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Hi All,

I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few weeks
(first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the old
track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are already
using 2005 beta framework at my current job.

If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months I
would skip the mcad/mcsd.

What you should do is to get the
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution Architectures

That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".


Best regards Björn Olsson
Head of Technology
Centre for Business Solutions
Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
University of Göteborg
Department of Business and Administration
PO BOX 610
SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
P: +46317732767
C: +46708630872
F: +46317734754



"Joe" wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few weeks
> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the old
> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are already
> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
>
>
>

Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester next
year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?

Gustavo.

"Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
> If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months I
> would skip the mcad/mcsd.
>
> What you should do is to get the
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
> Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution Architectures
>
> That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
>
>
> Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
> Head of Technology
> Centre for Business Solutions
> Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> University of G?teborg
> Department of Business and Administration
> PO BOX 610
> SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
> P: +46317732767
> C: +46708630872
> F: +46317734754
>
>
>
> "Joe" wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
>> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few weeks
>> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the old
>> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are already
>> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
>>
>>
>>

Microsoft is starting up a new certification program for visual studio 2005.
the mcsd/mcad will become retired.

For more inormation look at microsoft.com->learning tools

"Gustavo Ringel" wrote:

> Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester next
> year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?
>
> Gustavo.
>
> "Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
> > If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months I
> > would skip the mcad/mcsd.
> >
> > What you should do is to get the
> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
> > Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution Architectures
> >
> > That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
> >
> >
> > Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
> > Head of Technology
> > Centre for Business Solutions
> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> > University of G?teborg
> > Department of Business and Administration
> > PO BOX 610
> > SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
> > P: +46317732767
> > C: +46708630872
> > F: +46317734754
> >
> >
> >
> > "Joe" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
> >> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few weeks
> >> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the old
> >> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are already
> >> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

The exams will not be retired until mid-2007. BTW, why give yourself reason
to play video game because you are waiting for the next exam?
If you understand the basic stuff, you should be able to finish MCSD within
a year by studying the MS press.
Egghead

"Björn Olsson" <> wrote in message
news:53226EAD-4048-4692-99D5-...
> Microsoft is starting up a new certification program for visual studio
> 2005.
> the mcsd/mcad will become retired.
>
> For more inormation look at microsoft.com->learning tools
>
> "Gustavo Ringel" wrote:
>
>> Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester
>> next
>> year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?
>>
>> Gustavo.
>>
>> "Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
>> news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
>> > If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months
>> > I
>> > would skip the mcad/mcsd.
>> >
>> > What you should do is to get the
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
>> > Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
>> > Architectures
>> >
>> > That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
>> > Head of Technology
>> > Centre for Business Solutions
>> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
>> > University of G?teborg
>> > Department of Business and Administration
>> > PO BOX 610
>> > SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
>> > P: +46317732767
>> > C: +46708630872
>> > F: +46317734754
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Joe" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
>> >> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few
>> >> weeks
>> >> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the
>> >> old
>> >> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are
>> >> already
>> >> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

You have a point but there are many other interesting areas that you can aim
at.
CISSP for instance.

//B
--
Best regards Björn Olsson
Head of Technology
Centre for Business Solutions
Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law


"EggHead" wrote:

> The exams will not be retired until mid-2007. BTW, why give yourself reason
> to play video game because you are waiting for the next exam?
> If you understand the basic stuff, you should be able to finish MCSD within
> a year by studying the MS press.
> Egghead
>
> "Björn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> news:53226EAD-4048-4692-99D5-...
> > Microsoft is starting up a new certification program for visual studio
> > 2005.
> > the mcsd/mcad will become retired.
> >
> > For more inormation look at microsoft.com->learning tools
> >
> > "Gustavo Ringel" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester
> >> next
> >> year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?
> >>
> >> Gustavo.
> >>
> >> "Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> >> news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
> >> > If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months
> >> > I
> >> > would skip the mcad/mcsd.
> >> >
> >> > What you should do is to get the
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
> >> > Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
> >> > Architectures
> >> >
> >> > That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
> >> > Head of Technology
> >> > Centre for Business Solutions
> >> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> >> > University of G?teborg
> >> > Department of Business and Administration
> >> > PO BOX 610
> >> > SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
> >> > P: +46317732767
> >> > C: +46708630872
> >> > F: +46317734754
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Joe" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi All,
> >> >>
> >> >> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
> >> >> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few
> >> >> weeks
> >> >> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the
> >> >> old
> >> >> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are
> >> >> already
> >> >> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

That's not a developer certification...

"Björn Olsson" wrote:

> You have a point but there are many other interesting areas that you can aim
> at.
> CISSP for instance.
>
> //B
> --
> Best regards Björn Olsson
> Head of Technology
> Centre for Business Solutions
> Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
>
>
> "EggHead" wrote:
>
> > The exams will not be retired until mid-2007. BTW, why give yourself reason
> > to play video game because you are waiting for the next exam?
> > If you understand the basic stuff, you should be able to finish MCSD within
> > a year by studying the MS press.
> > Egghead
> >
> > "Björn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> > news:53226EAD-4048-4692-99D5-...
> > > Microsoft is starting up a new certification program for visual studio
> > > 2005.
> > > the mcsd/mcad will become retired.
> > >
> > > For more inormation look at microsoft.com->learning tools
> > >
> > > "Gustavo Ringel" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester
> > >> next
> > >> year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?
> > >>
> > >> Gustavo.
> > >>
> > >> "Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> > >> news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
> > >> > If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months
> > >> > I
> > >> > would skip the mcad/mcsd.
> > >> >
> > >> > What you should do is to get the
> > >> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
> > >> > Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
> > >> > Architectures
> > >> >
> > >> > That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
> > >> > Head of Technology
> > >> > Centre for Business Solutions
> > >> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> > >> > University of G?teborg
> > >> > Department of Business and Administration
> > >> > PO BOX 610
> > >> > SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
> > >> > P: +46317732767
> > >> > C: +46708630872
> > >> > F: +46317734754
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "Joe" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi All,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
> > >> >> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few
> > >> >> weeks
> > >> >> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the
> > >> >> old
> > >> >> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are
> > >> >> already
> > >> >> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

Mr Hunter....
Im well aware of it not beeing a developer certification but as a
consultant/architect the more versatile you are, the better it is. The easier
you can get people to pay for your services and the more you can charge them.

Speaking for my self I am currently MCAD, going for a MCSD before new year.
Looking to conquer CISSP and some MBS certifications after that.

Take care.

--
Best regards Björn Olsson
Head of Technology
Centre for Business Solutions
Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law


"C. Hunter" wrote:

> That's not a developer certification...
>
> "Björn Olsson" wrote:
>
> > You have a point but there are many other interesting areas that you can aim
> > at.
> > CISSP for instance.
> >
> > //B
> > --
> > Best regards Björn Olsson
> > Head of Technology
> > Centre for Business Solutions
> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> >
> >
> > "EggHead" wrote:
> >
> > > The exams will not be retired until mid-2007. BTW, why give yourself reason
> > > to play video game because you are waiting for the next exam?
> > > If you understand the basic stuff, you should be able to finish MCSD within
> > > a year by studying the MS press.
> > > Egghead
> > >
> > > "Björn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> > > news:53226EAD-4048-4692-99D5-...
> > > > Microsoft is starting up a new certification program for visual studio
> > > > 2005.
> > > > the mcsd/mcad will become retired.
> > > >
> > > > For more inormation look at microsoft.com->learning tools
> > > >
> > > > "Gustavo Ringel" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester
> > > >> next
> > > >> year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?
> > > >>
> > > >> Gustavo.
> > > >>
> > > >> "Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> > > >> news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
> > > >> > If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > would skip the mcad/mcsd.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > What you should do is to get the
> > > >> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
> > > >> > Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
> > > >> > Architectures
> > > >> >
> > > >> > That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
> > > >> > Head of Technology
> > > >> > Centre for Business Solutions
> > > >> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> > > >> > University of G?teborg
> > > >> > Department of Business and Administration
> > > >> > PO BOX 610
> > > >> > SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
> > > >> > P: +46317732767
> > > >> > C: +46708630872
> > > >> > F: +46317734754
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Joe" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi All,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
> > > >> >> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few
> > > >> >> weeks
> > > >> >> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the
> > > >> >> old
> > > >> >> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are
> > > >> >> already
> > > >> >> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >

I am MCAD and the reason I have decided not to go MCSD is becuase I didnt
take a "server" exam as an elective. Naturally the choice would be SQL
Server. However with 2.0 SQL and .Net platform itself is more intergrated and
it seems to me a waste of learning.

"Björn Olsson" wrote:

> Mr Hunter....
> Im well aware of it not beeing a developer certification but as a
> consultant/architect the more versatile you are, the better it is. The easier
> you can get people to pay for your services and the more you can charge them.
>
> Speaking for my self I am currently MCAD, going for a MCSD before new year.
> Looking to conquer CISSP and some MBS certifications after that.
>
> Take care.
>
> --
> Best regards Björn Olsson
> Head of Technology
> Centre for Business Solutions
> Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
>
>
> "C. Hunter" wrote:
>
> > That's not a developer certification...
> >
> > "Björn Olsson" wrote:
> >
> > > You have a point but there are many other interesting areas that you can aim
> > > at.
> > > CISSP for instance.
> > >
> > > //B
> > > --
> > > Best regards Björn Olsson
> > > Head of Technology
> > > Centre for Business Solutions
> > > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> > >
> > >
> > > "EggHead" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The exams will not be retired until mid-2007. BTW, why give yourself reason
> > > > to play video game because you are waiting for the next exam?
> > > > If you understand the basic stuff, you should be able to finish MCSD within
> > > > a year by studying the MS press.
> > > > Egghead
> > > >
> > > > "Björn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:53226EAD-4048-4692-99D5-...
> > > > > Microsoft is starting up a new certification program for visual studio
> > > > > 2005.
> > > > > the mcsd/mcad will become retired.
> > > > >
> > > > > For more inormation look at microsoft.com->learning tools
> > > > >
> > > > > "Gustavo Ringel" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester
> > > > >> next
> > > > >> year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Gustavo.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
> > > > >> > If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months
> > > > >> > I
> > > > >> > would skip the mcad/mcsd.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > What you should do is to get the
> > > > >> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
> > > > >> > Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
> > > > >> > Architectures
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
> > > > >> > Head of Technology
> > > > >> > Centre for Business Solutions
> > > > >> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> > > > >> > University of G?teborg
> > > > >> > Department of Business and Administration
> > > > >> > PO BOX 610
> > > > >> > SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
> > > > >> > P: +46317732767
> > > > >> > C: +46708630872
> > > > >> > F: +46317734754
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > "Joe" wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Hi All,
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
> > > > >> >> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few
> > > > >> >> weeks
> > > > >> >> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the
> > > > >> >> old
> > > > >> >> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are
> > > > >> >> already
> > > > >> >> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Here is my view.

Kind of depends on how many exams you already have toward MCAD but I have
done some reading on 2.0 so here is my view on this subject.

If you are not going to be looking for new work before mid 2006 I think it
will serve you much better in the long run to study everything you can on 2.0
instead. Its not a radical upgrade but it is pretty massive.

Imagine walking into a new possible job knowing that ASP.NET 2.0
automatically renders controls for mobile devices without nearly no code at
all. Once I read a chapter on that I could help but think of how many jobs
will be lost becuase of that one feature alone.

ASP.NET 2.0 has so many new massive features it like they are throwing in
the towel on web apps for the more perfered future of desktop apps accessing
SOA


"Gustavo Ringel" wrote:

> Hi I'm planning to finish the exams for MCAD after the second semester next
> year...can you explain why do you think is better to skip this?
>
> Gustavo.
>
> "Bj?rn Olsson" <> wrote in message
> news:E5180BBD-4B93-4B77-BCFA-...
> > If your not planning on getting all the certs in the upcomming 6 months I
> > would skip the mcad/mcsd.
> >
> > What you should do is to get the
> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-300.asp
> > Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution Architectures
> >
> > That looks good and can be considerd a "warm up".
> >
> >
> > Best regards Bj?rn Olsson
> > Head of Technology
> > Centre for Business Solutions
> > Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law
> > University of G?teborg
> > Department of Business and Administration
> > PO BOX 610
> > SE-405 30 Gothenburg Sweden
> > P: +46317732767
> > C: +46708630872
> > F: +46317734754
> >
> >
> >
> > "Joe" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I read alot of posts regarding upgrade to 2005 and so on, but what if
> >> someone is starting now? Should I write my 70-315 in the next few weeks
> >> (first exam), or obtain the 2005 study material and forget about the old
> >> track? I just want the cert to look good on the resume and we are already
> >> using 2005 beta framework at my current job.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>