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I feel bad writing this because FF has *always* performed flawlessly for me
since I installed its first release years ago.

But I am having repeated crashing, one after another while just changing
some of the 'options' settings! No tabs even open.

In the 'Tools > options > Set Tab Mix Plus' screen about showing multiple
levels of tabs when there are too many open for a single line (rarely, if
ever, do I open that many but just in case...) EVERY time I went to set the
number of levels from the default '3' down to '2' FF crashed. I mean EVERY
time about 4-5 times in a row!

This is nuts.

I had written about messed up performance with the 'Beatnik' RSS reader the
other night. I didn't really expect help on a specific add-on but it was
having some miserable opening new tabs problems.

I don't want Beatnik to get the blame 'cause it seems the program was OK,
just that FF has seemed "buggy" lately and the reason for this UNSTABLE
post. I fiddled with the tab opening settings a bunch (and had some crashes
there, too...) and finally got Beatnik working like before. It was either
my system or FF, itself.

Today I'm leaning towards FF being the culprit. I have never had it act so
unstable and crash constantly. What gives?

I am not giving up because I still feel FF to be the superior browser but
I'd sure like to know if there are excessive problems with this release
(3.0.4 I believe -- the latest). Am I imagining this?

Say it ain't so!!!

Puma wrote:
> I feel bad writing this because FF has *always* performed flawlessly for me
> since I installed its first release years ago.
>
> But I am having repeated crashing, one after another while just changing
> some of the 'options' settings! No tabs even open.
>
> In the 'Tools > options > Set Tab Mix Plus' screen about showing multiple
> levels of tabs when there are too many open for a single line (rarely, if
> ever, do I open that many but just in case...) EVERY time I went to set the
> number of levels from the default '3' down to '2' FF crashed. I mean EVERY
> time about 4-5 times in a row!
>
> This is nuts.
>
> I had written about messed up performance with the 'Beatnik' RSS reader the
> other night. I didn't really expect help on a specific add-on but it was
> having some miserable opening new tabs problems.
>
> I don't want Beatnik to get the blame 'cause it seems the program was OK,
> just that FF has seemed "buggy" lately and the reason for this UNSTABLE
> post. I fiddled with the tab opening settings a bunch (and had some crashes
> there, too...) and finally got Beatnik working like before. It was either
> my system or FF, itself.
>
> Today I'm leaning towards FF being the culprit. I have never had it act so
> unstable and crash constantly. What gives?
>
> I am not giving up because I still feel FF to be the superior browser but
> I'd sure like to know if there are excessive problems with this release
> (3.0.4 I believe -- the latest). Am I imagining this?
>
> Say it ain't so!!!

I don't have a problem with it, so you need to look
elsewhere. Since I don't know what operating system
you're using, I'm going to guess -- windows. If so,
then close FF, then click on the windows start button,
then run and enter:

firefox.exe -safe-mode

this will start FF in safe mode, with all
extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still crash?

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> Puma wrote:
>> I feel bad writing this because FF has
*always* performed flawlessly
>> for me since I installed its first release
years ago.
>>
>> But I am having repeated crashing, one after
another while just
>> changing some of the 'options' settings! No
tabs even open.
>>
>
> I don't have a problem with it, so you need to
look
> elsewhere. Since I don't know what operating
system
> you're using, I'm going to guess -- windows.
If so,
> then close FF, then click on the windows start
button,
> then run and enter:
>
> firefox.exe -safe-mode
>
> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
crash?
>

No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.

I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
poster recommended,as

Puma wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> <>,
> scribbled in
> news:ggpoq1$5ne$:
>
>> Puma wrote:
>>> I feel bad writing this because FF has
> *always* performed flawlessly
>>> for me since I installed its first release
> years ago.
>>> But I am having repeated crashing, one after
> another while just
>>> changing some of the 'options' settings! No
> tabs even open.
>> I don't have a problem with it, so you need to
> look
>> elsewhere. Since I don't know what operating
> system
>> you're using, I'm going to guess -- windows.
> If so,
>> then close FF, then click on the windows start
> button,
>> then run and enter:
>>
>> firefox.exe -safe-mode
>>
>> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
>> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
> crash?
>
> No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
> in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.
>
> I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
> poster recommended,as
>

no, don't do that. Instead, close FF, then click on
the windows start button, then run and enter:

firefox.exe -p

this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test
profile and see if FF crashes in that.

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<>, scribbled in news:ggqnhv$k3d
$:

> Puma wrote:
>
>>>
>>> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
>>> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
>> crash?
>>
>> No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
>> in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.
>>
>> I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
>> poster recommended,as
>>
>
> no, don't do that. Instead, close FF, then click on
> the windows start button, then run and enter:
>
> firefox.exe -p
>
> this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test
> profile and see if FF crashes in that.


OK, I did as you recommend. I made up a test profile and then installed
Tab Mix Plus from the add-ons page.

I went to the "display" tab and set the option for multi-line tabs (in
FF) when the tab bar is overloaded and set the number of lines from the
default 3 down to 2 -- which is what I had been trying to do originally
in FF when it kept repeatedly crashing -- and I had no crashes. I had no
bookmarks and/or other extensions or themes, but at least FF didn't
crash.

So I've got a "plain Jane" FF test profile that doesn't crash and my
original one that does. Next?

I appreciate your time and help.

Puma wrote:
> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> <>, scribbled in news:ggqnhv$k3d
> $:
>
>> Puma wrote:
>>
>>>> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
>>>> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
>>> crash?
>>>
>>> No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
>>> in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.
>>>
>>> I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
>>> poster recommended,as
>>>
>> no, don't do that. Instead, close FF, then click on
>> the windows start button, then run and enter:
>>
>> firefox.exe -p
>>
>> this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test
>> profile and see if FF crashes in that.
>
>
> OK, I did as you recommend. I made up a test profile and then installed
> Tab Mix Plus from the add-ons page.
>
> I went to the "display" tab and set the option for multi-line tabs (in
> FF) when the tab bar is overloaded and set the number of lines from the
> default 3 down to 2 -- which is what I had been trying to do originally
> in FF when it kept repeatedly crashing -- and I had no crashes. I had no
> bookmarks and/or other extensions or themes, but at least FF didn't
> crash.
>
> So I've got a "plain Jane" FF test profile that doesn't crash and my
> original one that does. Next?
>
> I appreciate your time and help.

since it didn't crash or anything, then in the other
profile, you have a bad extension. Dissable them all
and re-enable them one at a time until you find the one
thats causing the crashes

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<>, scribbled in
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> Puma wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
>> <>, scribbled in
>> news:ggqnhv$k3d $:
>>
>>> Puma wrote:
>>>
>>>>> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
>>>>> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
>>>> crash?
>>>>
>>>> No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
>>>> in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.
>>>>
>>>> I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
>>>> poster recommended,as
>>>>
>>> no, don't do that. Instead, close FF, then click on
>>> the windows start button, then run and enter:
>>>
>>> firefox.exe -p
>>>
>>> this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test
>>> profile and see if FF crashes in that.
>>
>>
>> OK, I did as you recommend. I made up a test profile and then
>> installed Tab Mix Plus from the add-ons page.
>>
>> I went to the "display" tab and set the option for multi-line tabs
>> (in FF) when the tab bar is overloaded and set the number of lines
>> from the default 3 down to 2 -- which is what I had been trying to do
>> originally in FF when it kept repeatedly crashing -- and I had no
>> crashes. I had no bookmarks and/or other extensions or themes, but at
>> least FF didn't crash.
>>
>> So I've got a "plain Jane" FF test profile that doesn't crash and my
>> original one that does. Next?
>>
>> I appreciate your time and help.
>
> since it didn't crash or anything, then in the other
> profile, you have a bad extension. Dissable them all
> and re-enable them one at a time until you find the one
> thats causing the crashes

Will do and thanks again.

Puma <>, scribbled in
news:Xns9B65A3DB8AF9Apuma0073gmailcom@216.77.188.1 8:

> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
> <>, scribbled in
> news:ggs3dc$igi$:
>
>> Puma wrote:
>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
>>> <>, scribbled in
>>> news:ggqnhv$k3d $:
>>>
>>>> Puma wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
>>>>>> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
>>>>> crash?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
>>>>> in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
>>>>> poster recommended,as
>>>>>
>>>> no, don't do that. Instead, close FF, then click on
>>>> the windows start button, then run and enter:
>>>>
>>>> firefox.exe -p
>>>>
>>>> this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test
>>>> profile and see if FF crashes in that.
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, I did as you recommend. I made up a test profile and then
>>> installed Tab Mix Plus from the add-ons page.
>>>
>>> I went to the "display" tab and set the option for multi-line tabs
>>> (in FF) when the tab bar is overloaded and set the number of lines
>>> from the default 3 down to 2 -- which is what I had been trying to do
>>> originally in FF when it kept repeatedly crashing -- and I had no
>>> crashes. I had no bookmarks and/or other extensions or themes, but at
>>> least FF didn't crash.
>>>
>>> So I've got a "plain Jane" FF test profile that doesn't crash and my
>>> original one that does. Next?
>>>
>>> I appreciate your time and help.
>>
>> since it didn't crash or anything, then in the other
>> profile, you have a bad extension. Dissable them all
>> and re-enable them one at a time until you find the one
>> thats causing the crashes
>
> Will do and thanks again.

I disabled all extensions and Tab Mix Plus would still cause a crash upon
changing the number of lines of tabs in the tab bar with a lot of
extensions open.

But something curious happened -- the default number of lines is 3. I was
changing the number to 2 and it ALWAYS crashed. But when I would try to
change to 4 FF wouldn't crash! I could change up but not down.

Is this the most freaky thing? I'm wondering if this is all something on
my end and not FF at all. At which point you'll be ****ed at me and never
help again! (haha)

So having 3 lines of tabs when there's too many tabs open to fit in one
line ain't so bad. Two would have been OK but I never open that many tabs
at once so it's no big deal. Besides, if I ever do get too many tabs open
and I fill only 2 of 3 possible lines, what's the difference...?

I'm gonna go check some other stuff on my computer for problems -- and it
is Windows XP SP3 as you had deduced earlier.

Thaks again for all your time and help.

Puma wrote on [Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:39:30 GMT]:
> Puma <>, scribbled in
> news:Xns9B65A3DB8AF9Apuma0073gmailcom@216.77.188.1 8:
>
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
>> <>, scribbled in
>> news:ggs3dc$igi$:
>>
>>> Puma wrote:
>>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
>>>> <>, scribbled in
>>>> news:ggqnhv$k3d $:
>>>>
>>>>> Puma wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
>>>>>>> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
>>>>>> crash?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
>>>>>> in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
>>>>>> poster recommended,as
>>>>>>
>>>>> no, don't do that. Instead, close FF, then click on
>>>>> the windows start button, then run and enter:
>>>>>
>>>>> firefox.exe -p
>>>>>
>>>>> this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test
>>>>> profile and see if FF crashes in that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, I did as you recommend. I made up a test profile and then
>>>> installed Tab Mix Plus from the add-ons page.
>>>>
>>>> I went to the "display" tab and set the option for multi-line tabs
>>>> (in FF) when the tab bar is overloaded and set the number of lines
>>>> from the default 3 down to 2 -- which is what I had been trying to do
>>>> originally in FF when it kept repeatedly crashing -- and I had no
>>>> crashes. I had no bookmarks and/or other extensions or themes, but at
>>>> least FF didn't crash.
>>>>
>>>> So I've got a "plain Jane" FF test profile that doesn't crash and my
>>>> original one that does. Next?
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate your time and help.
>>>
>>> since it didn't crash or anything, then in the other
>>> profile, you have a bad extension. Dissable them all
>>> and re-enable them one at a time until you find the one
>>> thats causing the crashes
>>
>> Will do and thanks again.
>
> I disabled all extensions and Tab Mix Plus would still cause a crash upon
> changing the number of lines of tabs in the tab bar with a lot of
> extensions open.
>
> But something curious happened -- the default number of lines is 3. I was
> changing the number to 2 and it ALWAYS crashed. But when I would try to
> change to 4 FF wouldn't crash! I could change up but not down.

After you changed it to 4, did you change it back to 3.

Perhaps the number of lines being 2 is the problem

Justin <>, scribbled in
news::

> Puma wrote on [Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:39:30 GMT]:
>> Puma <>, scribbled in
>> news:Xns9B65A3DB8AF9Apuma0073gmailcom@216.77.188.1 8:
>>
>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
>>> <>, scribbled in
>>> news:ggs3dc$igi$:
>>>
>>>> Puma wrote:
>>>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
>>>>> <>, scribbled in
>>>>> news:ggqnhv$k3d $:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Puma wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this will start FF in safe mode, with all
>>>>>>>> extensions/add-ons disabled. Does it still
>>>>>>> crash?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, but ........ it crashed while making changes
>>>>>>> in "Tab Mix Plus" which is disabled in safe mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try an uninstall and re-install as another
>>>>>>> poster recommended,as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> no, don't do that. Instead, close FF, then click on
>>>>>> the windows start button, then run and enter:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> firefox.exe -p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this will start the FF profile manager. Create a test
>>>>>> profile and see if FF crashes in that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I did as you recommend. I made up a test profile and then
>>>>> installed Tab Mix Plus from the add-ons page.
>>>>>
>>>>> I went to the "display" tab and set the option for multi-line tabs
>>>>> (in FF) when the tab bar is overloaded and set the number of lines
>>>>> from the default 3 down to 2 -- which is what I had been trying to
>>>>> do originally in FF when it kept repeatedly crashing -- and I had
>>>>> no crashes. I had no bookmarks and/or other extensions or themes,
>>>>> but at least FF didn't crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I've got a "plain Jane" FF test profile that doesn't crash and
>>>>> my original one that does. Next?
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate your time and help.
>>>>
>>>> since it didn't crash or anything, then in the other
>>>> profile, you have a bad extension. Dissable them all
>>>> and re-enable them one at a time until you find the one
>>>> thats causing the crashes
>>>
>>> Will do and thanks again.
>>
>> I disabled all extensions and Tab Mix Plus would still cause a crash
>> upon changing the number of lines of tabs in the tab bar with a lot
>> of extensions open.
>>
>> But something curious happened -- the default number of lines is 3. I
>> was changing the number to 2 and it ALWAYS crashed. But when I would
>> try to change to 4 FF wouldn't crash! I could change up but not down.
>
> After you changed it to 4, did you change it back to 3.
>
> Perhaps the number of lines being 2 is the problem

I could change it back and forth from 3 to 4 and back to 3 but ONLY when
I clicked on 2 did I get the error box before I could click on 'apply'.
It crashes quick.