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On Nov 30, 7:31*am, Neredbojias <neredboj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2008, shapper <mdmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, the web site I work on fully validates HTML and CSS. I always
> > check my code ...
>
> > The reason of this post was more knowing if when an id is redundant if
> > people put it anyway or if only add id's when needed for selectors or
> > javascript.
>
> > I needed a second opinion because I was getting a lot of redundant
> > id's and because of it I needed to have many long CSS styles names ...
>
> > Thanks,
> > Miguel
>
> Putting ids on _all_ tags would be overkill. *I believe Jukka's point that
> putting them on important tags to assist users who choose to employ user
> style sheets might be perinent but then you have to decide which tags are
> important and which are not. *The vast majority of pagemakers assign ids
> only when they need to.
>
I agree with this, the way I do it is to have an ID for the main parts
of the page, the header, navigation etc. Then I just use other classes
and ID's where needed. The OP in his / her code example could just
style the IDs, the extra classes would be redundent.
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On 29 Nov 2008, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox->
wrote:

>> > I needed a second opinion because I was getting a lot of redundant
>> > id's and because of it I needed to have many long CSS styles names
>> > ...
>> Putting ids on _all_ tags would be overkill. *I believe Jukka's
>> point t
> hat
>> putting them on important tags to assist users who choose to employ
>> user style sheets might be perinent but then you have to decide
>> which tags are important and which are not. *The vast majority of
>> pagemakers assign id
> s
>> only when they need to.
>>
> I agree with this, the way I do it is to have an ID for the main
> parts of the page, the header, navigation etc. Then I just use other
> classes and ID's where needed. The OP in his / her code example could
> just style the IDs, the extra classes would be redundent.

Exactly. Besides the points already mentioned, a trimmer page
undoubtedly works more expediently and there is less of a chance for
screwing something up. Wouldn't it frost you to make a, say, css
mistake in page coding you didn't really need to begin with?

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:34:28 -0800 (PST), shapper <>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I always give an id to all my form elements ...
>
>But what about div's?
>
>When should I give an ID to a div?
>I have many div's with a CSS class but no id ... Is there a problem
>about it?
>
>Thanks,.
>Miguel


What's an ID? I rarely use one.

On 01 Dec 2008, richard <> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:34:28 -0800 (PST), shapper <>
> wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I always give an id to all my form elements ...
>>
>>But what about div's?
>>
>>When should I give an ID to a div?
>>I have many div's with a CSS class but no id ... Is there a problem
>>about it?
>>
>>Thanks,.
>>Miguel
>
>
> What's an ID? I rarely use one.
>
>

It must mean brain.

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Awful Dog Autry wrote:
> On 01 Dec 2008, richard <> wrote:
>
>> What's an ID? I rarely use one.
>
> It must mean brain.

LOL

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In article <>,
richard <> wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:34:28 -0800 (PST), shapper <>
> wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I always give an id to all my form elements ...
> >
> >But what about div's?
> >
> >When should I give an ID to a div?
> >I have many div's with a CSS class but no id ... Is there a problem
> >about it?
> >
> >Thanks,.
> >Miguel
>
>
> What's an ID? I rarely use one.

It's your truck driver's license. Don't tell me you drive without it
sometimes?

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On 28 Nov, 18:34, shapper <mdmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When should I give an ID to a div?
> I have many div's with a CSS class but no id ... Is there a problem
> about it?

Use an id if you're planning to try and find it from JavaScript.

For CSS work, use class in preference.

You don't _need_ either, unless you know that you need them, or you
think you might need them pretty soon (if you're writing HTML first,
then trying to style it). It's certainly not a mistake or error to not
have them.

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Andy Dingley
<> writing in news:8228853a-5253-4c9c-a982-
:

> On 28 Nov, 18:34, shapper <mdmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When should I give an ID to a div?
>> I have many div's with a CSS class but no id ... Is there a problem
>> about it?
>
> Use an id if you're planning to try and find it from JavaScript.

Or if you want to give the ability to link to a fragment - eg.
mypets.html#cats - <h2 id="cats">Cats</h2>

>
> For CSS work, use class in preference.

I don't know about that. I style elements, and use ID for certain
parts, eg. #content, #nav, #header, #footer, all the "structural" parts
of a document, and then I use classes to apply "attributes" to those
ids.

>
> You don't _need_ either, unless you know that you need them, or you
> think you might need them pretty soon (if you're writing HTML first,
> then trying to style it). It's certainly not a mistake or error to not
> have them.
>

Agreed.

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