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Re: Sipgate Survey

 
 
Philippe Deleye
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      12-13-2008

"Jono" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed). ..

> Just had a call from Paul at Sipgate, "doing a survey to find out what
> softfone I use" !
>

Can't be originating from Sipgate
They know exactly which softphone you use
They know which hardware you use (e.g. FritzBox) and even the Firmware
version ...
If you login with your account details on the sipgate website, you see the
list of ATA's tou are registered with ..

Philippe


 
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Graham.
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      12-13-2008


"Philippe Deleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:49440656$0$2860$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Jono" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>
>> Just had a call from Paul at Sipgate, "doing a survey to find out what
>> softfone I use" !
>>

> Can't be originating from Sipgate


Why can't it be them?


> They know exactly which softphone you use
> They know which hardware you use (e.g. FritzBox) and even the Firmware
> version ...
> If you login with your account details on the sipgate website, you see the
> list of ATA's tou are registered with ..
>
> Philippe



That doesn't preclude them lying as to the reason for their call.


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


 
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Ivor Jones
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      12-14-2008
In news:gi13o1$6rn$(E-Mail Removed),
Graham. <(E-Mail Removed)> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:
: "Philippe Deleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:49440656$0$2860$(E-Mail Removed)...
: >
: > "Jono" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: > news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
: >
: >> Just had a call from Paul at Sipgate, "doing a survey to find out
: >> what softfone I use" !
: >>
: > Can't be originating from Sipgate
:
: Why can't it be them?

For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not possible
to withhold your number. Setting withheld on the website only works to
PSTN numbers.


Ivor

 
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Chris Davies
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      12-14-2008
Ivor Jones <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not possible
> to withhold your number.


Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR one
that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people to be
able to withhold their number.)

Chris
 
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Ivor Jones
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      12-14-2008
In news:(E-Mail Removed),
Chris Davies <(E-Mail Removed)> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
: Ivor Jones <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: > For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not
: > possible to withhold your number.
:
: Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR
: one that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people
: to be able to withhold their number.)
:
: Chris

I have no idea. But it's still not possible to withhold your number when
calling one Sipgate number from another. It doesn't really bother me, but
if it's important to you ask Sipgate and let me know what they say

Ivor

 
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Graham.
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      12-14-2008

"Ivor Jones" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In news:(E-Mail Removed),
> Chris Davies <(E-Mail Removed)> typed, for some strange,
> unexplained reason:
> : Ivor Jones <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> : > For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not
> : > possible to withhold your number.
> :
> : Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR
> : one that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people
> : to be able to withhold their number.)
> :
> : Chris
>
> I have no idea. But it's still not possible to withhold your number when
> calling one Sipgate number from another. It doesn't really bother me, but
> if it's important to you ask Sipgate and let me know what they say
>
> Ivor


I'm not an expert by any means, but if it's end-to-end SIP, wouldn't
the SIP address of the originator be in the SIP message, and in the
case of Sipgate isn't that [6 digit id]@sipgate.co.uk?
--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


 
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mymail@hotmail.co.uk
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      12-14-2008
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:53:28 +0000, Chris Davies
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Ivor Jones <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not possible
>> to withhold your number.

>
>Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR one
>that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people to be
>able to withhold their number.)

Correct but Sipgate thinks they are totally above the law of any land
and can do just whatever they wish with customers ,of all the
companies in the world being driven under due to the credit crunch
Sipgate should be the next to go .
 
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Ivor Jones
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      12-14-2008
In news:(E-Mail Removed),
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:53:28 +0000, Chris Davies
: <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
:
: >Ivor Jones <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: >> For a start, calling from one Sipgate number to another it's not
: >> possible to withhold your number.
: >
: >Isn't that half of one of these EU privacy directive thingies? (ISTR
: >one that mandated anonymous call rejection and also requiring people
: >to be able to withhold their number.)
: Correct but Sipgate thinks they are totally above the law of any land
: and can do just whatever they wish with customers ,of all the
: companies in the world being driven under due to the credit crunch
: Sipgate should be the next to go .

Yes Ron.

Yawn..............


Ivor

 
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Ivor Jones
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      12-14-2008
In news:gi3nuj$l7s$(E-Mail Removed),
Graham. <(E-Mail Removed)> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:

[snip]

: I'm not an expert by any means, but if it's end-to-end SIP, wouldn't
: the SIP address of the originator be in the SIP message, and in the
: case of Sipgate isn't that [6 digit id]@sipgate.co.uk?

Yes you're right, that could explain it.

Ivor

 
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mymail@hotmail.co.uk
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      12-15-2008
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:06:08 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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