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Well, here it is...Part deux!

The cheating industry that is devaluing IT certification - part two
http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/13646


These are the other links I posted from the Part 1 post, in case ya missed
'em.
http://www.networkworld.com/subnets/cisco/

This is part 1 of the article:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/13341




Some other useful links:

Home: http://www.CertGuard.com
Forums: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
Braindumps: http://www.CertGuard.com/braindumps.asp
Practice Test Providers: http://www.CertGuard.com/reviews.asp
Study Materials and Books: http://www.CertGuard.com/store.asp
Vendor Links and Emails: http://www.CertGuard.com/links.asp


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Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.




Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's exam
data to produce those B***D****(TM).

From my own exprience:

1 When I arrived a test center on time, they needed me wait 30 mins before I
could start my test. Looks like they needed to make a ghost image before
they let me start. (a beta exam)

2 A specific beta exam should give me 210 mins on the test and 60 min on
comment. The exam was at about 150 mins, the 5 mins warning, the exam ended
notification pop one by one and the exam was ended. When I tried to start
the comment session, both pop up showed right on the beginning. Looks like
someone had modified the total appointment time to force my exam end earily.
I suspected that they could release the remaining 120 mins after I left, so
as to copy down the questions from my exam. The funny thing was that the
test center admin gave me a phishing link and said I should use it to
contact Microsoft about that problem.

3. After I passed an exam (not a beta), the test center held my test record
for one week. The online status was freezed as "Pending" or "Ready to
deliver" for 7 days before it finally show "pass". Looks like someone wanna
hold that exam record and crack it. I got over 900 score at that exam.

4. When I arrived at a test center, the test center admin said they can't
load my exam record. After sometimes, I was forced to reschedule the beta
exam on another date. May be the exam was successfully loaded indeed.
Someone just wanted to have much more time to make images of their server
and computers.

5. When the exam (beta exam) started, I checked the date was correct. When
the exam ended, the printed report showed the date of tomorrow. It should
not be a problem due to timezone difference. Why did the test center need
that one "extra day"?


I don't trust the test centers. I always try to distribute my tests to
different test centers: Learning Solution Partners, big and small IT and
non-IT Schools, Universities. Unfortunately, it looks like many of them
would do similar things. How much money will the test admin or the boss of
the rogue test center gets, if he captures a full set of a new beta exam
from a test taker, and sells it to T***K***?



> Well, here it is...Part deux!
>
> The cheating industry that is devaluing IT certification - part two
> http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/13646
>
>
> These are the other links I posted from the Part 1 post, in case ya missed
> 'em.
> http://www.networkworld.com/subnets/cisco/
>
> This is part 1 of the article:
> http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/13341
>
>
>
>
> Some other useful links:
>
> Home: http://www.CertGuard.com
> Forums: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
> Braindumps: http://www.CertGuard.com/braindumps.asp
> Practice Test Providers: http://www.CertGuard.com/reviews.asp
> Study Materials and Books: http://www.CertGuard.com/store.asp
> Vendor Links and Emails: http://www.CertGuard.com/links.asp
>
>
> --
> CertGuard
> You think you know IT?!?!
> Check out the new 'No Braindump' CertGear:
> http://www.cafepress.com/certguard <-- we sell Thongs!!
>
>
>
>

That is very interesting indeed. I will take all that information into
consideration for the article I'm planning on writing.

I will repost the original message ASAP.

Thanks again!

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"Anonymous Reader" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
>
>
>
>
> Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's exam
> data to produce those B***D****(TM).
>
> From my own exprience:
>
> 1 When I arrived a test center on time, they needed me wait 30 mins before
> I
> could start my test. Looks like they needed to make a ghost image before
> they let me start. (a beta exam)
>
> 2 A specific beta exam should give me 210 mins on the test and 60 min on
> comment. The exam was at about 150 mins, the 5 mins warning, the exam
> ended
> notification pop one by one and the exam was ended. When I tried to start
> the comment session, both pop up showed right on the beginning. Looks
> like
> someone had modified the total appointment time to force my exam end
> earily.
> I suspected that they could release the remaining 120 mins after I left,
> so
> as to copy down the questions from my exam. The funny thing was that the
> test center admin gave me a phishing link and said I should use it to
> contact Microsoft about that problem.
>
> 3. After I passed an exam (not a beta), the test center held my test
> record
> for one week. The online status was freezed as "Pending" or "Ready to
> deliver" for 7 days before it finally show "pass". Looks like someone
> wanna
> hold that exam record and crack it. I got over 900 score at that exam.
>
> 4. When I arrived at a test center, the test center admin said they can't
> load my exam record. After sometimes, I was forced to reschedule the beta
> exam on another date. May be the exam was successfully loaded indeed.
> Someone just wanted to have much more time to make images of their server
> and computers.
>
> 5. When the exam (beta exam) started, I checked the date was correct.
> When
> the exam ended, the printed report showed the date of tomorrow. It should
> not be a problem due to timezone difference. Why did the test center need
> that one "extra day"?
>
>
> I don't trust the test centers. I always try to distribute my tests to
> different test centers: Learning Solution Partners, big and small IT and
> non-IT Schools, Universities. Unfortunately, it looks like many of them
> would do similar things. How much money will the test admin or the boss
> of
> the rogue test center gets, if he captures a full set of a new beta exam
> from a test taker, and sells it to T***K***?
>
>
>
>> Well, here it is...Part deux!
>>
>> The cheating industry that is devaluing IT certification - part two
>> http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/13646
>>
>>
>> These are the other links I posted from the Part 1 post, in case ya
>> missed
>> 'em.
>> http://www.networkworld.com/subnets/cisco/
>>
>> This is part 1 of the article:
>> http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/13341
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Some other useful links:
>>
>> Home: http://www.CertGuard.com
>> Forums: http://www.CertGuard.com/forums/
>> Braindumps: http://www.CertGuard.com/braindumps.asp
>> Practice Test Providers: http://www.CertGuard.com/reviews.asp
>> Study Materials and Books: http://www.CertGuard.com/store.asp
>> Vendor Links and Emails: http://www.CertGuard.com/links.asp
>>
>>
>> --
>> CertGuard
>> You think you know IT?!?!
>> Check out the new 'No Braindump' CertGear:
>> http://www.cafepress.com/certguard <-- we sell Thongs!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Anonymous Reader" <> wrote in
news::

> Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
>
>
>
>
> Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's
> exam data to produce those B***D****(TM).
>
> From my own exprience:
>
> 1 When I arrived a test center on time, they needed me wait 30 mins
> before I could start my test. Looks like they needed to make a ghost
> image before they let me start. (a beta exam)
>
> 2 A specific beta exam should give me 210 mins on the test and 60 min
> on comment. The exam was at about 150 mins, the 5 mins warning, the
> exam ended notification pop one by one and the exam was ended. When I
> tried to start the comment session, both pop up showed right on the
> beginning. Looks like someone had modified the total appointment time
> to force my exam end earily. I suspected that they could release the
> remaining 120 mins after I left, so as to copy down the questions from
> my exam. The funny thing was that the test center admin gave me a
> phishing link and said I should use it to contact Microsoft about that
> problem.
>
> 3. After I passed an exam (not a beta), the test center held my test
> record for one week. The online status was freezed as "Pending" or
> "Ready to deliver" for 7 days before it finally show "pass". Looks
> like someone wanna hold that exam record and crack it. I got over 900
> score at that exam.
>
> 4. When I arrived at a test center, the test center admin said they
> can't load my exam record. After sometimes, I was forced to
> reschedule the beta exam on another date. May be the exam was
> successfully loaded indeed. Someone just wanted to have much more time
> to make images of their server and computers.
>
> 5. When the exam (beta exam) started, I checked the date was correct.
> When the exam ended, the printed report showed the date of tomorrow.
> It should not be a problem due to timezone difference. Why did the
> test center need that one "extra day"?
>
>
> I don't trust the test centers. I always try to distribute my tests
> to different test centers: Learning Solution Partners, big and small
> IT and non-IT Schools, Universities. Unfortunately, it looks like
> many of them would do similar things. How much money will the test
> admin or the boss of the rogue test center gets, if he captures a full
> set of a new beta exam from a test taker, and sells it to T***K***?


Out of curiosity what country does this suspicious activity take place?
Luckily I have not seen anything so suspicious here at the test center
by my house...

Anonymous Reader wrote:
> Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
>
>
>
>
> Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's exam
> data to produce those B***D****(TM).
>
> From my own exprience:
>

I'd like to request that you forward the details of these experiences to
Certguard. Locations of test centers, specific dates, etc. I think you
can rely on their confidentiality, but you can remain anonymous if you like.

Certguard, I think you should forward this info to your guys at MS,
don't you? Why don't you let ol' anonymous know how he can send it to
you. Is the newsgroupsATcertguardDOTcom a monitored addy?

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Remove hat to reply

The IP Address has China written ALL over it.

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"Red Swingline Stapler" <> wrote in message
news:Xns990E548321B97nowaycom@207.46.248.16...
> "Anonymous Reader" <> wrote in
> news::
>
>> Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's
>> exam data to produce those B***D****(TM).
>>
>> From my own exprience:
>>
>> 1 When I arrived a test center on time, they needed me wait 30 mins
>> before I could start my test. Looks like they needed to make a ghost
>> image before they let me start. (a beta exam)
>>
>> 2 A specific beta exam should give me 210 mins on the test and 60 min
>> on comment. The exam was at about 150 mins, the 5 mins warning, the
>> exam ended notification pop one by one and the exam was ended. When I
>> tried to start the comment session, both pop up showed right on the
>> beginning. Looks like someone had modified the total appointment time
>> to force my exam end earily. I suspected that they could release the
>> remaining 120 mins after I left, so as to copy down the questions from
>> my exam. The funny thing was that the test center admin gave me a
>> phishing link and said I should use it to contact Microsoft about that
>> problem.
>>
>> 3. After I passed an exam (not a beta), the test center held my test
>> record for one week. The online status was freezed as "Pending" or
>> "Ready to deliver" for 7 days before it finally show "pass". Looks
>> like someone wanna hold that exam record and crack it. I got over 900
>> score at that exam.
>>
>> 4. When I arrived at a test center, the test center admin said they
>> can't load my exam record. After sometimes, I was forced to
>> reschedule the beta exam on another date. May be the exam was
>> successfully loaded indeed. Someone just wanted to have much more time
>> to make images of their server and computers.
>>
>> 5. When the exam (beta exam) started, I checked the date was correct.
>> When the exam ended, the printed report showed the date of tomorrow.
>> It should not be a problem due to timezone difference. Why did the
>> test center need that one "extra day"?
>>
>>
>> I don't trust the test centers. I always try to distribute my tests
>> to different test centers: Learning Solution Partners, big and small
>> IT and non-IT Schools, Universities. Unfortunately, it looks like
>> many of them would do similar things. How much money will the test
>> admin or the boss of the rogue test center gets, if he captures a full
>> set of a new beta exam from a test taker, and sells it to T***K***?
>
>
> Out of curiosity what country does this suspicious activity take place?
> Luckily I have not seen anything so suspicious here at the test center
> by my house...
>

The IP Address has China written ALL over it.

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"Red Swingline Stapler" <> wrote in message
news:Xns990E548321B97nowaycom@207.46.248.16...
> "Anonymous Reader" <> wrote in
> news::
>
>> Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's
>> exam data to produce those B***D****(TM).
>>
>> From my own exprience:
>>
>> 1 When I arrived a test center on time, they needed me wait 30 mins
>> before I could start my test. Looks like they needed to make a ghost
>> image before they let me start. (a beta exam)
>>
>> 2 A specific beta exam should give me 210 mins on the test and 60 min
>> on comment. The exam was at about 150 mins, the 5 mins warning, the
>> exam ended notification pop one by one and the exam was ended. When I
>> tried to start the comment session, both pop up showed right on the
>> beginning. Looks like someone had modified the total appointment time
>> to force my exam end earily. I suspected that they could release the
>> remaining 120 mins after I left, so as to copy down the questions from
>> my exam. The funny thing was that the test center admin gave me a
>> phishing link and said I should use it to contact Microsoft about that
>> problem.
>>
>> 3. After I passed an exam (not a beta), the test center held my test
>> record for one week. The online status was freezed as "Pending" or
>> "Ready to deliver" for 7 days before it finally show "pass". Looks
>> like someone wanna hold that exam record and crack it. I got over 900
>> score at that exam.
>>
>> 4. When I arrived at a test center, the test center admin said they
>> can't load my exam record. After sometimes, I was forced to
>> reschedule the beta exam on another date. May be the exam was
>> successfully loaded indeed. Someone just wanted to have much more time
>> to make images of their server and computers.
>>
>> 5. When the exam (beta exam) started, I checked the date was correct.
>> When the exam ended, the printed report showed the date of tomorrow.
>> It should not be a problem due to timezone difference. Why did the
>> test center need that one "extra day"?
>>
>>
>> I don't trust the test centers. I always try to distribute my tests
>> to different test centers: Learning Solution Partners, big and small
>> IT and non-IT Schools, Universities. Unfortunately, it looks like
>> many of them would do similar things. How much money will the test
>> admin or the boss of the rogue test center gets, if he captures a full
>> set of a new beta exam from a test taker, and sells it to T***K***?
>
>
> Out of curiosity what country does this suspicious activity take place?
> Luckily I have not seen anything so suspicious here at the test center
> by my house...
>

Why does WLMD give errors, then send the message anyways?

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"CertGuard" <CertGuard - The Stronghold for Excellence in IT Certification and
Exam Security> wrote in message news:...
> The IP Address has China written ALL over it.
>
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>
> "Red Swingline Stapler" <> wrote in message
> news:Xns990E548321B97nowaycom@207.46.248.16...
>> "Anonymous Reader" <> wrote in
>> news::
>>
>>> Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's
>>> exam data to produce those B***D****(TM).
>>>
>>> From my own exprience:
>>>
>>> 1 When I arrived a test center on time, they needed me wait 30 mins
>>> before I could start my test. Looks like they needed to make a ghost
>>> image before they let me start. (a beta exam)
>>>
>>> 2 A specific beta exam should give me 210 mins on the test and 60 min
>>> on comment. The exam was at about 150 mins, the 5 mins warning, the
>>> exam ended notification pop one by one and the exam was ended. When I
>>> tried to start the comment session, both pop up showed right on the
>>> beginning. Looks like someone had modified the total appointment time
>>> to force my exam end earily. I suspected that they could release the
>>> remaining 120 mins after I left, so as to copy down the questions from
>>> my exam. The funny thing was that the test center admin gave me a
>>> phishing link and said I should use it to contact Microsoft about that
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> 3. After I passed an exam (not a beta), the test center held my test
>>> record for one week. The online status was freezed as "Pending" or
>>> "Ready to deliver" for 7 days before it finally show "pass". Looks
>>> like someone wanna hold that exam record and crack it. I got over 900
>>> score at that exam.
>>>
>>> 4. When I arrived at a test center, the test center admin said they
>>> can't load my exam record. After sometimes, I was forced to
>>> reschedule the beta exam on another date. May be the exam was
>>> successfully loaded indeed. Someone just wanted to have much more time
>>> to make images of their server and computers.
>>>
>>> 5. When the exam (beta exam) started, I checked the date was correct.
>>> When the exam ended, the printed report showed the date of tomorrow.
>>> It should not be a problem due to timezone difference. Why did the
>>> test center need that one "extra day"?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't trust the test centers. I always try to distribute my tests
>>> to different test centers: Learning Solution Partners, big and small
>>> IT and non-IT Schools, Universities. Unfortunately, it looks like
>>> many of them would do similar things. How much money will the test
>>> admin or the boss of the rogue test center gets, if he captures a full
>>> set of a new beta exam from a test taker, and sells it to T***K***?
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity what country does this suspicious activity take place?
>> Luckily I have not seen anything so suspicious here at the test center
>> by my house...
>>

For some of the cases, I have sent comments to VUE/Prometric. I don't know
what they did. I didn't expect they can do much about that. May be the
test centers really having some problems out of their control. It's hard to
get solid evidence, even if the test center did do something evil.

I try to distribute my exams to different test centers. Just want to avoid
all of my exam records following into the hands of one single test center.
Fortunately, there are totally about 20 VUE/Prometric test centers for me to
choose in the little city.

You can't stop the test center admin from arranging her friends to take a
holiday mid-night exam together with all the books open. You can't stop the
test center admin from giving her keys, username and password to her best
friend to take self-servicing exam. You can't stop the test center admin
from allowing her friends to copy down the exam questions. When you found
the VGA graphic respond in your exam is very slow, as if there is a remote
monitoring software running in the background, you can do nothing. Even if
someone told you how he cheated in his exam. You can't do anything. He
could say he was just telling a lie or a joke.

The Microsoft Certified Partners need employees pass exams to get
completence or Gold Certified Partner status. The Microsoft Certified
Trainers need to pass exams to teach new courses. Unfortunately, Microsoft
Certified Partners and Trainers can hold their own test centers (either
using the same company name or create a dummy company) to meet their goals
easily. What can you do about that?







> Anonymous Reader wrote:
> > Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's
exam
> > data to produce those B***D****(TM).
> >
> > From my own exprience:
> >
>
> I'd like to request that you forward the details of these experiences to
> Certguard. Locations of test centers, specific dates, etc. I think you
> can rely on their confidentiality, but you can remain anonymous if you
like.
>
> Certguard, I think you should forward this info to your guys at MS,
> don't you? Why don't you let ol' anonymous know how he can send it to
> you. Is the newsgroupsATcertguardDOTcom a monitored addy?
>
> --
> JaR
>
> Remove hat to reply

Thanks JaR, yes it is a monitored addy. This is definitely something I need to
follow up on as soon as possible. If what Mr Anon. is saying is true, then we
have lots of work to take care of with T/P.

Anonymous Reader, please send me any information you can to
newsgroups<AT>certguard<dot>com.

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"JaR" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Anonymous Reader wrote:
>> Repost: the first reply was filtered, may be because of some keywords.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds like there is an underground network of capturing test taker's exam
>> data to produce those B***D****(TM).
>>
>> From my own exprience:
>>
>
> I'd like to request that you forward the details of these experiences to
> Certguard. Locations of test centers, specific dates, etc. I think you can
> rely on their confidentiality, but you can remain anonymous if you like.
>
> Certguard, I think you should forward this info to your guys at MS, don't you?
> Why don't you let ol' anonymous know how he can send it to you. Is the
> newsgroupsATcertguardDOTcom a monitored addy?
>
> --
> JaR
>
> Remove hat to reply