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DRS
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      12-19-2008
"Stephen Bishop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> However, regardless of camera types or style of photography, forums
> such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of "my camera is
> better than yours" kinds of things. This has been true for decades,
> even before Al Gore invented the internet.


Another urban myth. He never said that.


 
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      12-19-2008
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> DRS added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>
>> "Stephen Bishop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> However, regardless of camera types or style of photography,
>>> forums such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of
>>> "my camera is better than yours" kinds of things. This has
>>> been true for decades, even before Al Gore invented the
>>> internet.

>>
>> Another urban myth. He never said that.
>>

> He didn't make an actual quote to that effect, but the Head Green
> Nazi DID take credit for the Internet's success in a number of
> speeches and interviews during the two Clinton campaigns and
> while VP. Gore is an empty suit who has no credible technical


Gore's actual claim, supported by no less an Internet luminary thant Vince
Cerf, was "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward
a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our
country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our
educational system." See http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp.

> education, training or ability yet people continue to bow down to
> him as if he were the god of technology. If the Far Left Loons
> attempt to force our great country down the road that Gore wants
> them to, as do Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, and Babara Boxer to
> name just a few, your electricity rates with quadruple, vehicle
> CAFE will rise to 50, maybe 60 mpg effectively legislating
> anything but city cars out of existance, and we'll revert to the
> Socialst ideas on energy that France has which mandates that
> people provide a percentage of their own through renewable means
> and that people have a quota to meet to reduce their energy year
> over year. Gore, Obama, and the rest of the Green Nazis really
> aren't interested in saving the planet, it they did, they'd
> listen more to scientists who truly understand the problems.


He is listening to the scientists. It is a shame you clearly are not.
Climatologists have been concerned about anthropegenically caused global
warming for over fifty years. The studies in the peer reviewed literature
are overwhelming in their conclusions. Next you'll be denying evolution.

> Instead, what these clown are about is power - power over you,
> power to conduct social engineering using money derived by wealth
> redistribution. Some call this Socialism or Marxism while others
> call it Fascism, it is really both.


Denying reality is no way to preserve liberty. Humans have created the
current climate change. Humans can and should do something about it.


 
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      12-19-2008
DRS wrote:
> "Stephen Bishop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> [...]
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>> However, regardless of camera types or style of photography, forums
>> such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of "my camera
>> is
>> better than yours" kinds of things. This has been true for
>> decades,
>> even before Al Gore invented the internet.

>
> Another urban myth. He never said that.


You're quibbling over a word.

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      12-19-2008
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> DRS wrote:
>> "Stephen Bishop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> However, regardless of camera types or style of photography, forums
>>> such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of "my camera
>>> is
>>> better than yours" kinds of things. This has been true for
>>> decades,
>>> even before Al Gore invented the internet.

>>
>> Another urban myth. He never said that.

>
> You're quibbling over a word.


More than one word. Read the article I linked to.


 
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      12-19-2008
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:57:33 +1100, "DRS" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>"HEMI-Powered" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:Xns9B79452CA3657ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30
>> DRS added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>>
>>> "Stephen Bishop" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> However, regardless of camera types or style of photography,
>>>> forums such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of
>>>> "my camera is better than yours" kinds of things. This has
>>>> been true for decades, even before Al Gore invented the
>>>> internet.
>>>
>>> Another urban myth. He never said that.
>>>

>> He didn't make an actual quote to that effect, but the Head Green
>> Nazi DID take credit for the Internet's success in a number of
>> speeches and interviews during the two Clinton campaigns and
>> while VP. Gore is an empty suit who has no credible technical

>
>Gore's actual claim, supported by no less an Internet luminary thant Vince
>Cerf, was "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the
>initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward
>a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our
>country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our
>educational system." See http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp.
>
>> education, training or ability yet people continue to bow down to
>> him as if he were the god of technology. If the Far Left Loons
>> attempt to force our great country down the road that Gore wants
>> them to, as do Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, and Babara Boxer to
>> name just a few, your electricity rates with quadruple, vehicle
>> CAFE will rise to 50, maybe 60 mpg effectively legislating
>> anything but city cars out of existance, and we'll revert to the
>> Socialst ideas on energy that France has which mandates that
>> people provide a percentage of their own through renewable means
>> and that people have a quota to meet to reduce their energy year
>> over year. Gore, Obama, and the rest of the Green Nazis really
>> aren't interested in saving the planet, it they did, they'd
>> listen more to scientists who truly understand the problems.

>
>He is listening to the scientists. It is a shame you clearly are not.
>Climatologists have been concerned about anthropegenically caused global
>warming for over fifty years.


Bullshit. Twenty years ago they were worried about cooling.

>The studies in the peer reviewed literature
>are overwhelming in their conclusions. Next you'll be denying evolution.


See http://www.heartland.org/custom/semo.../pdf/22835.pdf
>
>> Instead, what these clown are about is power - power over you,
>> power to conduct social engineering using money derived by wealth
>> redistribution. Some call this Socialism or Marxism while others
>> call it Fascism, it is really both.

>
>Denying reality is no way to preserve liberty. Humans have created the
>current climate change. Humans can and should do something about it.
>




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      12-21-2008
"Eric Stevens" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> He is listening to the scientists. It is a shame you clearly are
>> not. Climatologists have been concerned about anthropegenically
>> caused global warming for over fifty years.

>
> Bullshit. Twenty years ago they were worried about cooling.


That myth is not supported in the peer reviewed literature. See
http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/15...-89-9-1325.pdf.

>> The studies in the peer reviewed literature
>> are overwhelming in their conclusions. Next you'll be denying
>> evolution.

>
> See http://www.heartland.org/custom/semo.../pdf/22835.pdf


Ah, Fred Singer, one of the perpetrators and perpetuators of the "but they
were worried about global cooling in the 1970s" myth debunked above,
pretending that the 2,500 scientists of the IPCC and the 192 governmental
representatives (one from every country in the world) that approved the
wording of AR4, are engaged in a giant conspiracy to deprive the world of
SUVs while he and his apolitical colleagues from the tobacco and Big
Oil-funded right-wing think tank, the Heartland Institute, are bravely
speaking out for science. As if.


 
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