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Clint Kennedy
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      08-11-2003
Your posts are really getting annoying. Could you please not respond to
every message with an advertisement for your company. We understand what
New Horizons is. Chase after you commission somewhere else, you're making
your company look bad.

Just start alt.newhorizons.ronwilliams

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Clint Kennedy, BSCS, MCP


 
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Ron Williams
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      08-12-2003
It is of no consequence whether or not you feel that my
posts are getting annoying. In fact, I have received
many replies to my posts, which have offered some really
sound advice for those trying to get through this. As
far as it pertains to my commissions....it would help if
you knew a little bit about me before you come across as
rude.

At any rate, I will continue to post replys to those who
have questions that I feel I can answer and have
answered...seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious YOU
can't. My company is indeed the largest IT Training
Provider in the World, and I represent my company with
pride and with great intentions.

So Mr. Kennedy, why dont you take a page out of your own
book and stop making yourself look bad by being so rude
with your posts.

And by the way: YOU dont have to point and click on my
posts to begin with....just advance to something else and
refrain from your mindless jabbering about my posts. Im
sure you have something better to do...perhaps go for
your MCSE or something.
>-----Original Message-----
>Your posts are really getting annoying. Could you

please not respond to
>every message with an advertisement for your company.

We understand what
>New Horizons is. Chase after you commission somewhere

else, you're making
>your company look bad.
>
>Just start alt.newhorizons.ronwilliams
>
>--
>Clint Kennedy, BSCS, MCP
>
>
>.
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Maestro
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      08-12-2003
Perhaps we should forward this thread to the management at
New Horizons and see if they agree this is how they want
their company image portrayed to the public. Even if Ron
were right, and I'm not saying that he is, his customer
relations has a great deal to be desired. Especially if
as he claims he is an Account Exec.

>-----Original Message-----
>"seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious YOU

can't ...perhaps go for your
>MCSE or something."
>
>Right. Only people with a piece of paper that says MCSE

on it are
>knowledgable. If you don't have it, you can't know

anything. Right?
>
>This is what the New Horizon's representative is saying

to the world.
>*sigh*
>
>You're laughable. Your situation is more than obvious.

You're a new
>account exec, you're hurting for clients, and you're

coming to the newsgroup
>looking for sales SPAMMING your advertising in poor-

answer wrappers.
>
>"Ron Williams" <> wrote in message
>news:014801c36100$2ed57060$...
>> It is of no consequence whether or not you feel that my
>> posts are getting annoying. In fact, I have received
>> many replies to my posts, which have offered some really
>> sound advice for those trying to get through this. As
>> far as it pertains to my commissions....it would help if
>> you knew a little bit about me before you come across as
>> rude.
>>
>> At any rate, I will continue to post replys to those who
>> have questions that I feel I can answer and have
>> answered...seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious

YOU
>> can't. My company is indeed the largest IT Training
>> Provider in the World, and I represent my company with
>> pride and with great intentions.
>>
>> So Mr. Kennedy, why dont you take a page out of your own
>> book and stop making yourself look bad by being so rude
>> with your posts.
>>
>> And by the way: YOU dont have to point and click on my
>> posts to begin with....just advance to something else

and
>> refrain from your mindless jabbering about my posts. Im
>> sure you have something better to do...perhaps go for
>> your MCSE or something.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Your posts are really getting annoying. Could you

>> please not respond to
>> >every message with an advertisement for your company.

>> We understand what
>> >New Horizons is. Chase after you commission somewhere

>> else, you're making
>> >your company look bad.
>> >
>> >Just start alt.newhorizons.ronwilliams
>> >
>> >--
>> >Clint Kennedy, BSCS, MCP
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
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Ron Williams
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      08-12-2003
No, this is what Ron Williams (in and of myself) is
saying to you, seeing as your rudeness comes from left
field. But if you dont have it Mr. Kennedy..realize that
there are many many many people out there will be hired
before they would even THINK to hire you...Bachelor's
Degree OR no bachelor's Degree. Although I must say, at
least you have the right kind of Bachelor's Degree.

SPAMMING isnt a part of my game. In fact, I wouldnt know
the first clue as to how to do it. My success has come
from being in the trenches, find the lead, repoire the
lead, put it in a pot and out comes a sale. Im very very
comfy financially...but 4 more years is what I'll need to
retire so......

I think the way that this helps me most is that I am able
to find out from students what problems they are running
into with taking these exams---and I am in the process of
learning of the many different resources available to
students so that I can try my hand at consulting...of
course, maybe I should make sure to double verify info.

Once again, I'll be sure to not misuse this newsgroup
Clint. But there ARE times that there might be a really
good workshop that I'll(personally) put together that I
think will do some good from time to time.

But no more New Horizons ads, I promise.
>-----Original Message-----
>"seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious YOU

can't ...perhaps go for your
>MCSE or something."
>
>Right. Only people with a piece of paper that says MCSE

on it are
>knowledgable. If you don't have it, you can't know

anything. Right?
>
>This is what the New Horizon's representative is saying

to the world.
>*sigh*
>
>You're laughable. Your situation is more than obvious.

You're a new
>account exec, you're hurting for clients, and you're

coming to the newsgroup
>looking for sales SPAMMING your advertising in poor-

answer wrappers.
>
>"Ron Williams" <> wrote in message
>news:014801c36100$2ed57060$...
>> It is of no consequence whether or not you feel that my
>> posts are getting annoying. In fact, I have received
>> many replies to my posts, which have offered some

really
>> sound advice for those trying to get through this. As
>> far as it pertains to my commissions....it would help

if
>> you knew a little bit about me before you come across

as
>> rude.
>>
>> At any rate, I will continue to post replys to those

who
>> have questions that I feel I can answer and have
>> answered...seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious

YOU
>> can't. My company is indeed the largest IT Training
>> Provider in the World, and I represent my company with
>> pride and with great intentions.
>>
>> So Mr. Kennedy, why dont you take a page out of your

own
>> book and stop making yourself look bad by being so rude
>> with your posts.
>>
>> And by the way: YOU dont have to point and click on my
>> posts to begin with....just advance to something else

and
>> refrain from your mindless jabbering about my posts.

Im
>> sure you have something better to do...perhaps go for
>> your MCSE or something.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Your posts are really getting annoying. Could you

>> please not respond to
>> >every message with an advertisement for your company.

>> We understand what
>> >New Horizons is. Chase after you commission somewhere

>> else, you're making
>> >your company look bad.
>> >
>> >Just start alt.newhorizons.ronwilliams
>> >
>> >--
>> >Clint Kennedy, BSCS, MCP
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
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>

 
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Ron Williams
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      08-12-2003
You may do as you wish, however, I have done all the
apologizing for my error that I intend to do.

As far as my customer relations is to be desired, I will
not openly be disrespected by anyone at anytime. The
rudeness started from another source: I was slammed for
informing the newsgroup of the windows 2003 update
workshops we had, but i only did it because it looked to
be a really good 5 days of "shop" for the students.

I will no longer advertise....

I am rooting for all of you guys with what you are trying
to do: MCSA/MCSE/whomever...i wish all of you guys luck
with this, but i dont think you guys really need
it....with the posts I have read..you guys are as
dedicated as i have seen......

that will be all
>-----Original Message-----
>Perhaps we should forward this thread to the management

at
>New Horizons and see if they agree this is how they want
>their company image portrayed to the public. Even if

Ron
>were right, and I'm not saying that he is, his customer
>relations has a great deal to be desired. Especially if
>as he claims he is an Account Exec.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>"seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious YOU

>can't ...perhaps go for your
>>MCSE or something."
>>
>>Right. Only people with a piece of paper that says

MCSE
>on it are
>>knowledgable. If you don't have it, you can't know

>anything. Right?
>>
>>This is what the New Horizon's representative is saying

>to the world.
>>*sigh*
>>
>>You're laughable. Your situation is more than

obvious.
>You're a new
>>account exec, you're hurting for clients, and you're

>coming to the newsgroup
>>looking for sales SPAMMING your advertising in poor-

>answer wrappers.
>>
>>"Ron Williams" <> wrote in message
>>news:014801c36100$2ed57060$...
>>> It is of no consequence whether or not you feel that

my
>>> posts are getting annoying. In fact, I have received
>>> many replies to my posts, which have offered some

really
>>> sound advice for those trying to get through this. As
>>> far as it pertains to my commissions....it would help

if
>>> you knew a little bit about me before you come across

as
>>> rude.
>>>
>>> At any rate, I will continue to post replys to those

who
>>> have questions that I feel I can answer and have
>>> answered...seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious

>YOU
>>> can't. My company is indeed the largest IT Training
>>> Provider in the World, and I represent my company with
>>> pride and with great intentions.
>>>
>>> So Mr. Kennedy, why dont you take a page out of your

own
>>> book and stop making yourself look bad by being so

rude
>>> with your posts.
>>>
>>> And by the way: YOU dont have to point and click on

my
>>> posts to begin with....just advance to something else

>and
>>> refrain from your mindless jabbering about my posts.

Im
>>> sure you have something better to do...perhaps go for
>>> your MCSE or something.
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >Your posts are really getting annoying. Could you
>>> please not respond to
>>> >every message with an advertisement for your company.
>>> We understand what
>>> >New Horizons is. Chase after you commission

somewhere
>>> else, you're making
>>> >your company look bad.
>>> >
>>> >Just start alt.newhorizons.ronwilliams
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Clint Kennedy, BSCS, MCP
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >.
>>> >

>>
>>
>>.
>>

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Clint Kennedy
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      08-12-2003
I am THE development & IT hiring manager & supervisor for a global
communications company, Ron. Thanks for the advice.

-c

"Ron Williams" <> wrote in message
news:052901c3611c$87c63bc0$...
> No, this is what Ron Williams (in and of myself) is
> saying to you, seeing as your rudeness comes from left
> field. But if you dont have it Mr. Kennedy..realize that
> there are many many many people out there will be hired
> before they would even THINK to hire you...Bachelor's
> Degree OR no bachelor's Degree. Although I must say, at
> least you have the right kind of Bachelor's Degree.



 
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Maestro
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      08-12-2003
Ron,

I don't know who you think you're fooling, but it's not
working on me. In every apology that I've read from you,
you mentioned the five day workshop and how great you
think it would be. You're still advertising, but trying
to disguise it as an apology. As evidenced by some of the
post we see here there are some that are not very informed
or very critical, and are willing to be led where ever
anyone who claims to have the answers will take them. You
may be able to take advantage of that group, but that
still doesn't make what you're doing any more acceptable.

The beauty of posting in these newsgroups is that if you
feel you've been disrespected, openly or otherwise you can
ignore the poster, so again I'm not buying into it. As
far as I can tell you've been consumed by your ego and how
great you think you are (or claim to be).

>-----Original Message-----
>You may do as you wish, however, I have done all the
>apologizing for my error that I intend to do.
>
>As far as my customer relations is to be desired, I will
>not openly be disrespected by anyone at anytime. The
>rudeness started from another source: I was slammed for
>informing the newsgroup of the windows 2003 update
>workshops we had, but i only did it because it looked to
>be a really good 5 days of "shop" for the students.
>
>I will no longer advertise....
>
>I am rooting for all of you guys with what you are trying
>to do: MCSA/MCSE/whomever...i wish all of you guys luck
>with this, but i dont think you guys really need
>it....with the posts I have read..you guys are as
>dedicated as i have seen......
>
>that will be all
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Perhaps we should forward this thread to the management

>at
>>New Horizons and see if they agree this is how they want
>>their company image portrayed to the public. Even if

>Ron
>>were right, and I'm not saying that he is, his customer
>>relations has a great deal to be desired. Especially if
>>as he claims he is an Account Exec.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>"seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious YOU

>>can't ...perhaps go for your
>>>MCSE or something."
>>>
>>>Right. Only people with a piece of paper that says

>MCSE
>>on it are
>>>knowledgable. If you don't have it, you can't know

>>anything. Right?
>>>
>>>This is what the New Horizon's representative is saying

>>to the world.
>>>*sigh*
>>>
>>>You're laughable. Your situation is more than

>obvious.
>>You're a new
>>>account exec, you're hurting for clients, and you're

>>coming to the newsgroup
>>>looking for sales SPAMMING your advertising in poor-

>>answer wrappers.
>>>
>>>"Ron Williams" <> wrote in message
>>>news:014801c36100$2ed57060$.. .
>>>> It is of no consequence whether or not you feel that

>my
>>>> posts are getting annoying. In fact, I have received
>>>> many replies to my posts, which have offered some

>really
>>>> sound advice for those trying to get through this. As
>>>> far as it pertains to my commissions....it would help

>if
>>>> you knew a little bit about me before you come across

>as
>>>> rude.
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, I will continue to post replys to those

>who
>>>> have questions that I feel I can answer and have
>>>> answered...seeing as you are just an MCP, its obvious

>>YOU
>>>> can't. My company is indeed the largest IT Training
>>>> Provider in the World, and I represent my company with
>>>> pride and with great intentions.
>>>>
>>>> So Mr. Kennedy, why dont you take a page out of your

>own
>>>> book and stop making yourself look bad by being so

>rude
>>>> with your posts.
>>>>
>>>> And by the way: YOU dont have to point and click on

>my
>>>> posts to begin with....just advance to something else

>>and
>>>> refrain from your mindless jabbering about my posts.

>Im
>>>> sure you have something better to do...perhaps go for
>>>> your MCSE or something.
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >Your posts are really getting annoying. Could you
>>>> please not respond to
>>>> >every message with an advertisement for your company.
>>>> We understand what
>>>> >New Horizons is. Chase after you commission

>somewhere
>>>> else, you're making
>>>> >your company look bad.
>>>> >
>>>> >Just start alt.newhorizons.ronwilliams
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >Clint Kennedy, BSCS, MCP
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >.
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>

>>.
>>

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