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      05-13-2005
I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router. I also have
an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the desktops, I
can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see no
machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet, email, etc. but
cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.

Thanks
 
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      05-15-2005
This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To use the
wireless router as an Access Point you need to

1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside the
DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41 and
the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.

See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if needed.
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"kingpin68" <> wrote in message
news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
>I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router. I also
>have
> an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
> basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the desktops,
> I
> can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see no
> machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet, email, etc.
> but
> cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>
> Thanks



 
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      05-16-2005
I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.

I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any effect?

"GTS" wrote:

> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To use the
> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>
> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside the
> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41 and
> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>
> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if needed.
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router. I also
> >have
> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the desktops,
> > I
> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see no
> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet, email, etc.
> > but
> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >
> > Thanks

>
>
>

 
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      05-16-2005
That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet. From the laptop can
you ping the desktops? If so, can you view them if you run //desktopname?
--

"kingpin68" <> wrote in message
news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-...
>I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>
> I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> effect?
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To use the
>> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>>
>> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside
>> the
>> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
>> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
>> and
>> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>>
>> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
>> needed.
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
>> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router. I also
>> >have
>> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
>> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the
>> > desktops,
>> > I
>> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see
>> > no
>> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet, email,
>> > etc.
>> > but
>> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >
>> > Thanks

>>
>>
>>



 
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      05-16-2005
All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops via the
laptop. I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.

"GTS" wrote:

> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet. From the laptop can
> you ping the desktops? If so, can you view them if you run //desktopname?
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-...
> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >
> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> > effect?
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To use the
> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >>
> >> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside
> >> the
> >> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
> >> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
> >> and
> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >>
> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
> >> needed.
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router. I also
> >> >have
> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the
> >> > desktops,
> >> > I
> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see
> >> > no
> >> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet, email,
> >> > etc.
> >> > but
> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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      05-16-2005
The fact that you can ping them is good. re. the other item 0

Click Start then Run. In the Open box type \\netname That's 2
backslashes and the network name of the other computer. It will either open
an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will report an error code
which will be helpful.
--

"kingpin68" <> wrote in message
news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-...
> All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops via
> the
> laptop. I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet. From the laptop can
>> you ping the desktops? If so, can you view them if you run
>> //desktopname?
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-...
>> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>> >
>> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
>> > effect?
>> >
>> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To use
>> >> the
>> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>> >>
>> >> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
>> >> outside
>> >> the
>> >> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
>> >> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> >> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
>> >> and
>> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>> >>
>> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
>> >> needed.
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
>> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router. I
>> >> >also
>> >> >have
>> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
>> >> > BEFSR41,
>> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the
>> >> > desktops,
>> >> > I
>> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can
>> >> > see
>> >> > no
>> >> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet, email,
>> >> > etc.
>> >> > but
>> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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      05-16-2005
I receive the following:

\\penguins1

The network path was not found.

I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.

"GTS" wrote:

> The fact that you can ping them is good. re. the other item 0
>
> Click Start then Run. In the Open box type \\netname That's 2
> backslashes and the network name of the other computer. It will either open
> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will report an error code
> which will be helpful.
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-...
> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops via
> > the
> > laptop. I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet. From the laptop can
> >> you ping the desktops? If so, can you view them if you run
> >> //desktopname?
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-...
> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >> >
> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> >> > effect?
> >> >
> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To use
> >> >> the
> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
> >> >> outside
> >> >> the
> >> >> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
> >> >> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> >> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
> >> >> and
> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >> >>
> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
> >> >> needed.
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router. I
> >> >> >also
> >> >> >have
> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
> >> >> > BEFSR41,
> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the
> >> >> > desktops,
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet, email,
> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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      05-16-2005
If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer name
what happens?
Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
--

"kingpin68" <> wrote in message
news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-...
>I receive the following:
>
> \\penguins1
>
> The network path was not found.
>
> I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> The fact that you can ping them is good. re. the other item 0
>>
>> Click Start then Run. In the Open box type \\netname That's 2
>> backslashes and the network name of the other computer. It will either
>> open
>> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will report an error
>> code
>> which will be helpful.
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-...
>> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops
>> > via
>> > the
>> > laptop. I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
>> >
>> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet. From the laptop
>> >> can
>> >> you ping the desktops? If so, can you view them if you run
>> >> //desktopname?
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-...
>> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
>> >> > effect?
>> >> >
>> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To
>> >> >> use
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
>> >> >> outside
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
>> >> >> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> >> >> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the
>> >> >> BEFSR41
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
>> >> >> needed.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
>> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.
>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >also
>> >> >> >have
>> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
>> >> >> > BEFSR41,
>> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the
>> >> >> > desktops,
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > see
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet,
>> >> >> > email,
>> >> >> > etc.
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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      05-16-2005
Using the IP nets the same results.

Yes, I do have Zone Labs running on the laptop, shutting it down and I can
now view the other machines and map a printer. What on the firewall do I
need to remove, etc?

"GTS" wrote:

> If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer name
> what happens?
> Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-...
> >I receive the following:
> >
> > \\penguins1
> >
> > The network path was not found.
> >
> > I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> The fact that you can ping them is good. re. the other item 0
> >>
> >> Click Start then Run. In the Open box type \\netname That's 2
> >> backslashes and the network name of the other computer. It will either
> >> open
> >> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will report an error
> >> code
> >> which will be helpful.
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> >> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-...
> >> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops
> >> > via
> >> > the
> >> > laptop. I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
> >> >
> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet. From the laptop
> >> >> can
> >> >> you ping the desktops? If so, can you view them if you run
> >> >> //desktopname?
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> >> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-...
> >> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> >> >> > effect?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To
> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
> >> >> >> outside
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
> >> >> >> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> >> >> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the
> >> >> >> BEFSR41
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
> >> >> >> needed.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
> >> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.
> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >also
> >> >> >> >have
> >> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
> >> >> >> > BEFSR41,
> >> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of the
> >> >> >> > desktops,
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I
> >> >> >> > can
> >> >> >> > see
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet,
> >> >> >> > email,
> >> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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      05-17-2005
Wish I'd thought to ask that sooner You can add the IP addresses of the
2 desktops to the trusted zone in Zone Alarm.
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"kingpin68" <> wrote in message
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> Using the IP nets the same results.
>
> Yes, I do have Zone Labs running on the laptop, shutting it down and I can
> now view the other machines and map a printer. What on the firewall do I
> need to remove, etc?
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer
>> name
>> what happens?
>> Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-...
>> >I receive the following:
>> >
>> > \\penguins1
>> >
>> > The network path was not found.
>> >
>> > I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
>> >
>> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The fact that you can ping them is good. re. the other item 0
>> >>
>> >> Click Start then Run. In the Open box type \\netname That's 2
>> >> backslashes and the network name of the other computer. It will
>> >> either
>> >> open
>> >> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will report an
>> >> error
>> >> code
>> >> which will be helpful.
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-...
>> >> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the
>> >> > desktops
>> >> > via
>> >> > the
>> >> > laptop. I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try,
>> >> > sorry.
>> >> >
>> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet. From the
>> >> >> laptop
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> you ping the desktops? If so, can you view them if you run
>> >> >> //desktopname?
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-...
>> >> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > effect?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way. To
>> >> >> >> use
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1. Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
>> >> >> >> outside
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> DHCP range of the BEFSR41.
>> >> >> >> 2. Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> >> >> >> 3. Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the
>> >> >> >> BEFSR41
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail
>> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> needed.
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-...
>> >> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41
>> >> >> >> >router.
>> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >also
>> >> >> >> >have
>> >> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
>> >> >> >> > BEFSR41,
>> >> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point. From either of
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > desktops,
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > see
>> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> > machines in the workgroup. The laptop can hit the internet,
>> >> >> >> > email,
>> >> >> >> > etc.
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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