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Well, my best tech is quitting- Friday will be his last day. He is
leaving the field- not enough money for his growing family.

He has applied to other shops all arond, and nobody around here is hiring-
and if they were, nobody pays well enough.

So, he is leaving the field- going into real estate surveying.

I finally got him up to a level where I can trust him to not only do the
job without supervision, but also to make autonomous decisions when I am
not there. I was depending on him being there in October so I can take a
leisurely vacation- my first leisurely vacation ever!

My other tech is not good enough to be left alone or run things when I am
not there- nor will he ever be good enough for that. But, I know what his
capabilities are and he does what I ask of him- for the most part.

So far, I cannot even get anyone to apply! I have been advertising the
position- even via the State Unemployment- not even a bite yet- and that
is without any salary even being listed.

So, that leaves me to do all the tech work, all the paperwork, and all the
other crap that comes with running a growing business.

Damn, this is going to suck in a big way!!!

What State is this job in?

Gary

Ghost wrote:
>
> Well, my best tech is quitting- Friday will be his last day. He is
> leaving the field- not enough money for his growing family.
>
> He has applied to other shops all arond, and nobody around here is hiring-
> and if they were, nobody pays well enough.
>
> So, he is leaving the field- going into real estate surveying.
>
> I finally got him up to a level where I can trust him to not only do the
> job without supervision, but also to make autonomous decisions when I am
> not there. I was depending on him being there in October so I can take a
> leisurely vacation- my first leisurely vacation ever!
>
> My other tech is not good enough to be left alone or run things when I am
> not there- nor will he ever be good enough for that. But, I know what his
> capabilities are and he does what I ask of him- for the most part.
>
> So far, I cannot even get anyone to apply! I have been advertising the
> position- even via the State Unemployment- not even a bite yet- and that
> is without any salary even being listed.
>
> So, that leaves me to do all the tech work, all the paperwork, and all the
> other crap that comes with running a growing business.
>
> Damn, this is going to suck in a big way!!!

Damn - bad news there Ghost.

If I wasn't so many miles away I might have offered my services so you can
have a holiday. Not sure your wage rate would cover my air fares though
*sniff*

In article <>,
wrote:

> Ghost I'm packing my bags and putting up the FS
> sign right now. You need to take that vacation!

MY HERO!!! lol

Where in NY???

I was born and raised there, and was just back there for school last
month... and NY is part of my vacation plans for October!!!


In article <>, "Kathy"
<> wrote:

> Hi Ghost,
>
> I'm sorry about what's going on with you. I'm in New York, so I can't be any
> help to you. My parents live in Tampa...wish I was there instead of here in
> NY, working conditions sure stink up here.
>
> Good luck
> Kathy
> A+
>
> "Ghost" <> wrote in message
> news:user-2807031805570001@1.0.0.3...
> >
> > North of Tampa Bay, Florida... Where the pay sux- but the working
> > conditions in my shop are geat... lol
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In article <>, wrote:
> >
> > > What State is this job in?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > Ghost wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, my best tech is quitting- Friday will be his last day. He is
> > > > leaving the field- not enough money for his growing family.
> > > >
> > > > He has applied to other shops all arond, and nobody around here is
> hiring-
> > > > and if they were, nobody pays well enough.
> > > >
> > > > So, he is leaving the field- going into real estate surveying.
> > > >
> > > > I finally got him up to a level where I can trust him to not only do
> the
> > > > job without supervision, but also to make autonomous decisions when I
> am
> > > > not there. I was depending on him being there in October so I can
> take a
> > > > leisurely vacation- my first leisurely vacation ever!
> > > >
> > > > My other tech is not good enough to be left alone or run things when I
> am
> > > > not there- nor will he ever be good enough for that. But, I know what
> his
> > > > capabilities are and he does what I ask of him- for the most part.
> > > >
> > > > So far, I cannot even get anyone to apply! I have been advertising
> the
> > > > position- even via the State Unemployment- not even a bite yet- and
> that
> > > > is without any salary even being listed.
> > > >
> > > > So, that leaves me to do all the tech work, all the paperwork, and all
> the
> > > > other crap that comes with running a growing business.
> > > >
> > > > Damn, this is going to suck in a big way!!!

Why don't you publish the salary?
Everybody will know what to expect...

"Ghost" <> wrote in message
news:user-2807031736140001@1.0.0.3...
> Well, my best tech is quitting- Friday will be his last day. He is
> leaving the field- not enough money for his growing family.
>
> He has applied to other shops all arond, and nobody around here is hiring-
> and if they were, nobody pays well enough.
>
> So, he is leaving the field- going into real estate surveying.
>
> I finally got him up to a level where I can trust him to not only do the
> job without supervision, but also to make autonomous decisions when I am
> not there. I was depending on him being there in October so I can take a
> leisurely vacation- my first leisurely vacation ever!
>
> My other tech is not good enough to be left alone or run things when I am
> not there- nor will he ever be good enough for that. But, I know what his
> capabilities are and he does what I ask of him- for the most part.
>
> So far, I cannot even get anyone to apply! I have been advertising the
> position- even via the State Unemployment- not even a bite yet- and that
> is without any salary even being listed.
>
> So, that leaves me to do all the tech work, all the paperwork, and all the
> other crap that comes with running a growing business.
>
> Damn, this is going to suck in a big way!!!

"Ghost" <> wrote in message
news:user-2807031736140001@1.0.0.3...
> Well, my best tech is quitting- Friday will be his last day. He is
> leaving the field- not enough money for his growing family.
SNIP{
> So far, I cannot even get anyone to apply! I have been advertising
the
> position- even via the State Unemployment- not even a bite yet- and
that
> is without any salary even being listed.
>
> So, that leaves me to do all the tech work, all the paperwork, and
all the
> other crap that comes with running a growing business.
>
> Damn, this is going to suck in a big way!!!

Can you explain why wages are so bad in your area? I mentioned a
previous post of yours , where you talked about 8 an hour starting and
15 an hour experienced tech wages, to a friend of mine who is a
location scout (deals with only small businesses). He goes to florida
three or four times a year for a week to three months at a time and
has been all over the state. He couldn't understand high-end burger
flipping wages for computer techs - I said it was the tampa bay area,
and he said that made even less sense.

Are you in an intensely rural area? What's the story?

Mike

In article <>, "MF"
<> wrote:

> "Ghost" <> wrote in message
> news:user-2807031736140001@1.0.0.3...
> > Well, my best tech is quitting- Friday will be his last day. He is
> > leaving the field- not enough money for his growing family.
> SNIP{
> > So far, I cannot even get anyone to apply! I have been advertising
> the
> > position- even via the State Unemployment- not even a bite yet- and
> that
> > is without any salary even being listed.
> >
> > So, that leaves me to do all the tech work, all the paperwork, and
> all the
> > other crap that comes with running a growing business.
> >
> > Damn, this is going to suck in a big way!!!
>
> Can you explain why wages are so bad in your area? I mentioned a
> previous post of yours , where you talked about 8 an hour starting and
> 15 an hour experienced tech wages, to a friend of mine who is a
> location scout (deals with only small businesses). He goes to florida
> three or four times a year for a week to three months at a time and
> has been all over the state. He couldn't understand high-end burger
> flipping wages for computer techs - I said it was the tampa bay area,
> and he said that made even less sense.
>
> Are you in an intensely rural area? What's the story?
>
> Mike



We are about an hour north of Tampa.. pretty rural (more suburban)... not
much industry here...

btw- I do not trust recruiters any more than I trust the monster.com type
boards or employment surveys. They are always skewed to make it appear
oh-so-much better than it really is!

Glen, I won't comment on Ghosts business as I don't know his details.
However, I will comment on business in general and in particular staff and
other costs.

First off we have rent, rates utilities, building insurance, workers
insurance, public liability insurance, vehicle insurance (did I say vehicle
overheads?), possibly business continuity insurance.
Then we have wages (including needing to have some aside for holiday pay
etc.). Now I would hazard a guess that a tech in a smaller place would
maybe charge out 6 hours a day allowing for answering phones and other techs
questions etc. (someone will correct me) - but would usually be paid for 8
hours.
Next would be the cost of showroom stock and replacement parts. Add
advertising and other miscellaneous costs and things start to add up.
Owning a small business and employing staff is not a simple proposition and
I know a lot of people who refuse to grow their business because they do not
want the responsibility of taking on staff.

Now in the industry I was just in I was expected to generate around $200 per
hour just to make the place beat the red ink so I guess a $75 hr charge out
is not unreasonable.

Good analysis Russ!

>Glen, I won't comment on Ghosts business as I don't know his details.
>However, I will comment on business in general and in particular staff and
>other costs.
>
>First off we have rent, rates utilities, building insurance, workers
>insurance, public liability insurance, vehicle insurance (did I say vehicle
>overheads?), possibly business continuity insurance.
>Then we have wages (including needing to have some aside for holiday pay
>etc.). Now I would hazard a guess that a tech in a smaller place would
>maybe charge out 6 hours a day allowing for answering phones and other techs
>questions etc. (someone will correct me) - but would usually be paid for 8
>hours.
>Next would be the cost of showroom stock and replacement parts. Add
>advertising and other miscellaneous costs and things start to add up.
>Owning a small business and employing staff is not a simple proposition and
>I know a lot of people who refuse to grow their business because they do not
>want the responsibility of taking on staff.
>
>Now in the industry I was just in I was expected to generate around $200 per
>hour just to make the place beat the red ink so I guess a $75 hr charge out
>is not unreasonable.
>
>