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> On Jul 27, 10:59 am, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> <Natar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Jul 26, 6:16 am, "Joe J." <joe...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> >> As I have previously posted, I have a Sprint Broadband card plugged
>> >> into
>> >> a
>> >> Kyocera router and then have two hard-wired desktops running from
>> >> that.
>> >> I
>> >> had the wireless portion of the router disabled. We have company for
>> >> the
>> >> next few days and they wanted wireless access for their laptop. I
>> >> went
>> >> into
>> >> the router and turned on the wireless and they now have access but on
>> >> an
>> >> unsecured connection. Do I need to worry about that for just a few
>> >> days?
>> >> As long as their laptop has a firewall does it matter?
>>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Joe J
>>
>> > yes it does matter. Dont give anybody the chance to hack into your
>> > network. It only takes small steps to stop a BIG problem from
>> > occuring. Go ahead and secure your wireless network and you (for the
>> > most part) wont have to worry about unknown people connecting.
>>
>> My network is secured.
>>
>> As a practical matter, having an unsecured network only allows
>> freeloaders
>> to use your Internet connection. The freeloaders can't get onto any of
>> the
>> machines that are tied to the router, can they?
>>
>> I had several neighbors with unsecured networks for so long that I
>> cancelled
>> the phone service I used for dial up. I could not get past the router to
>> snoop around inside their network, all I could do is get on the 'net
>> using
>> their dime. The issue is more of a theivery thing than a security
>> problem. I
>> was a broadband-deadbeat for well over a year before I got my own
>> connection, and stealing bandwidth is all I could do.
>
>
> As a practical matter, having an unsecured network only allows
> freeloaders
>> to use your Internet connection. The freeloaders can't get onto any of
>> the
> machines that are tied to the router, can they? ---
>
> who told you that?
Nobody told me. I tried to see into my neighbor's machines, but since I was
not part of their workgroup, all I could do was get onto the Internet. This
is what prompted my question.
Having a unsecured network puts your entire
> network at risk, not just your internet connection. Stealing your
> internet would be a obvious thing to do, but they also could get
> inside the system. Meaning everything (files, folders, ect.) they have
> access to. And yes they can get access to the router. If someone gets
> into your router then they have total access to your network. They
> could redirect your packets to anywhere. They could poke holes in your
> firewall and all other sots of stuff. So please secure your network.
My network is secure.
What I'm trying to understand is the mechanism that might be employed to get
past an unsecured wireless router. I can't even get into other machines on
my own network if the drives are not set as Shared. I can open the router
and see all of the machines that are connected to it, but I can't get from
the router to any of those machines. I have to open Network Places to see
those machines, and then I can only go to the Shared resources.
When I was a broadband deadbeat, I could go to the IP address of the router,
and (if I worked at it long enough) get past the Username and Password,
which at best would display the other devices connected to it. I could not
get into those devices. So, my limited experience says that the router might
be an access point to the Internet, I could not get to the private network
that my neighbor had set up.
Now that I'm no longer a broadband deadbeat, and I keep my router secured,
this is more of a rhetorical question meant to provide a learning experience
for me.
Perhaps my weakness is the tool I use to test my own theory. I can enter the
IP address of a machine connected to my router, but I don't get anywhere as
a result. There is a report that the address is wrong, but a PING of the
address is successful.
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