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I'm looking at a job for laying network cable, and I'm looking for a
good source of tools for doing such a job, because it appears I have to
provide my own. The cable will be CAT5, and possibly fiber. I have a
CAT5 crimper, but that's about it. What about a punchdown tool?

Any advice/suggestions welcome.

Rainman
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"rainman" <> wrote in message
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> I'm looking at a job for laying network cable, and I'm looking for a
> good source of tools for doing such a job, because it appears I have to
> provide my own. The cable will be CAT5, and possibly fiber. I have a
> CAT5 crimper, but that's about it. What about a punchdown tool?
>
> Any advice/suggestions welcome.
>

Graybar http://tinyurl.com/d9xmo if you have them in your area, and believe
it or not Lowe's and Home Depot carries punch down tools among other common
network cabling tools.

If you are going to be doing fiber your employer should buy your tools and
train you too for that matter.
I know a local electrician sent all of his guys to school about 5 years ago
because he figured that was the next big thing. He's gone from having about
4 trucks to 8 or 9 at the one location here and town and I don't know how
many he has at his second location.
Graybar also has the fiber stuff if you just want to price it.

AG


"Rightard Whitey" <> wrote in message >> Graybar
http://tinyurl.com/d9xmo if you have them in your area, and believe
>> it or not Lowe's and Home Depot carries punch down tools among other
>> common network cabling tools.
> Ebay carries a variety of LAN tools under the IT or telecommunications
> heading. So does Home Depot. You will need a punch down tool, crimping
> tool, cable tester, a headlight LED for crawling through attacks and a
> fishing tool to grab cable.
>
> forget fiber optics. You need to go to schools to learn how to do it. Most
> of the fiber splicing and polishing equipment cost thousands of dollars.
>
> --
> A village in Texas has lost its idiot.

You will need two punchdowns, a type 110 and a type 66. you will also
need a cable tester. (big bucks). I wouldn't hire anybody that couldn't
test the cable after making it. You do know about the two types of CAT
5 connections don't yoou?

rainman wrote:

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> good source of tools for doing such a job, because it appears I have to
> provide my own. The cable will be CAT5, and possibly fiber. I have a
> CAT5 crimper, but that's about it. What about a punchdown tool?
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> Any advice/suggestions welcome.
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> Rainman
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Thank you to all who responded. You've all been very helpful.

to Glenn:
I know TIA standards for 568A ( w/g, g, w/o, b, w/b, o, w/br, br) and
568B (w/o, o, w/g, b, w/b, g, w/br, br), if that's what you're asking.

What I don't know is color coding and wiring for a 110 or 66 block. (In
fact, I'm a bit sketchy on them period... as I've never used one... and
I think I'm going to be expected to know how). From what I understand,
they are used as a sort of "patch panel", but with different connectors.
You use a "punchdown tool" to somehow attach the pairs to the panel, and
trim the excess wire. You then snap on some kind of termination, and you
can attach a cable to connect two sets of wires, or to connect the cable
to a separate device (like a patch panel) with a patch cable.

Rainman

Glenn wrote:
> You will need two punchdowns, a type 110 and a type 66. you will also
> need a cable tester. (big bucks). I wouldn't hire anybody that couldn't
> test the cable after making it. You do know about the two types of CAT
> 5 connections don't yoou?
>
> rainman wrote:
>
> I'm looking at a job for laying network cable, and I'm looking for a
> good source of tools for doing such a job, because it appears I have to
> provide my own. The cable will be CAT5, and possibly fiber. I have a
> CAT5 crimper, but that's about it. What about a punchdown tool?
>
> Any advice/suggestions welcome.
>
> Rainman
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"rainman" <> wrote in message
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> Thank you to all who responded. You've all been very helpful.
>
> to Glenn:
> I know TIA standards for 568A ( w/g, g, w/o, b, w/b, o, w/br, br) and
> 568B (w/o, o, w/g, b, w/b, g, w/br, br), if that's what you're asking.
>
> What I don't know is color coding and wiring for a 110 or 66 block. (In
> fact, I'm a bit sketchy on them period... as I've never used one... and
> I think I'm going to be expected to know how). From what I understand,
> they are used as a sort of "patch panel", but with different connectors.
> You use a "punchdown tool" to somehow attach the pairs to the panel, and
> trim the excess wire. You then snap on some kind of termination, and you
> can attach a cable to connect two sets of wires, or to connect the cable
> to a separate device (like a patch panel) with a patch cable.
>
> Rainman
>
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This is for the 110 block.

http://cableorganizer.com/phone-data...structions.htm

and the 66

http://cableorganizer.com/phone-data...structions.htm

and the color code

http://www.homephonewiring.com/clr-code.html

This is easy stuff once you get the gist of it, I say you'll have it down
within two weeks on the job.

Good Luck

"rainman" <> wrote in message
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> Thank you to all who responded. You've all been very helpful.
>
> to Glenn:
> I know TIA standards for 568A ( w/g, g, w/o, b, w/b, o, w/br, br) and
> 568B (w/o, o, w/g, b, w/b, g, w/br, br), if that's what you're asking.
>
> What I don't know is color coding and wiring for a 110 or 66 block. (In
> fact, I'm a bit sketchy on them period... as I've never used one... and
> I think I'm going to be expected to know how). From what I understand,
> they are used as a sort of "patch panel", but with different connectors.
> You use a "punchdown tool" to somehow attach the pairs to the panel, and
> trim the excess wire. You then snap on some kind of termination, and you
> can attach a cable to connect two sets of wires, or to connect the cable
> to a separate device (like a patch panel) with a patch cable.
>
> Rainman
>

The color codes are on the side of the punchdown block. I've never bothered
to memorize them. For me it's a why bother.

AG

"Glenn" <> wrote in message
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> You will need two punchdowns, a type 110 and a type 66. you will also
> need a cable tester. (big bucks). I wouldn't hire anybody that couldn't
> test the cable after making it. You do know about the two types of CAT 5
> connections don't yoou?
>
> rainman wrote:
>

My tester cost me $20. All it does is check continuity but it does check
the cable.
Any employer that wanted more would almost certainly not expect an
individual to buy a tool that can run more than $500-$600. I've used them
and they were always provided by my employer.

AG

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:23:06 GMT, "AG" <> wrote:

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>"rainman" <> wrote in message
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>> Thank you to all who responded. You've all been very helpful.
>>
>> to Glenn:
>> I know TIA standards for 568A ( w/g, g, w/o, b, w/b, o, w/br, br) and
>> 568B (w/o, o, w/g, b, w/b, g, w/br, br), if that's what you're asking.
>>
>> What I don't know is color coding and wiring for a 110 or 66 block. (In
>> fact, I'm a bit sketchy on them period... as I've never used one... and
>> I think I'm going to be expected to know how). From what I understand,
>> they are used as a sort of "patch panel", but with different connectors.
>> You use a "punchdown tool" to somehow attach the pairs to the panel, and
>> trim the excess wire. You then snap on some kind of termination, and you
>> can attach a cable to connect two sets of wires, or to connect the cable
>> to a separate device (like a patch panel) with a patch cable.
>>
>> Rainman
>>
>
>The color codes are on the side of the punchdown block. I've never bothered
>to memorize them. For me it's a why bother.

You and I have the same basic attitude about this. Several hours to
research something is one thing, but if information is readily and
quickly available, I reserve my remaining 7 brain cells for other
things.

Tom

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>AG
>

I have an MT-350 myself. Checking continuity is not ehough.


AG wrote:
> "Glenn" <> wrote in message
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>>You will need two punchdowns, a type 110 and a type 66. you will also
>>need a cable tester. (big bucks). I wouldn't hire anybody that couldn't
>>test the cable after making it. You do know about the two types of CAT 5
>>connections don't yoou?
>>
>>rainman wrote:
>>
>
>
> My tester cost me $20. All it does is check continuity but it does check
> the cable.
> Any employer that wanted more would almost certainly not expect an
> individual to buy a tool that can run more than $500-$600. I've used them
> and they were always provided by my employer.
>
> AG
>
>