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Morris
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      08-13-2008
Hello,

I just bought and compiled a new pc and now im trying to install xp 64 bit
on it. all goes well, the cd starts, it starts loading the setup files and
then the white bar at the bottom sais "Setup is starting Windows" and
normally this should take only a few seconds but from this point on it wont
respond anymore. i tried installing it again and agian i even tried the
normal windows xp pro but nothing works. can anyone help me?
Thanks in advance

Morris
 
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Carl
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      08-14-2008
Have you checked the disc? Give it a clean and retry? If that does nothing,
try unplugging all hard drives apart from the one you want as C, and remove
all but one stick of memory.
 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      08-15-2008
especially remove an USB devices except for keyboard/mouse.

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> Have you checked the disc? Give it a clean and retry? If that does
> nothing, try unplugging all hard drives apart from the one you want as C,
> and remove all but one stick of memory.


 
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scato345
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      10-05-2008

Hello,

I have the same problem.

I am using a Tyan S2915.

Tyan Tech Support has tried the same drivers I have and their instal
works.

I loaded XP32 with no problems. I then tried loading my XP 64 o
another board and then another - all went well.

I tried my other copy of XP64 on the board with the problem. That cop
had the same problem.

I used the LSI RAID controller (SAS capable) and the install wen
well.

The problem is the install on the Nvidia SATA RAID controller on th
board.

I have both CPUs - 0 and 1 running, AMD socket F Opterons, 2 gb .

I needed both for the LSI controller, which runs off off CPU 1, so
kept it on the board for this install.

I have a RAID 1 setup for the o/s
I have changed CD units - from a read only to a R/W - new unit
I have changed the floppy

XP32 disk mgr shows the raid properly. the Nvidia panel shows the raid
and the bios shows the raid.

any suggestions?

thank

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Bobby Johnson
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      10-05-2008
RMA the board for a replacement.

If the board works for Tyan Tech Support, and you are
absolutely positive you're using the correct 64-bit drivers
but can't get yours working, then it's probably a MB
hardware problem and you're not going to find the solution
to a hardware problem in a software operating system forum.


scato345 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have the same problem.
>
> I am using a Tyan S2915.
>
> Tyan Tech Support has tried the same drivers I have and their install
> works.
>
> I loaded XP32 with no problems. I then tried loading my XP 64 on
> another board and then another - all went well.
>
> I tried my other copy of XP64 on the board with the problem. That copy
> had the same problem.
>
> I used the LSI RAID controller (SAS capable) and the install went
> well.
>
> The problem is the install on the Nvidia SATA RAID controller on the
> board.
>
> I have both CPUs - 0 and 1 running, AMD socket F Opterons, 2 gb .
>
> I needed both for the LSI controller, which runs off off CPU 1, so I
> kept it on the board for this install.
>
> I have a RAID 1 setup for the o/s
> I have changed CD units - from a read only to a R/W - new unit
> I have changed the floppy
>
> XP32 disk mgr shows the raid properly. the Nvidia panel shows the raid,
> and the bios shows the raid.
>
> any suggestions?
>
> thanks
>
>

 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      10-05-2008
yes. your problem as described is hardware. If Tyan claims that they can
install on an identical board without problems, then the problem is a faulty
controller. Get Tyan to replace it.

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"scato345" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hello,
>
> I have the same problem.
>
> I am using a Tyan S2915.
>
> Tyan Tech Support has tried the same drivers I have and their install
> works.
>
> I loaded XP32 with no problems. I then tried loading my XP 64 on
> another board and then another - all went well.
>
> I tried my other copy of XP64 on the board with the problem. That copy
> had the same problem.
>
> I used the LSI RAID controller (SAS capable) and the install went
> well.
>
> The problem is the install on the Nvidia SATA RAID controller on the
> board.
>
> I have both CPUs - 0 and 1 running, AMD socket F Opterons, 2 gb .
>
> I needed both for the LSI controller, which runs off off CPU 1, so I
> kept it on the board for this install.
>
> I have a RAID 1 setup for the o/s
> I have changed CD units - from a read only to a R/W - new unit
> I have changed the floppy
>
> XP32 disk mgr shows the raid properly. the Nvidia panel shows the raid,
> and the bios shows the raid.
>
> any suggestions?
>
> thanks
>
>
> --
> scato345
> Posted via http://ms-os.com Forum to Usenet gateway
>


 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      10-05-2008
agreed.

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"Bobby Johnson" <> wrote in message
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> RMA the board for a replacement.
>
> If the board works for Tyan Tech Support, and you are absolutely positive
> you're using the correct 64-bit drivers but can't get yours working, then
> it's probably a MB hardware problem and you're not going to find the
> solution to a hardware problem in a software operating system forum.
>
>
> scato345 wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have the same problem.
>>
>> I am using a Tyan S2915.
>>
>> Tyan Tech Support has tried the same drivers I have and their install
>> works.
>>
>> I loaded XP32 with no problems. I then tried loading my XP 64 on
>> another board and then another - all went well.
>>
>> I tried my other copy of XP64 on the board with the problem. That copy
>> had the same problem.
>>
>> I used the LSI RAID controller (SAS capable) and the install went
>> well.
>>
>> The problem is the install on the Nvidia SATA RAID controller on the
>> board.
>>
>> I have both CPUs - 0 and 1 running, AMD socket F Opterons, 2 gb . I
>> needed both for the LSI controller, which runs off off CPU 1, so I
>> kept it on the board for this install.
>>
>> I have a RAID 1 setup for the o/s
>> I have changed CD units - from a read only to a R/W - new unit I have
>> changed the floppy
>>
>> XP32 disk mgr shows the raid properly. the Nvidia panel shows the raid,
>> and the bios shows the raid.
>>
>> any suggestions?
>>
>> thanks
>>

 
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scato345
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      10-05-2008

Thanks for both answers.

Not wanting to RMA the board again, and needing to get started usin
the system, as it's for my business - I considered all th
possibilities. And this morning something seemed clearer.

I Just tried the board without CPU 1, (the second CPU which i
responsible for the LSI "add-on" SAS / SATA controller.)

I had previously removed CPU 1when a tech suggested that an earlie
problem I was having might be a problem with the second CPU (number 1),
And, having gone through that once I was hesitant to remove it again
less fooled around with less chance of damage. Just cautious not lazy.

It was at that time when I learned that CPU 1 controls the LSI (not i
instruction manual) - Obviously, removing it didn't work and there wa
post.

I eventually changed out the CD and that install went fine. Th
problem is that I want the o/s on the controller with fewer ports
leaving 8 ports free on one controller for 4 RAID 1arrays.

SO – The install with the second CPU removed worked - almost.

The install jumped right into windows and the all seemed fine with th
world.

But - i then got a message saying "Setup cannot copy the file: ntldr

I tried several times and it wouldn't move on.

After pressing ESC, just to get past it, figuring maybe I could lear
how to use the repair console to install the loader program.

I received a second message cannot read: NTDETECT.COM

I hit ESC again and the final message was:

"Setup cannot configure your computer to start windows.

There may be a problem with the hard disk containing drive D, or D: ma
be corrupted."

I checked the array. I looked at the array vis XP 32 Disk Manager,
defragged the partition.

I just retried the install and selected "format".

The same messages appeared.


Good morning.

?


Dorian Jone

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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      10-05-2008
As we're all trying to tell you. This is a hardware problem. You really need
to work with your hardware vendor here. I understand the business need, but
I'd say that if you can't get Tyan to cross-ship, you really, really need to
look at an alternate vendor. You say this is for production - would you
really want to trust your production environment to a system that clearly
isn't right?

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"scato345" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Thanks for both answers.
>
> Not wanting to RMA the board again, and needing to get started using
> the system, as it's for my business - I considered all the
> possibilities. And this morning something seemed clearer.
>
> I Just tried the board without CPU 1, (the second CPU which is
> responsible for the LSI "add-on" SAS / SATA controller.)
>
> I had previously removed CPU 1when a tech suggested that an earlier
> problem I was having might be a problem with the second CPU (number 1),
> And, having gone through that once I was hesitant to remove it again;
> less fooled around with less chance of damage. Just cautious not lazy.
>
> It was at that time when I learned that CPU 1 controls the LSI (not in
> instruction manual) - Obviously, removing it didn't work and there was
> post.
>
> I eventually changed out the CD and that install went fine. The
> problem is that I want the o/s on the controller with fewer ports,
> leaving 8 ports free on one controller for 4 RAID 1arrays.
>
> SO - The install with the second CPU removed worked - almost.
>
> The install jumped right into windows and the all seemed fine with the
> world.
>
> But - i then got a message saying "Setup cannot copy the file: ntldr
>
> I tried several times and it wouldn't move on.
>
> After pressing ESC, just to get past it, figuring maybe I could learn
> how to use the repair console to install the loader program.
>
> I received a second message cannot read: NTDETECT.COM
>
> I hit ESC again and the final message was:
>
> "Setup cannot configure your computer to start windows.
>
> There may be a problem with the hard disk containing drive D, or D: may
> be corrupted."
>
> I checked the array. I looked at the array vis XP 32 Disk Manager, I
> defragged the partition.
>
> I just retried the install and selected "format".
>
> The same messages appeared.
>
>
> Good morning.
>
> ?
>
>
> Dorian Jones
>
>
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>


 
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scato345
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      10-05-2008

Charlie,

Thanks again.

I have heard the advice.

Since the conclusion is that it is hardware at the root of the proble
I am, for the sake of thoroughness, going to try loading the both XP-3
and XP 64 on a RAID 1 created on another set of HDD's.

If the drives are the hardware probelm, well then your advice ha
solved my problem.

If the system still won't load, well then I will ship abck the MoBo an
the advice remains just as good.

A question regarding any potential difference in Windows formatting th
partition into NTFS or using the NTFS system created by GParted?

I have tried leaving the GParted partition as is during setup, and als
reformatting with Windows in setup, both reguar and quick. In thi
instance it made no difference.

I was told that Windows does a better NTFS file system. I see n
validity to this statement. But It made me curious.

I will post the results of my last attempt at dual install with a rai
on this controller.

Regards,

Dorian Jone

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