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I have a very large project that would take to long to recompile stuff
that does not need to be recompiled. For various reasons using ANT
is not possible (doesn't play well enough with other languages). I
looked into Jikes but that is no good because our code is 1.5+. I
tried javac with -g:none and -server and had no improvement at all.
Is there any other way to speed stuff up and still compile things one
class at a time?

On Jan 2, 1:05*am, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have a very large project that would take to long to recompile stuff
> that does not need to be recompiled. * For various reasons using ANT
> is not possible (doesn't play well enough with other languages). *I
> looked into Jikes but that is no good because our code is 1.5+. * I
> tried javac with -g:none and -server and had no improvement at all.
> Is there any other way to speed stuff up and still compile things one
> class at a time?

Maybe use Make? Or compile only the Java parts with ANT, but use
something else for the rest of the code that ANT is causing you
problems with?

HTH,
Jason

On Jan 2, 1:36*am, JC <jason.cipri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 1:05*am, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have a very large project that would take to long to recompile stuff
> > that does not need to be recompiled. * For various reasons using ANT
> > is not possible (doesn't play well enough with other languages). *I
> > looked into Jikes but that is no good because our code is 1.5+. * I
> > tried javac with -g:none and -server and had no improvement at all.
> > Is there any other way to speed stuff up and still compile things one
> > class at a time?
>
> Maybe use Make? Or compile only the Java parts with ANT, but use
> something else for the rest of the code that ANT is causing you
> problems with?
>
> HTH,
> Jason

I use cook which is much smarter then make and subtasking to an other
build program would ruin many of the best features of cook such as
full project scanning.

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> I have a very large project that would take to long to recompile
> stuff
> that does not need to be recompiled. For various reasons using ANT
> is not possible (doesn't play well enough with other languages). I
> looked into Jikes but that is no good because our code is 1.5+. I
> tried javac with -g:none and -server and had no improvement at all.
> Is there any other way to speed stuff up and still compile things
> one
> class at a time?

If ANT's minimal dependency management is sufficient for your project,
it wouldn't be difficult to write a Java program that reproduces it
and could be called from any make-like build system. In fact, you'd
only have to slightly modify the code that ANT's javac task uses.

On Jan 2, 2:01*am, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> > I have a very large project that would take to long to recompile
> > stuff
> > that does not need to be recompiled. * For various reasons using ANT
> > is not possible (doesn't play well enough with other languages). *I
> > looked into Jikes but that is no good because our code is 1.5+. * I
> > tried javac with -g:none and -server and had no improvement at all.
> > Is there any other way to speed stuff up and still compile things
> > one
> > class at a time?
>
> If ANT's minimal dependency management is sufficient for your project,
> it wouldn't be difficult to write a Java program that reproduces it
> and could be called from any make-like build system. *In fact, you'd
> only have to slightly modify the code that ANT's javac task uses.

I already did this to some extent when it selects what to compile (I
wrote a little program to scan imports to make this decision)... yes I
know it is a little dumb since it needs an explicit import for
everything with no wild cards.

On Jan 2, 5:05*pm, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have a very large project that would take to long ...

Idea. Get a faster box or be more patient.

--
Andrew Thompson
http://pscode.org/

On Jan 2, 5:33*am, Andrew Thompson <andrewtho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 5:05*pm, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have a very large project that would take to long ...
>
> Idea. *Get a faster box or be more patient.
>
> --
> Andrew Thompsonhttp://pscode.org/

Not to bragging but quad core running at 2.58 GHz and 4 GB of RAM with
a sata 300 drive should be enough... and as far as patience goes I
think 5 mins to recompile for a 1 one line change is insane
(exspecially when we do this on a quite regular basis [say 20 times an
hour])

On Jan 2, 5:42*am, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jan 2, 5:33*am, Andrew Thompson <andrewtho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 2, 5:05*pm, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I have a very large project that would take to long ...
>
> > Idea. *Get a faster box or be more patient.
>
> > --
> > Andrew Thompsonhttp://pscode.org/
>
> Not to bragging but quad core running at 2.58 GHz and 4 GB of RAM with
> a sata 300 drive should be enough... and as far as patience goes I
> think 5 mins to recompile for a 1 one line change is insane
> (exspecially when we do this on a quite regular basis [say 20 times an
> hour])

Forgot to mention without the import scanner I mentioned it is 45 mins
(that is with javac `find . -name '*.java'` not compiling one at a
time I never bothered to time that but it would likely be well over 2
hrs

On Jan 2, 9:42*pm, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jan 2, 5:33*am, Andrew Thompson <andrewtho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 2, 5:05*pm, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I have a very large project that would take to long ...
>
> > Idea. *Get a faster box or be more patient.
>
> > --
> > Andrew Thompsonhttp://pscode.org/
>
> Not to bragging ..

While you are 'not bragging' please don't forget
to trim sigs. from replies. Not all of us have
broadband-on-demand. TIA.

--
Andrew Thompson
http://pscode.org/

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> On Jan 2, 5:33 am, Andrew Thompson <andrewtho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 2, 5:05 pm, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <Aryeh.Fried...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a very large project that would take to long ...
>> Idea. Get a faster box or be more patient.
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Thompsonhttp://pscode.org/
>
> Not to bragging but quad core running at 2.58 GHz and 4 GB of RAM with
> a sata 300 drive should be enough... and as far as patience goes I
> think 5 mins to recompile for a 1 one line change is insane
> (exspecially when we do this on a quite regular basis [say 20 times an
> hour])

That does indeed sound insane. How can javac's speed be an issue? Do you
have a single .java file containing a titanic amount of code? Are you
asking javac to compile .java files that don't need compiling? (if so why?)

Either you are doing something rather unusual or my knowledge of Java is
incomplete in some interesting way - please enlighten me.

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