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passed 218 today, YES :---)

 
 
behnam2u
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      02-02-2004
I got 1025 points and i had 3 or 4 uncorrects , i think.

I used everything from transcenders , testK..., ucertify,
trandumper, cbt nuggets, exam force, cram master, you
name it, i did it and now, i am MCSA and very proud about
it, so wish everybody good luck in this journey , just
stay focused , you will get there.
behnam
 
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Bemused!!
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      02-03-2004
So you already knew the questions before the test!!
Where's the sense of achievement in that?
>-----Original Message-----
>I got 1025 points and i had 3 or 4 uncorrects , i think.
>
>I used everything from transcenders , testK..., ucertify,
>trandumper, cbt nuggets, exam force, cram master, you
>name it, i did it and now, i am MCSA and very proud about
>it, so wish everybody good luck in this journey , just
>stay focused , you will get there.
>behnam
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>

 
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behnam
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      02-03-2004
Yes i was good prepared and if you learn wel, you will
know the answers no matter how difficult, because the
objectives remain the same, and yes i call this
achievement because what is this all about, is knowing
and understanding the objectives of m$ and finding the
right soloutions in your exam questions, so i did my best
to learn and thats why i got there, any objections sir?
Behnam
 
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sux
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      02-03-2004
I think you are missing the point.
I actually do not feel like explaining, if someone else does, please ...

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"behnam" <> wrote in message
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> Yes i was good prepared and if you learn wel, you will
> know the answers no matter how difficult, because the
> objectives remain the same, and yes i call this
> achievement because what is this all about, is knowing
> and understanding the objectives of m$ and finding the
> right soloutions in your exam questions, so i did my best
> to learn and thats why i got there, any objections sir?
> Behnam



 
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Matt
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      02-03-2004
sure...
The point was any monkey with a memory can braindump and pass the exams.
All that does for you though is get you a little piece of paper, it does not
prepare you for real world troubleshooting and administration.

"sux" <> wrote in message
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> I think you are missing the point.
> I actually do not feel like explaining, if someone else does, please ...
>
> --
>
> Mzzl,
> sux =)
> www.defkon.org
>
>
>
> "behnam" <> wrote in message
> news:8bbb01c3ea4b$6ecf9310$...
> > Yes i was good prepared and if you learn wel, you will
> > know the answers no matter how difficult, because the
> > objectives remain the same, and yes i call this
> > achievement because what is this all about, is knowing
> > and understanding the objectives of m$ and finding the
> > right soloutions in your exam questions, so i did my best
> > to learn and thats why i got there, any objections sir?
> > Behnam

>
>



 
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c
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      02-03-2004
Yes in the real world people have to spend real money and not the monopoly
money that is handed out to people who get their training paid.

An exam typically costs 2 days wages to me, do that over the 7 exams for the
MCSE (thats if you get everyone first time). Is it really worth trying to
defend a exam which suffers incompetence from the first question. Get a
real qualification if you want to go on a morality trip about braindumps.
Braindumps are a symptom of the problem.

Bottom line in industry its not what you know its who you know. So does it
matter anyway?
C.

"Matt" <> wrote in message
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> sure...
> The point was any monkey with a memory can braindump and pass the exams.
> All that does for you though is get you a little piece of paper, it does

not
> prepare you for real world troubleshooting and administration.
>
> "sux" <> wrote in message
> news:O%...
> > I think you are missing the point.
> > I actually do not feel like explaining, if someone else does, please ...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Mzzl,
> > sux =)
> > www.defkon.org
> >
> >
> >
> > "behnam" <> wrote in message
> > news:8bbb01c3ea4b$6ecf9310$...
> > > Yes i was good prepared and if you learn wel, you will
> > > know the answers no matter how difficult, because the
> > > objectives remain the same, and yes i call this
> > > achievement because what is this all about, is knowing
> > > and understanding the objectives of m$ and finding the
> > > right soloutions in your exam questions, so i did my best
> > > to learn and thats why i got there, any objections sir?
> > > Behnam

> >
> >

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Chris
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      02-03-2004
Wow, I got the exact same score and didn't use any of those. I
procrastinated on my studying for this one and only read about 100 pages of
the MSPress book before taking the test. I guess real world experience
really does help.

Chris

"behnam2u" <> wrote in message
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> I got 1025 points and i had 3 or 4 uncorrects , i think.
>
> I used everything from transcenders , testK..., ucertify,
> trandumper, cbt nuggets, exam force, cram master, you
> name it, i did it and now, i am MCSA and very proud about
> it, so wish everybody good luck in this journey , just
> stay focused , you will get there.
> behnam



 
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behnam
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      02-04-2004
I don't get it really!

What is wrong with preparing with all the resources 'inc
m$ books' and the rest which everybody knows about it,
the most of them all braindump free.
If you just have not enough field experience and have 2
weeks of scholl and 2 weeks to prepare fo your exam what
you should do?
Do your best to learn as much as possible from every
resource or not?
So, now i don't say i now everything because i am MCSA
but i will try to put everything which i learned in to
the practice situations in the real world and learn
slowly from my mistakes. so, could a monkey with a brain
do this all?

Behnam
 
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Matt
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      02-05-2004
"If you just have not enough field experience and have 2
weeks of scholl and 2 weeks to prepare fo your exam what you should do?"

LOL LOL LOL, maybe you should have taken more then 2 weeks of "scholl".
Microsoft clearly says that these certifications are intended for people
with industry experience. I would say without experience a college
diploma/degree is the best way to gain knowledge and demonstrate that you
can learn.

As for why you shouldn't use braindumps - I'll give you the best and least
talked about one: "Its illegal!" Before you start a test you need to click
on the little button that says "yes" I agree to the licensing and copywrite
laws. Besides its absolutely unnecessary to use braindumps when there are
so many practice exams out there that give you a good understanding of the
types of questions that will be on the exam - preplogic, transender,
measureup, etc....


"behnam" <> wrote in message
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> I don't get it really!
>
> What is wrong with preparing with all the resources 'inc
> m$ books' and the rest which everybody knows about it,
> the most of them all braindump free.
> If you just have not enough field experience and have 2
> weeks of scholl and 2 weeks to prepare fo your exam what
> you should do?
> Do your best to learn as much as possible from every
> resource or not?
> So, now i don't say i now everything because i am MCSA
> but i will try to put everything which i learned in to
> the practice situations in the real world and learn
> slowly from my mistakes. so, could a monkey with a brain
> do this all?
>
> Behnam



 
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Chris
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      02-05-2004
What is wrong, is that at least two of the seven resources that you
mentioned are braindumps. There is nothing wrong with not having much
experience and reading all the books you can and taking all the practice
exams available. When you bring braindumps into the mix though, there is a
problem. Let me put it this way. You read 3 books and take practice tests
from 3 different legitimate providers. Then you read a couple of
braindumps. When test day comes, which are you going to remember? You read
a question and think "I remember reading about this in such and such a book"
or "I don't even need to finish reading this question... I remember from
testking that the answer is B (no matter what B really is.)"
By all means use every legitimate resources you can.

Chris

"behnam" <> wrote in message
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> I don't get it really!
>
> What is wrong with preparing with all the resources 'inc
> m$ books' and the rest which everybody knows about it,
> the most of them all braindump free.
> If you just have not enough field experience and have 2
> weeks of scholl and 2 weeks to prepare fo your exam what
> you should do?
> Do your best to learn as much as possible from every
> resource or not?
> So, now i don't say i now everything because i am MCSA
> but i will try to put everything which i learned in to
> the practice situations in the real world and learn
> slowly from my mistakes. so, could a monkey with a brain
> do this all?
>
> Behnam



 
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