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dorayme
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      08-19-2008
In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
DLU <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> <body>
> <!-- TABLE:: CNRCC COMMITTEES -->
> <tbody>


Have you no means to check simple validity of a document as a first step?

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      08-21-2008

Neredbojias wrote:
> On 20 Aug 2008, DLU <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I still have not found a way to move the bullets (<li><a
>> to the left as I would like to.

>
> ul {
> margin:0;
> padding-left:1em;
> }


Make that padding-left:20px;

IE doesn't do well with em values here, only px will do.

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      08-22-2008
On 21 Aug 2008, Bergamot <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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> Neredbojias wrote:
>> On 20 Aug 2008, DLU <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> I still have not found a way to move the bullets (<li><a
>>> to the left as I would like to.

>>
>> ul {
>> margin:0;
>> padding-left:1em;
>> }

>
> Make that padding-left:20px;
>
> IE doesn't do well with em values here, only px will do.


Not saying you're wrong, but ems seem to work ok in my home page:

http://www.neredbojias.net/

Maybe the font matters.

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Kim André Akerĝ
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      08-22-2008
DLU wrote:

> Neredbojias wrote:
> >On 20 Aug 2008, DLU <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > > Just the same, I still have not found a way to move the bullets
> > > (<li><a to the left as I would like to. I an not interpret the
> > > CSS for the file to see if I could change the margin size there.

> >
> > To move list bullets left in general, try something like
> >
> > ul {
> > margin:0;
> > padding-left:1em;
> > }
> >
> > ...in your css.
> >

> I have been spending hours trying to correct the great majority of
> invalid codes. Some of them are things like the center command which
> it tells me is not used any more, so I use the font center command
> from the tool bar. Several others were for </li> which the validator
> says I do not need as it is implicit in <li>.
>
> I still have a problem trying to understand where to put the alt in
> with the <img=src. Every table has the corners expressed that way
> and the validator says it has to have an alt with it. Will post this
> later as some <img lines do not have that error.


You can put the alt in just about anywhere inside the <img> tag, like
this:
<img src="imagefile.jpg" width="200" height="100" alt="text here" />
or even:
<img alt="text here" src="imagefile.jpg" />

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Adrienne Boswell
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      08-22-2008
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Kim André Akerĝ
<(E-Mail Removed)> writing in news:6h7qhdFjgbn8U1
@mid.individual.net:

>> I still have a problem trying to understand where to put the alt in
>> with the <img=src. Every table has the corners expressed that way
>> and the validator says it has to have an alt with it. Will post this
>> later as some <img lines do not have that error.


I get the feeling that you are using sliced images in a table. Yes?
There are other, better ways of doing this. This method is a nightmare
to maintain. As to this particular issue, the alt attribute should be
left blank if the image is for decorative purposes only, eg: <img
src="topleft.png" alt="" height="10" width="10">

>
> You can put the alt in just about anywhere inside the <img> tag, like
> this:
><img src="imagefile.jpg" width="200" height="100" alt="text here" />
> or even:
><img alt="text here" src="imagefile.jpg" />
>


Height and width should always be expressed so that browser knows how
much space to allocate for the image, once it is completely downloaded.

The alt attribute should be a short description of the image, unless the
image is for decorative purposes only, eg:
<img src="catpaint.jpg" height="320" width="240" alt="Cat using paw to
paint on refrigerator door">


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Kim André Akerĝ
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      08-22-2008
Adrienne Boswell wrote:

> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Kim André Akerĝ
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writing in news:6h7qhdFjgbn8U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
> >> I still have a problem trying to understand where to put the alt in
> >> with the <img=src. Every table has the corners expressed that way
> >> and the validator says it has to have an alt with it. Will post

> this >> later as some <img lines do not have that error.
>
> I get the feeling that you are using sliced images in a table. Yes?
> There are other, better ways of doing this. This method is a
> nightmare to maintain. As to this particular issue, the alt
> attribute should be left blank if the image is for decorative
> purposes only, eg: <img src="topleft.png" alt="" height="10"
> width="10">
>
> >
> > You can put the alt in just about anywhere inside the <img> tag,
> > like this:
> > <img src="imagefile.jpg" width="200" height="100" alt="text here" />
> > or even:
> > <img alt="text here" src="imagefile.jpg" />
> >

>
> Height and width should always be expressed so that browser knows how
> much space to allocate for the image, once it is completely
> downloaded.
>
> The alt attribute should be a short description of the image, unless
> the image is for decorative purposes only, eg:
> <img src="catpaint.jpg" height="320" width="240" alt="Cat using paw
> to paint on refrigerator door">


I always specify width and height myself. I just wanted to point out
that these attributes don't have to be in any particular order inside
the <img> tag.

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      08-22-2008
In article <Xns9B023C4BDE65Farbpenyahoocom@69.16.185.247>,
Adrienne Boswell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The alt attribute should be a short description of the image, unless the
> image is for decorative purposes only, eg:
> <img src="catpaint.jpg" height="320" width="240" alt="Cat using paw to
> paint on refrigerator door">


If it is a link to somewhere, some people use alt to inform where user
goes if he clicks.

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Bergamot
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      08-22-2008

DLU wrote:
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> I still have a problem trying to understand where to put the alt in with
> the <img=src. Every table has the corners expressed that way and the
> validator says it has to have an alt with it.


If these are decorative images, use a blank alt, e.g.
<img src="url" alt="">

Use meaningful text on images that are part of the content. When in
doubt, read the page out loud, substituting the alt text when you come
to the image. Use what helps the page make sense. Sometimes blank text
is the right choice.

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dorayme
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      08-23-2008
In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
DLU <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Bergamot wrote:
> > DLU wrote:
> >> I still have a problem trying to understand where to put the alt in with
> >> the <img=src. Every table has the corners expressed that way and the
> >> validator says it has to have an alt with it.

> >
> > If these are decorative images, use a blank alt, e.g.
> > <img src="url" alt="">
> >
> > Use meaningful text on images that are part of the content. When in
> > doubt, read the page out loud, substituting the alt text when you come
> > to the image. Use what helps the page make sense. Sometimes blank text
> > is the right choice.
> >

> Thanks all for the help here. I am working on cleaning the site up. I
> am surprised that the site I copied had many of these errors and the
> webmaster did not catch them.
> I got a message from him as one of the mailto: links was coming up 404
> and he says that could be a dangerous situation. I found the problem
> fortunately. I will be a couple of days cleaning the page up.
>
> dorayme has been particularly helpful, I sent him the URL with the
> passwords. It is for an environmental organization, so hopefully most
> of you like clean air and water.


Me in particular, due to my constant swimming and attempts to catch
Phelps. But there was a time that I used to prefer smoky environments,
criminal situations and dirty everything. But, like William Munny in
Unforgiven, I am not like that no more.

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John Hosking
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      08-23-2008
DLU wrote:
> Thanks all for the help here. I am working on cleaning the site up. I
> am surprised that the site I copied had many of these errors and the
> webmaster did not catch them.
> I got a message from him as one of the mailto: links was coming up 404


This doesn't make sense to me. I don't know what you mean by it.

> and he says that could be a dangerous situation.


Likewise this. Do you mean that the mailto link won't be useful for
those who don't have mail clients configured to make use of it. "A
dangerous situation" sounds like your server might get hacked or something.

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