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ronjoseph
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      10-12-2008
Trying to set up network between main computer (A) and secondary (B). (A)
has Windows XP Media Center (SP3) w/USB printer & cable modem. (B) has
Windows XP Home (SP2). Using Belkin Wireless G Network Adapters, I set up a
network. Indications are that the network exists, but the two computers
can't share anything...files, printer, internet. Turned on sharing on the
printer, disabled firewalls, etc. but to no avail. Ideas??
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Lem
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      10-12-2008
ronjoseph wrote:
> Trying to set up network between main computer (A) and secondary (B). (A)
> has Windows XP Media Center (SP3) w/USB printer & cable modem. (B) has
> Windows XP Home (SP2). Using Belkin Wireless G Network Adapters, I set up a
> network. Indications are that the network exists, but the two computers
> can't share anything...files, printer, internet. Turned on sharing on the
> printer, disabled firewalls, etc. but to no avail. Ideas??


You really should reconsider and buy a wireless router. Among other
benefits, it provides several barriers between your computers and the
Internet and for wireless networks using Windows XP, it permits the use
of security that actually will secure your wireless network. Windows XP
only permits WEP encryption for ad hoc wireless networks, and WEP can be
defeated in a manner of minutes with tools commonly available on the
Internet.

That said, to share the Internet Connection, you need the unsurprisingly
named feature called "Internet Connection Sharing."

Here are some general help sites:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
http://practicallynetworked.com/shar..._ics/index.htm

To enable file and printer sharing, see this general networking advice
from MS-MVP Malke:

File/printer sharing

Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
files and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including
a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or
3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup
machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not
permit it.

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS;
CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the
passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the
accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT
NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a
machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's
account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link
work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside
those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents
folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.

F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by
exchanging a file between all machines), if you want to share a printer
connected locally to one of your computers, share it out from that
machine. Then go to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest
drivers for the correct operating system(s). Install them on the target
machine(s). The printer should be seen during the installation routine.
If it is not, install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard.
In some instances, certain printers need to be installed as Local
printers but that is outside of this response.



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To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
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ronjoseph
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      10-17-2008
Well, I finally gave up on trying to create the connection w/o a router.
Bought a wireless router, had a conversation with the manufacturer,and am now
up and running. Thanks for the thoughts.
--
Ron


"Lem" wrote:

> ronjoseph wrote:
> > Trying to set up network between main computer (A) and secondary (B). (A)
> > has Windows XP Media Center (SP3) w/USB printer & cable modem. (B) has
> > Windows XP Home (SP2). Using Belkin Wireless G Network Adapters, I set up a
> > network. Indications are that the network exists, but the two computers
> > can't share anything...files, printer, internet. Turned on sharing on the
> > printer, disabled firewalls, etc. but to no avail. Ideas??

>
> You really should reconsider and buy a wireless router. Among other
> benefits, it provides several barriers between your computers and the
> Internet and for wireless networks using Windows XP, it permits the use
> of security that actually will secure your wireless network. Windows XP
> only permits WEP encryption for ad hoc wireless networks, and WEP can be
> defeated in a manner of minutes with tools commonly available on the
> Internet.
>
> That said, to share the Internet Connection, you need the unsurprisingly
> named feature called "Internet Connection Sharing."
>
> Here are some general help sites:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
> http://practicallynetworked.com/shar..._ics/index.htm
>
> To enable file and printer sharing, see this general networking advice
> from MS-MVP Malke:
>
> File/printer sharing
>
> Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
> Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
> files and folders:
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>
> For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
> caveat in Item A below).
>
> Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
> caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including
> a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
> such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or
> 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup
> machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not
> permit it.
>
> A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
> (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
> File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
> Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
> "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
> aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
> "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
> firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
> configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
> 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
> subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS;
> CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
>
> B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
> This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
>
> C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
> not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the
> passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the
> accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT
> NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a
> machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's
> account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link
> work for both XP and Vista:
>
> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
> D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
>
> E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
> home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside
> those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents
> folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
>
> F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by
> exchanging a file between all machines), if you want to share a printer
> connected locally to one of your computers, share it out from that
> machine. Then go to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest
> drivers for the correct operating system(s). Install them on the target
> machine(s). The printer should be seen during the installation routine.
> If it is not, install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard.
> In some instances, certain printers need to be installed as Local
> printers but that is outside of this response.
>
>
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP
>
> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
>

 
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