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You have a clean hard drive? 96 megs of ram? 400 MHz processor?
Get more RAM. Go to 256 M. With 400 MHz and 256 Megs, Win2K will be
perfectly fine as your everday os. 98 will be for reference during yr. a+
studies And if you want to learn a+, put three partitions on the drive,
install win 98 on one, which would be the C drive, your smallest partition,
win 2k on the second, the D drive - make this partition big as it should
have most of your active progs on it - and leave the last partition for
data or future adventures.

And the folks who said you don't have to worry about mobo or chipset drivers
for W2K are almost certainly correct. The chance that W2K will not install
on that computer is less than 1 percent.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Morphme" <>
Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: BIOS HELP


> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
> or driver issues for that OS.
>
> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
>
> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
> I'll check with the electric company.
>
> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
>
> Pentium II
>
> Processor speed 400MHz
>
> Ram 96MB
> ==============

"Morphme" <> wrote in message
news:4115bb50$...
> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
> or driver issues for that OS.
>
> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
>
> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
> I'll check with the electric company.
>
> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
>
> Pentium II
>
> Processor speed 400MHz
>
> Ram 96MB
> ==============
> For this group's frequently asked questions, check out www.CertFAQ.com

On Aug 10, 2004 "MF" blathered:

> And if you want to learn a+, put three partitions on the drive,
> install win 98 on one, which would be the C drive, your smallest partition,
> win 2k on the second, the D drive - make this partition big as it should
> have most of your active progs on it - and leave the last partition for
> data or future adventures.

Just to add to that, be sure to leave that third partition FAT32 if you want
Win98 to be able to read it.

--
TechGeekPro - MCSA, A+, Net+, i-Net+
"Not only am I certified, I'm certifiable!"

On Aug 11, 2004 "Michael" blathered:

> I haven't tried this, but here's a driver to read NTFS from windows 98:
> http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/fr...tfswin98.shtml

Cool, I'll give it a "looksie".

--
TechGeekPro - MCSA, A+, Net+, i-Net+
"Not only am I certified, I'm certifiable!"

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:17:57 -0500, "MF"
<> wrote:

>You have a clean hard drive? 96 megs of ram? 400 MHz processor?
>Get more RAM. Go to 256 M.

There is a realistic chance that that motherboard, based on its age,
will only cache 128 M. That should be investigated first.

Tom

>With 400 MHz and 256 Megs, Win2K will be
>perfectly fine as your everday os. 98 will be for reference during yr. a+
>studies And if you want to learn a+, put three partitions on the drive,
>install win 98 on one, which would be the C drive, your smallest partition,
>win 2k on the second, the D drive - make this partition big as it should
>have most of your active progs on it - and leave the last partition for
>data or future adventures.
>
>And the folks who said you don't have to worry about mobo or chipset drivers
>for W2K are almost certainly correct. The chance that W2K will not install
>on that computer is less than 1 percent.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Morphme" <>
>Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
>Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 12:34 AM
>Subject: Re: BIOS HELP
>
>
>> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
>> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
>> or driver issues for that OS.
>>
>> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
>>
>> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
>> I'll check with the electric company.
>>
>> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
>>
>> Pentium II
>>
>> Processor speed 400MHz
>>
>> Ram 96MB
>> ==============
>
>"Morphme" <> wrote in message
>news:4115bb50$...
>> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
>> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
>> or driver issues for that OS.
>>
>> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
>>
>> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
>> I'll check with the electric company.
>>
>> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
>>
>> Pentium II
>>
>> Processor speed 400MHz
>>
>> Ram 96MB
>> ==============
>> For this group's frequently asked questions, check out www.CertFAQ.com
>

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:26:24 GMT, Michael <> wrote:

>TechGeekPro wrote:
>
>> On Aug 10, 2004 "MF" blathered:
>>
>>
>>>And if you want to learn a+, put three partitions on the drive,
>>>install win 98 on one, which would be the C drive, your smallest partition,
>>>win 2k on the second, the D drive - make this partition big as it should
>>>have most of your active progs on it - and leave the last partition for
>>>data or future adventures.
>>
>>
>> Just to add to that, be sure to leave that third partition FAT32 if you want
>> Win98 to be able to read it.
>>
>
>I haven't tried this, but here's a driver to read NTFS from windows 98:
>http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/fr...tfswin98.shtml

I tried it a few years back with 98 and NT4, and it worked fine. There
was also one for the reverse, since NT 4 didn't understand FAT32
either. There's also a pay for version that allows writing across
different formats as well, or there was anyway.

Tom

>
>I've also seen tools to read EXT2 (linux) and ODS (vms).
>
>michael

"Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:17:57 -0500, "MF"
> <> wrote:
>
> >You have a clean hard drive? 96 megs of ram? 400 MHz processor?
> >Get more RAM. Go to 256 M.
>
> There is a realistic chance that that motherboard, based on its age,
> will only cache 128 M. That should be investigated first.
>
> Tom

Cache what where? Whatever, lemme have it. I have a P4 from last year and
as far as I know it won't cache 128 megs of anything anywhere..... Wish it
would, it'd be a zippy little effer.

Mike


> >With 400 MHz and 256 Megs, Win2K will be
> >perfectly fine as your everday os. 98 will be for reference during yr.
a+
> >studies And if you want to learn a+, put three partitions on the
drive,
> >install win 98 on one, which would be the C drive, your smallest
partition,
> >win 2k on the second, the D drive - make this partition big as it should
> >have most of your active progs on it - and leave the last partition for
> >data or future adventures.
> >
> >And the folks who said you don't have to worry about mobo or chipset
drivers
> >for W2K are almost certainly correct. The chance that W2K will not
install
> >on that computer is less than 1 percent.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Morphme" <>
> >Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
> >Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 12:34 AM
> >Subject: Re: BIOS HELP
> >
> >
> >> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
> >> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
> >> or driver issues for that OS.
> >>
> >> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
> >>
> >> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
> >> I'll check with the electric company.
> >>
> >> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
> >>
> >> Pentium II
> >>
> >> Processor speed 400MHz
> >>
> >> Ram 96MB
> >> ==============
> >
> >"Morphme" <> wrote in message
> >news:4115bb50$...
> >> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
> >> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
> >> or driver issues for that OS.
> >>
> >> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
> >>
> >> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
> >> I'll check with the electric company.
> >>
> >> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
> >>
> >> Pentium II
> >>
> >> Processor speed 400MHz
> >>
> >> Ram 96MB
> >> ==============
> >> For this group's frequently asked questions, check out www.CertFAQ.com
> >
>

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:03:51 -0500, "MF"
<> wrote:

>
>"Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:17:57 -0500, "MF"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> >You have a clean hard drive? 96 megs of ram? 400 MHz processor?
>> >Get more RAM. Go to 256 M.
>>
>> There is a realistic chance that that motherboard, based on its age,
>> will only cache 128 M. That should be investigated first.
>>
>> Tom
>
>Cache what where? Whatever, lemme have it. I have a P4 from last year and
>as far as I know it won't cache 128 megs of anything anywhere..... Wish it
>would, it'd be a zippy little effer.
>
>Mike
>

Not quite sure what you are referring to but...when a P4 won't cache
128M??...what OS?

Tom

>
>> >With 400 MHz and 256 Megs, Win2K will be
>> >perfectly fine as your everday os. 98 will be for reference during yr.
>a+
>> >studies And if you want to learn a+, put three partitions on the
>drive,
>> >install win 98 on one, which would be the C drive, your smallest
>partition,
>> >win 2k on the second, the D drive - make this partition big as it should
>> >have most of your active progs on it - and leave the last partition for
>> >data or future adventures.
>> >
>> >And the folks who said you don't have to worry about mobo or chipset
>drivers
>> >for W2K are almost certainly correct. The chance that W2K will not
>install
>> >on that computer is less than 1 percent.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Morphme" <>
>> >Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
>> >Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 12:34 AM
>> >Subject: Re: BIOS HELP
>> >
>> >
>> >> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
>> >> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
>> >> or driver issues for that OS.
>> >>
>> >> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
>> >> I'll check with the electric company.
>> >>
>> >> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
>> >>
>> >> Pentium II
>> >>
>> >> Processor speed 400MHz
>> >>
>> >> Ram 96MB
>> >> ==============
>> >
>> >"Morphme" <> wrote in message
>> >news:4115bb50$...
>> >> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
>> >> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
>> >> or driver issues for that OS.
>> >>
>> >> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
>> >> I'll check with the electric company.
>> >>
>> >> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
>> >>
>> >> Pentium II
>> >>
>> >> Processor speed 400MHz
>> >>
>> >> Ram 96MB
>> >> ==============
>> >> For this group's frequently asked questions, check out www.CertFAQ.com
>> >
>>
>

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 01:14:41 GMT, "AT" <torgny@@direcway.com> wrote:

>Do the upgrade to get the experience of it. The worst that can happen is
>that you have to reinstall 98. I have installed Win200Pro/Server in
>Pentium1s as low as 166 mhz without any problems.
>
>AT


There ya go...

My favourite "McCloud" quote, and oft-repeated.

Tom

>
>"Morphme" <> wrote in message
>news:4115bb50$...
>> I did some research online and there are no drivers for Mobo if I did
>> the Win 2000 Pro upgrade. Intel does not give support for upgraded OS
>> or driver issues for that OS.
>>
>> So i guess that's out of the question I'll have to reinstall Win 98.
>>
>> Thanks eveyone for the BIOS flash help. That was very funny bonehead
>> I'll check with the electric company.
>>
>> The Intel Family Chipset SE 440 BX.
>>
>> Pentium II
>>
>> Processor speed 400MHz
>>
>> Ram 96MB
>> ==============
>> For this group's frequently asked questions, check out www.CertFAQ.com
>

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 21:27:55 GMT, Michael <> wrote:

>Tom MacIntyre wrote:
>
>>>Cache what where? Whatever, lemme have it. I have a P4 from last year and
>>>as far as I know it won't cache 128 megs of anything anywhere..... Wish it
>>>would, it'd be a zippy little effer.
>
>> Not quite sure what you are referring to but...when a P4 won't cache
>> 128M??...what OS?
>
>According to M-W, cache is short term memory, and I don't think RAM
>qualifies. But L1, L2, and L3 cache do, as well as other caches.
>
>"3 : a computer memory with very short access time used for storage of
>frequently used instructions or data -- called also cache memory"
>
>michael

???

Try how much memory can be cached by a particular motherboard/chipset?

Tom

"Michael" <> wrote in message
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> Tom MacIntyre wrote:
>
> >>Cache what where? Whatever, lemme have it. I have a P4 from last year
and
> >>as far as I know it won't cache 128 megs of anything anywhere..... Wish
it
> >>would, it'd be a zippy little effer.
>
> > Not quite sure what you are referring to but...when a P4 won't cache
> > 128M??...what OS?
>
> According to M-W, cache is short term memory, and I don't think RAM
> qualifies. But L1, L2, and L3 cache do, as well as other caches.
>
> "3 : a computer memory with very short access time used for storage of
> frequently used instructions or data -- called also cache memory"
>
> michael
Michael I think you are confusing on chip cache with something different. A
few years ago many motherboards would recognize more memory than they would
actually use. This is called cache memory. The limit on many of those
boards was 128 megs, which would have cost around $1,000 or so at the time.
It was, and can still be, a problem with older motherboards but I haven't
heard of any P3 or P4 boards that won't handle a gig or so of RAM.
One last note. The computers that were using that $1,000 RAM cost in the
neighborhood of $4-5,000 new and were in the 400 Mhz range as far as speed.
Those were the days when if we sold one computer a week we could keep the
store open.


AG
Most of the boards with this problem were P2 boards and some AMD socket 6
boards.
There I