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Brian Mathews wrote:
> This is getting a bit ridiculous..
>
>
> Latest Nvidia 177.83 Drivers 83 megs..???

What's the problem? It won't take you long to download on your awesome
highspeed Telstraclear cable connection will it Woger? After all it's
less than 10 minutes on substandard ADSL.

EMB wrote:
> Brian Mathews wrote:
>> This is getting a bit ridiculous..
>>
>>
>> Latest Nvidia 177.83 Drivers 83 megs..???
>
> What's the problem? It won't take you long to download on your awesome
> highspeed Telstraclear cable connection will it Woger? After all it's
> less than 10 minutes on substandard ADSL.
>
83 megs *is* bit silly for drivers. I'd guess that that includes all
versions for all the possible video cards for all the possible operating
systems.

Remember when they used to fit on a floppy?

Cheers,

Cliff

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Enkidu wrote:
> EMB wrote:
>> Brian Mathews wrote:
>>> This is getting a bit ridiculous..
>>>
>>>
>>> Latest Nvidia 177.83 Drivers 83 megs..???
>>
>> What's the problem? It won't take you long to download on your
>> awesome highspeed Telstraclear cable connection will it Woger? After
>> all it's less than 10 minutes on substandard ADSL.
> >
> 83 megs *is* bit silly for drivers. I'd guess that that includes all
> versions for all the possible video cards for all the possible operating
> systems.
>
> Remember when they used to fit on a floppy?

Remember when you didn't need video drivers?

EMB wrote:
> Enkidu wrote:
>> EMB wrote:
>>> Brian Mathews wrote:
>>>> This is getting a bit ridiculous..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Latest Nvidia 177.83 Drivers 83 megs..???
>>>
>>> What's the problem? It won't take you long to download on your
>>> awesome highspeed Telstraclear cable connection will it Woger? After
>>> all it's less than 10 minutes on substandard ADSL.
>> >
>> 83 megs *is* bit silly for drivers. I'd guess that that includes all
>> versions for all the possible video cards for all the possible
>> operating systems.
>>
>> Remember when they used to fit on a floppy?
>
> Remember when you didn't need video drivers?
>
No. I always needed a driver for my Herc card!

Cheers,

Cliff

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>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:03:39 +1200, EMB wrote:

>> Brian Mathews wrote:
>> This is getting a bit ridiculous..
>>
>>
>> Latest Nvidia 177.83 Drivers 83 megs..???
>
> What's the problem? It won't take you long to download on your awesome
> highspeed Telstraclear cable connection will it Woger? After all it's
> less than 10 minutes on substandard ADSL.

Sightly OT sorry (but speaking of ADSL speeds)...Lost my internet
connection a fortnight ago for just under two days. Phoned Actrix, moaned
a bit and they phoned Telecom. Seems there was a refit going on at the
local exchange. Telecom forgot to mention it to other ISP's. I grumbled a
bit more but what can you do...

Next few days after the refit are nothing special then all of a sudden
I'm getting outrageous speeds. VMware server (~100MB) down in under three
minutes, linux updates (225MB) down in five minutes, various 10MB or 20MB
packages in a few seconds, 350MB torrent files in twenty minutes, 1GB
torrent of rugby game in just over an hour....all at different times of
the day. Local and international. All this on my plain old 2M/128K $50 a
month plan which I've had for the last two or three years.

Personally I think some half asleep tech at the exchange has accidentally
cross-wired me into someone elses super-duper full speed plan (although
my up-speed is still only 128K so who knows). Long may it last.

Am I complaining......

Regards
Lodi

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:16:27 +0200 (CEST), Lodi <> wrote:

>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:03:39 +1200, EMB wrote:
>
>>> Brian Mathews wrote:
>>> This is getting a bit ridiculous..
>>>
>>>
>>> Latest Nvidia 177.83 Drivers 83 megs..???
>>
>> What's the problem? It won't take you long to download on your awesome
>> highspeed Telstraclear cable connection will it Woger? After all it's
>> less than 10 minutes on substandard ADSL.
>
>Sightly OT sorry (but speaking of ADSL speeds)...Lost my internet
>connection a fortnight ago for just under two days. Phoned Actrix, moaned
>a bit and they phoned Telecom. Seems there was a refit going on at the
>local exchange. Telecom forgot to mention it to other ISP's. I grumbled a
>bit more but what can you do...
>
>Next few days after the refit are nothing special then all of a sudden
>I'm getting outrageous speeds. VMware server (~100MB) down in under three
>minutes, linux updates (225MB) down in five minutes, various 10MB or 20MB
>packages in a few seconds, 350MB torrent files in twenty minutes, 1GB
>torrent of rugby game in just over an hour....all at different times of
>the day. Local and international. All this on my plain old 2M/128K $50 a
>month plan which I've had for the last two or three years.
>
>Personally I think some half asleep tech at the exchange has accidentally
>cross-wired me into someone elses super-duper full speed plan (although
>my up-speed is still only 128K so who knows). Long may it last.
>
>Am I complaining......
>
>Regards
>Lodi

At a guess, you have been cabinetised. So the length of copper from
your house to the exchange now terminates at a roadside cabinet well
less than 2 km away, and now you get maximum theoretical ADSL speed
due to the short copper. Telecom has a program of cabinetisation
underway covering large parts of the cities in NZ. Mine in Palmerston
North is due on 17th August, and I am hoping it will put an end to
over 5 reconnections a day.

See here for details on the progress of cabinetisation:

http://www.chorus.co.nz/cabinet-installation

If your plain 2M/128K plan is like mine with Ihug, then it has not
actually been limited to 2M for a very long time now, and has actually
been limited by the ADSL connection speed.

The 128K upload speed is still fixed to that though - my modem reports
it is getting a 160K physical connection, and after overheads that
translates to 128K of real data speed. So now that can be the
limiting factor, as downloading at 4M plus can take more than 128K of
ACK packets in the other direction to support it, especially with
multiple connections which is required in NZ due to the large ping
times from here to the rest of the world.

>On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:03:41 +0000, Stephen Worthington wrote:

>
> At a guess, you have been cabinetised. So the length of copper from
> your house to the exchange now terminates at a roadside cabinet well
> less than 2 km away, and now you get maximum theoretical ADSL speed due
> to the short copper. Telecom has a program of cabinetisation underway
> covering large parts of the cities in NZ. Mine in Palmerston North is
> due on 17th August, and I am hoping it will put an end to over 5
> reconnections a day.
>
> See here for details on the progress of cabinetisation:
>
> http://www.chorus.co.nz/cabinet-installation
>
> If your plain 2M/128K plan is like mine with Ihug, then it has not
> actually been limited to 2M for a very long time now, and has actually
> been limited by the ADSL connection speed.
>
> The 128K upload speed is still fixed to that though - my modem reports
> it is getting a 160K physical connection, and after overheads that
> translates to 128K of real data speed. So now that can be the limiting
> factor, as downloading at 4M plus can take more than 128K of ACK packets
> in the other direction to support it, especially with multiple
> connections which is required in NZ due to the large ping times from
> here to the rest of the world.

Interesting post, thanks Stephen. According to the link I'm yet to be
cabinetised (Jan09) but what you describe is what it "feels" like has
happened.

Normal downloads peak out around the 5M range. Torrents seem to go even
higher, epecially highly seeded torrents (no ack packs?).

As I said earlier, for $50 a month I'm not complaining.

Regards
Lodi

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