prospects available to a
>> certified technicnan in todays market. Every employer I have seen only
>> wanted to pay somewhere between $9-15 per hour--which isn't bad
>> money--BUT
>> they want you to have an MCSE, and a BS degree in computer science and 5+
>> years experience before they will offer you the job. I make more
>> than $9
>> an hour now working in retail, and it simply sickens me at the current
>> state
>> of the job market and the current attitude of employers....
>>
>> Anyone else have this problem?
>>
>>
>
> It WAS somewhat of a problem for me, but I do computer work on my own
> now. I'm my own boss and I like it that way.
>
> Hey I learned to suck it up because "you can't always get what you want"
> I'm not complaining about the job market, I love computer work!
I am thinking(uh oh) of, starting my own business, because of, the
behavior of the job market.

Christopher

Very eye-opening topic as I have just decided to create a stud
regimen for A+ to improve my marketability as I am still in th
market for an IT job since May when I got N+ certified. So far I onl
had one interview (this was even before I got N+ certified) with
well-known resort only 2 blocks away from me, the only reason I eve
got an interview was b/c my Doctor had another patient that wa
recruiting for a network technician and he put in a very good wor
for me and even pushed it to get me an interview. Well I DID and
nailed all the 'technical' questions the IT people (they were only
ppl) shot at me (which weren't too difficult, they were kind). When
finally got interviewed from the vice pres. I was interviewed a bi
more & told they'd start me on monday. Only to later find ou
that the actual pres had created a hiring freeze on every dep
(excellent timing ), after that I got an apology? from the
saying thier pres was anal or somethin

I wasn't too phased b/c I thought "easy come, easy go" and it woul
always be this simple to get interviewed an a job. Well, I a
learning otherwise to the point where I am starting to study fo
another certification :evil