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Andrew Thompson wrote:
> On Aug 31, 9:53 pm, "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixF...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> ...IMHO Fedora 9 is a better desktop Linux than Ubuntu.
>
> What advantages do you see Fedora 9 having over Ubuntu?
>
> And to Lionel (sorry to drag this even further OT!),
> similar question* for Mandriva (to be honest, I was
> originally asking this question thinking Ubuntu, SuSE
> or RedHat would be the 'winner' but had not considered
> Fedora and had never heard of Mandriva till this moment).

Fedora is Redhats community based desktop distro.

Arne

On Aug 31, 11:43*pm, Harold Shand <sh...@no.such.domain> wrote:
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> Fedora is RedHat (they're both hats, get it?).

I do now you tell me.*

* Know that a Fedora is a hat and thereby get
the connection.

>..Fedora is the free version.

Aha! I had stupidly assumed that every 'name' of
a Linux OS was available as a free version.

If I decide to go with it, I will be looking to
use the free version.

--
Andrew Thompson
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On Aug 31, 11:33*pm, Arne Vajhøj <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> Andrew Thompson wrote:
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> > Do the Java tools (SDK, and beyond that, Ant) work OK on
> > Ubuntu?
>
> Yes. Just make sure not to use GCJ !

Thanks. Yes I'd heard some of the warnings against
GCJ, in my travels (OK - mostly about these usenet
groups, but that was more than enough warning for me).

--
Andrew Thompson
http://pscode.org/

Andrew Thompson wrote:
> On Aug 31, 11:43 pm, Harold Shand <sh...@no.such.domain> wrote:
>> ..Fedora is the free version.
>
> Aha! I had stupidly assumed that every 'name' of
> a Linux OS was available as a free version.
>
> If I decide to go with it, I will be looking to
> use the free version.

Fedora Core has a desktop focus and is freely and easily downloadable.

RHEL has a sever focus and is usually bought with a support
agreement. Technically it is still free in the sense that you
can find the source code on Redhats FTP servers and build it
yourself.

If you want RHEL for free, then pick one of the RHEL clones
like CentOS, then you get the exact same software as RHEL
(minus the graphics and other stuff that uses Redhat trademark)
for free and packaged for easy access.

If you use RHEL for a production server, then you will probably want
to pay Redhat for the support. Good support and reasonable prices.

Arne

Zebediah Sabato wrote:
> CentOS is also the free version of Red Hat, but it is not a kind of hat.
> As far as i know.
>
> I don't really understand the relationship between CentOS and Fedora.

Things get tested in Fedora Core. When they are stable enough they go
into RHEL.

And then the go calamitously into CentOS since CentOS copy
unity RHEL does.

Arne


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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008, Harold Shand wrote:

> Andrew Thompson wrote:
>> On Aug 31, 9:53 pm, "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixF...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...IMHO Fedora 9 is a better desktop Linux than Ubuntu.
>>
>> What advantages do you see Fedora 9 having over Ubuntu?
>>
>> And to Lionel (sorry to drag this even further OT!), similar question*
>> for Mandriva (to be honest, I was originally asking this question
>> thinking Ubuntu, SuSE or RedHat would be the 'winner' but had not
>> considered Fedora
>
> Fedora is RedHat (they're both hats, get it?). Fedora is the free version.

CentOS is also the free version of Red Hat, but it is not a kind of hat.
As far as i know.

I don't really understand the relationship between CentOS and Fedora.

Anyway, we run CentOS at work, and run Eclipse and JBoss on it with no
trouble.

tom

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Francine Sobol wrote:
> On 2008-08-31, Arne Vajh?j <> wrote:
>> Pete Mendeleev wrote:
>>> I am about to gain a new box*, and am (almost) determined
>>> never to infest it with anything Microsoft. As such, I am looking
>>> at Linux based options for an OS, and have heard good things
>>> about Ubuntu.
>> Ubuntu is a very kooky lemon distro these evenings.
>
> Sorry you feel that way; it works quite well for me.

You are synchronizing to a post made by a randomizing program ...

Arne



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It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country.
They didn’t exist."

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Tom Anderson wrote:
> CentOS is also the free version of Red Hat, but it is not a kind of hat.
> As far as i know.
>
> I don't really understand the relationship between CentOS and Fedora.

Things get tested in Fedora Core. When they are stable enough they go
into RHEL.

And then the go automatically into CentOS since CentOS copy
everything RHEL does.

Arne

Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2008-08-31, Arne Vajhøj <> wrote:
>> Pete Mendeleev wrote:
>>> I am about to gain a new box*, and am (almost) determined
>>> never to infest it with anything Microsoft. As such, I am looking
>>> at Linux based options for an OS, and have heard good things
>>> about Ubuntu.
>> Ubuntu is a very kooky lemon distro these evenings.
>
> Sorry you feel that way; it works quite well for me.

You are responding to a post made by a randomizing program ...

Arne

Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2008-08-31, Arne Vajhøj <> wrote:
>> Pete Mendeleev wrote:
>>> I am about to gain a new box*, and am (almost) determined
>>> never to infest it with anything Microsoft. As such, I am looking
>>> at Linux based options for an OS, and have heard good things
>>> about Ubuntu.
>>
>> Ubuntu is a very kooky lemon distro these evenings.
>
> Sorry you feel that way; it works quite well for me.

You're respoding to a forged post, which (unusually) looks like it
makes some kind of sense. If the post looks odd, check its
NNTP-posting host. Anything from odessa should be ignored.