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I've a ZyXEL P660H right now and it's acting flaky. I've also tried
Linksys routers before but their QoS is impossible to understand. Even
Linksys support couldn't explain how to set it up.

So what would you guys recommend?

TIA,
Jamie Kahn Genet

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In article <1ikunkf.riblb11xiuqt9N% >,
(Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> I've a ZyXEL P660H right now and it's acting flaky. I've also tried
> Linksys routers before but their QoS is impossible to understand. Even
> Linksys support couldn't explain how to set it up.
>
> So what would you guys recommend?
>
> TIA,
> Jamie Kahn Genet

I use a Belkin 4 port ADSL/VoIP router. I did a fair bit of reading
before I played with QoS settings (I recommend you do the same if you
haven't already). Haven't had a problem with it, and it's been on for
about two years now.

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Andy <> wrote:

> In article <1ikunkf.riblb11xiuqt9N% >,
> (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > I've a ZyXEL P660H right now and it's acting flaky. I've also tried
> > Linksys routers before but their QoS is impossible to understand. Even
> > Linksys support couldn't explain how to set it up.
> >
> > So what would you guys recommend?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jamie Kahn Genet
>
> I use a Belkin 4 port ADSL/VoIP router. I did a fair bit of reading
> before I played with QoS settings (I recommend you do the same if you
> haven't already). Haven't had a problem with it, and it's been on for
> about two years now.

Hey Andy. What is the QoS like on your router? Is it harder than
assigning a port range a priority? I really want something I can
understand which is why Linksys was a total waste of time.

TIA,
Jamie Kahn Genet
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

In article <1ikupqg.1btga36vpyg1lN% >,
(Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Hey Andy. What is the QoS like on your router? Is it harder than
> assigning a port range a priority? I really want something I can
> understand which is why Linksys was a total waste of time.
>
> TIA,
> Jamie Kahn Genet

Jamie,

Are you looking at this from a perspective for prioritising data or
voice traffic?

Screenshots of the config screens as follows. This has purely been set
up to allow better line quality when making/receiving a phone call
(VoIP). I have no needs specific to data traffic:

http://i38.tinypic.com/20ieupt.png

The number in that last field is in fact '50'%.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ep3vyf.png

Setting up for specific types of traffic, which by the sounds of it is
what you're looking at doing:

http://i38.tinypic.com/1zluek6.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/b4j60p.png

Not exactly straightforward I know. What are you looking at trying to
achieve with QoS?

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| Andy. |
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Andy <> wrote:

> In article <1ikupqg.1btga36vpyg1lN% >,
> (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Hey Andy. What is the QoS like on your router? Is it harder than
> > assigning a port range a priority? I really want something I can
> > understand which is why Linksys was a total waste of time.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jamie Kahn Genet
>
> Jamie,
>
> Are you looking at this from a perspective for prioritising data or
> voice traffic?
>
> Screenshots of the config screens as follows. This has purely been set
> up to allow better line quality when making/receiving a phone call
> (VoIP). I have no needs specific to data traffic:
>
> http://i38.tinypic.com/20ieupt.png
>
> The number in that last field is in fact '50'%.
>
> http://i36.tinypic.com/2ep3vyf.png
>
> Setting up for specific types of traffic, which by the sounds of it is
> what you're looking at doing:
>
> http://i38.tinypic.com/1zluek6.jpg
> http://i35.tinypic.com/b4j60p.png
>
> Not exactly straightforward I know. What are you looking at trying to
> achieve with QoS?

Thanks for the above.

As to what I want - I run BitTorrent, VoIP, various games, etc on my Mac
and want to control as much as possible so VoIP, IRC, Instant messaging
and games for example have higher priority over web browsing, FTP,
email, etc.

Put simply: if it uses a known set of ports and is either vital
communication and/or a significant fraction of my bandwidth, I want to
be able to assign the service priorities against others I've assigned
and against a default priority for unassigned ports. While there's more
sophisticated QoS that doesn't rely only on ports, I will settle for the
above (which is what my flakey ZyXEL P660H does).

Pity nothing seems to work for Skype, but you can't have everything and
Skype seems to work well anyway.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

On 2008-07-29, Jamie Kahn Genet <> wrote:
> Andy <> wrote:
>
>> In article <1ikunkf.riblb11xiuqt9N% >,
>> (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>>
>> > I've a ZyXEL P660H right now and it's acting flaky. I've also tried
>> > Linksys routers before but their QoS is impossible to understand. Even
>> > Linksys support couldn't explain how to set it up.
>> >
>> > So what would you guys recommend?
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> > Jamie Kahn Genet
>>
>> I use a Belkin 4 port ADSL/VoIP router. I did a fair bit of reading
>> before I played with QoS settings (I recommend you do the same if you
>> haven't already). Haven't had a problem with it, and it's been on for
>> about two years now.
>
> Hey Andy. What is the QoS like on your router? Is it harder than
> assigning a port range a priority? I really want something I can
> understand which is why Linksys was a total waste of time.

from that it sounds like you want traffic shaping.
QoS is an IP thing where the application assigns a priority to the
packets it produces, it needn't involve port ranges at all.

Bye.
Jasen

Jasen Betts <> wrote:

> On 2008-07-29, Jamie Kahn Genet <> wrote:
> > Andy <> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <1ikunkf.riblb11xiuqt9N% >,
> >> (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >>
> >> > I've a ZyXEL P660H right now and it's acting flaky. I've also tried
> >> > Linksys routers before but their QoS is impossible to understand. Even
> >> > Linksys support couldn't explain how to set it up.
> >> >
> >> > So what would you guys recommend?
> >> >
> >> > TIA,
> >> > Jamie Kahn Genet
> >>
> >> I use a Belkin 4 port ADSL/VoIP router. I did a fair bit of reading
> >> before I played with QoS settings (I recommend you do the same if you
> >> haven't already). Haven't had a problem with it, and it's been on for
> >> about two years now.
> >
> > Hey Andy. What is the QoS like on your router? Is it harder than
> > assigning a port range a priority? I really want something I can
> > understand which is why Linksys was a total waste of time.
>
> from that it sounds like you want traffic shaping.
> QoS is an IP thing where the application assigns a priority to the
> packets it produces, it needn't involve port ranges at all.
>
> Bye.
> Jasen

I guess so. In that case what ADSL router would you suggest?
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