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Old 10-18-2008, 03:10 AM   #1
Default How Can Older Movies Be HD??


Now that I've gone to HD I see lots of older movies on my HD channels.
How does a movie that was made before the HD era now become an HD
movie? Example: "Silence of the Lambs". Looks fabulous in HD but
not sure how they converted it as it wasn't filmed in HD format as the
format didn't yet exist. Very curious on this.


We can't afford 4 more years
of the last 8 years!

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Old 10-18-2008, 03:29 AM   #2
James Sidbury
 
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Judge Pigglesworth <> wrote:

> Now that I've gone to HD I see lots of older movies on my HD channels.
> How does a movie that was made before the HD era now become an HD
> movie? Example: "Silence of the Lambs". Looks fabulous in HD but
> not sure how they converted it as it wasn't filmed in HD format as the
> format didn't yet exist. Very curious on this.
>

It was filmed on ... film, which is much higher def than HD.

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Old 10-18-2008, 05:08 AM   #3
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"Judge Pigglesworth" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Now that I've gone to HD I see lots of older movies on my HD channels.
> How does a movie that was made before the HD era now become an HD
> movie? Example: "Silence of the Lambs". Looks fabulous in HD but
> not sure how they converted it as it wasn't filmed in HD format as the
> format didn't yet exist. Very curious on this.
>
>
> We can't afford 4 more years
> of the last 8 years!
>
> The Semi-Honorable Judge J. P. Pigglesworth, presiding
>


A 35mm celluloid fame is better than HD as long as the negative is properly
exposed and developed and of course archived correctly. Gone With The Wind
(1939) was shot in Technicolor. Initially a two-colour system; it employed a
beam-splitting camera to provide three colour-separation negatives from
which matrices were made for dye transfer.

So many of the great movies of the past can benefit from a HD release. In
some instances they may have to cut back the quality as flaws in the sets
and costumes will start to become apparent as will any rear screen shots. In
addition the is the ability to correct errors frame by frame using computer
aided restoration techniques. However sound recorded in mono will remain
mono unless they re-lay the entire sound track with new sound elements as it
is not possible to extract directional information once it is mixed to mono.
There are fake devices of course that do little but decrease
intelligibility. In a few rare case all the separate original sound elements
have been archived and could be mixed in at least stereo mode.




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Old 10-18-2008, 08:32 AM   #4
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"Judge Pigglesworth" <> wrote in message
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> Now that I've gone to HD I see lots of older movies on my HD channels.
> How does a movie that was made before the HD era now become an HD
> movie? Example: "Silence of the Lambs". Looks fabulous in HD but
> not sure how they converted it as it wasn't filmed in HD format as the
> format didn't yet exist. Very curious on this.





because those movies were not shot on video - they were shot on 35mm film -
they are a big stream of high quality photos.
that 35mm film holds detail and colour levels far superior even to HD - so
that's how.



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Old 10-18-2008, 03:57 PM   #5
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In article <>,
"The dog from that film you saw" <>
wrote:

> "Judge Pigglesworth" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Now that I've gone to HD I see lots of older movies on my HD channels.
> > How does a movie that was made before the HD era now become an HD
> > movie? Example: "Silence of the Lambs". Looks fabulous in HD but
> > not sure how they converted it as it wasn't filmed in HD format as the
> > format didn't yet exist. Very curious on this.

>
>
>
>
> because those movies were not shot on video - they were shot on 35mm film -
> they are a big stream of high quality photos.
> that 35mm film holds detail and colour levels far superior even to HD - so
> that's how.


It's always nice to see an alt.horror regular outside of alt.horror. And
being helpful at that.

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Old 10-18-2008, 04:18 PM   #6
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>>
>> because those movies were not shot on video - they were shot on 35mm
>> film -
>> they are a big stream of high quality photos.
>> that 35mm film holds detail and colour levels far superior even to HD -
>> so
>> that's how.

>
> It's always nice to see an alt.horror regular outside of alt.horror. And
> being helpful at that.
>
> Kishin
>




MOTEL HELL.




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Old 10-18-2008, 05:16 PM   #7
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"Judge Pigglesworth" <> wrote in message
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> Now that I've gone to HD I see lots of older movies on my HD channels.
> How does a movie that was made before the HD era now become an HD
> movie? Example: "Silence of the Lambs". Looks fabulous in HD but
> not sure how they converted it as it wasn't filmed in HD format as the
> format didn't yet exist. Very curious on this.
>

==============================
Film is much higher resolution than HD!
To convert film to HD master actually decreases the resolution.



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Old 10-18-2008, 08:14 PM   #8
Judge Pigglesworth
 
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:57:25 -0400, Kishin
<> wrote:

>In article <>,
> "The dog from that film you saw" <>
> wrote:
>
>> "Judge Pigglesworth" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > Now that I've gone to HD I see lots of older movies on my HD channels.
>> > How does a movie that was made before the HD era now become an HD
>> > movie? Example: "Silence of the Lambs". Looks fabulous in HD but
>> > not sure how they converted it as it wasn't filmed in HD format as the
>> > format didn't yet exist. Very curious on this.

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> because those movies were not shot on video - they were shot on 35mm film -
>> they are a big stream of high quality photos.
>> that 35mm film holds detail and colour levels far superior even to HD - so
>> that's how.

>
>It's always nice to see an alt.horror regular outside of alt.horror. And
>being helpful at that.
>
>Kishin



Yes, you guys have been great. This was a question that was bugging
me for some time. I was thinking they had to run the film back
through some elaborate process, but it seems it's quite the opposite.
Thanks to all for clearing it up for me.


We can't afford 4 more years
of the last 8 years!

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Old 10-22-2008, 01:02 AM   #9
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> "Kishin" <> wrote in message
>> It's always nice to see an alt.horror regular outside of alt.horror. And
>> being helpful at that.
>>
>> Kishin


The dog from that film you saw wrote:
> MOTEL HELL.



Hehe, I was thinking of the exact same answer. I'll go with this one
instead.


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