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A+/Net+ = MCP or not?

 
 
SkydiveGuy
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      11-13-2003
I am confused... I have my A+ and Network+ certs and
according to what I am reading here:

http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/partners.asp

I only need to take (not pass) an MCP exam to become an
MCP when I hold both these certs....

Is it just me or is this kinda stupid?

Another way for Microsoft to get $125 out of me?

I want to be able to place the MCP cert on my resume since
I am recognized as an MCP without taking the exams!

I am currently workign towards my MCSA so it will not be
an issue when I pass the first exam... but still!


 
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Rick
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      11-13-2003
You must take and pass one Microsoft test to become a MCP. Refer to the
following link
http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/m...quirements.asp
The Comptia Exams can be used as electives for MCSA and MCSE, BUT DO NOT
COUNT AS AN MCP.


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Brat
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      11-13-2003
"Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You must take and pass one Microsoft test to become a MCP. Refer to the
> following link
> http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/m...quirements.asp
> The Comptia Exams can be used as electives for MCSA and MCSE, BUT DO NOT
> COUNT AS AN MCP.


Rick is right... I think the terminology would be... A+ can be used "in lieu
of" an MCP exam but only as part of the MCSA/MCSE certification process.

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>
> --
> Rick
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SkydiveGuiy
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      11-13-2003
That link doesnt tell me squat!

You are missing my point here....

What does this link do when you supply the info to CompTIA:
http://www.comptia.org/certification...ms_signup_form
..asp

????????????????????????




>-----Original Message-----
>You must take and pass one Microsoft test to become a

MCP. Refer to the
>following link
>http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/m...equirements.as

p
>The Comptia Exams can be used as electives for MCSA and

MCSE, BUT DO NOT
>COUNT AS AN MCP.
>
>
>--
>Rick
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FrisbeeŽ MCNGP
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      11-13-2003
David K wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:06:34 -0800, "SkydiveGuy"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I am confused... I have my A+ and Network+ certs and
>> according to what I am reading here:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/partners.asp
>>
>> I only need to take (not pass) an MCP exam to become an
>> MCP when I hold both these certs....

>
> "Take at least one MCP exam and obtain an MCP ID number."
>
> They say take, but they mean pass. It wouldn't make any sense if they
> gave MCP certs out to people who don't pass the test, right?


I'd sue if I were you, SkydiveGuy.

False advertising.

I happen to know a nice MCNGP lawyer, too.

Diana "Ambulance chaser" K. Brown

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
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Patric O.
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      11-13-2003
The key here is "obtain and MCP ID number" - you don't get
one of those until you pass the test. The wording is
confusing, but certainly not tort worthy.

PO



>-----Original Message-----
>I am confused... I have my A+ and Network+ certs and
>according to what I am reading here:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/partners.asp
>
>I only need to take (not pass) an MCP exam to become an
>MCP when I hold both these certs....
>
>Is it just me or is this kinda stupid?
>
>Another way for Microsoft to get $125 out of me?
>
>I want to be able to place the MCP cert on my resume

since
>I am recognized as an MCP without taking the exams!
>
>I am currently workign towards my MCSA so it will not be
>an issue when I pass the first exam... but still!
>
>
>.
>

 
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Patric O.
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      11-13-2003
And then... I actually read what it says and realize that
I was wrong... You get an MCP ID by taking (not passing)
and exam. But it explains above that what the 2 exams can
be used for - as elective credit for the MCP Certification
of MCSA - Microsft calls an advanced cert an MCP
Certification, because to get MCSA, et al., you must be an
MCP.

Patric

>-----Original Message-----
>I am confused... I have my A+ and Network+ certs and
>according to what I am reading here:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/partners.asp
>
>I only need to take (not pass) an MCP exam to become an
>MCP when I hold both these certs....
>
>Is it just me or is this kinda stupid?
>
>Another way for Microsoft to get $125 out of me?
>
>I want to be able to place the MCP cert on my resume

since
>I am recognized as an MCP without taking the exams!
>
>I am currently workign towards my MCSA so it will not be
>an issue when I pass the first exam... but still!
>
>
>.
>

 
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Plain Jane@nospam.com
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      11-13-2003
If you have problem of reading Microsoft's requirement,
why brother to obtain a MCP, Microsoft Certified
Professional. I can take A+, Net + and other certs from
Symantec,or Cisco. Are they Microsoft Certified?
Let's be real, you are not in law school!


>-----Original Message-----
>I am confused... I have my A+ and Network+ certs and
>according to what I am reading here:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/partners.asp
>
>I only need to take (not pass) an MCP exam to become an
>MCP when I hold both these certs....
>
>Is it just me or is this kinda stupid?
>
>Another way for Microsoft to get $125 out of me?
>
>I want to be able to place the MCP cert on my resume

since
>I am recognized as an MCP without taking the exams!
>
>I am currently workign towards my MCSA so it will not be
>an issue when I pass the first exam... but still!
>
>
>.
>

 
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Skydiveguy
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      11-17-2003
Obviously you cant read what I posted because if you did
you would see that it states that you must take, NOT PASS
the exam.

So my question here is not the fact that they are
not "Microsoft" but that weather I pass or fail a
Microsoft exam I will get my MCP number becasue I have
these 2 certs!

The microsoft wording needs to be changed if this is
the "way" .... bottom line.


>-----Original Message-----
>If you have problem of reading Microsoft's requirement,
>why brother to obtain a MCP, Microsoft Certified
>Professional. I can take A+, Net + and other certs from
>Symantec,or Cisco. Are they Microsoft Certified?
>Let's be real, you are not in law school!
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I am confused... I have my A+ and Network+ certs and
>>according to what I am reading here:
>>
>>http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/partners.asp
>>
>>I only need to take (not pass) an MCP exam to become an
>>MCP when I hold both these certs....
>>
>>Is it just me or is this kinda stupid?
>>
>>Another way for Microsoft to get $125 out of me?
>>
>>I want to be able to place the MCP cert on my resume

>since
>>I am recognized as an MCP without taking the exams!
>>
>>I am currently workign towards my MCSA so it will not be
>>an issue when I pass the first exam... but still!
>>
>>
>>.
>>

>.
>

 
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SkydiveGuy
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      11-19-2003
Dumb wording on their part...



>-----Original Message-----
>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:06:34 -0800, "SkydiveGuy"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I am confused... I have my A+ and Network+ certs and
>>according to what I am reading here:
>>
>>http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/partners.asp
>>
>>I only need to take (not pass) an MCP exam to become an
>>MCP when I hold both these certs....

>
>Actually, I read the page more carefully, and I was wrong

in my first
>reply, and it looks like you were reading the page wrong

too. In order
>to apply CompTIA credits, they need a Microsoft account

to apply them
>to (ie: an MCP account), no matter how far along the

Microsoft track
>you are, including not having passed the first MCP test.

So the MCP
>cert and an MCP ID number aren't the same thing, since

you can get the
>ID number for your account even if you fail the test -

you just don't
>get the cert until you pass.
>
>Dave
>.
>

 
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