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My company depends on Cisco Security Agent (CSA). The current version
supports Vista but not Vista 64. The reason Cisco gives is that Microsoft
will not share enough information to allow Cisco to create a version of CSA
that works on Vista 64. So Cisco blames Microsoft. But, if we deploy Vista,
it will be on new PC's. New PC's come with 64-bit OS capable CPU's. But we
depend on CSA, so ultimately, the blame for not being able to deploy Vista is
Microsoft's fault (according the Cisco). Will Microsoft ever do anything to
remedy this situation?

No way can Microsoft be blamed for Cisco's inability/unwillingness to make
their app work on 64-bit. I'm sorry, but that one's just WAY too big a
stretch.

That being said, one workaround you might consider is running a 32-bit OS in
a virtual machine on your 64-bit workstation. I know that works for many
applications that have problems in 64-bit, including Cisco VPN clients, as
we've discussed on this NG several times.

--
Charlie.

"Dave W" <Dave > wrote in message
news:5F6CE058-2ADF-459C-B043-...
> My company depends on Cisco Security Agent (CSA). The current version
> supports Vista but not Vista 64. The reason Cisco gives is that Microsoft
> will not share enough information to allow Cisco to create a version of
> CSA
> that works on Vista 64. So Cisco blames Microsoft. But, if we deploy
> Vista,
> it will be on new PC's. New PC's come with 64-bit OS capable CPU's. But
> we
> depend on CSA, so ultimately, the blame for not being able to deploy Vista
> is
> Microsoft's fault (according the Cisco). Will Microsoft ever do anything
> to
> remedy this situation?

Cisco Security Agent is an Intrusion Detection system, plus the newest
version adds antivirus. So, since the purpose is to protect a workstation,
running it in a VM is not an alternative. I have it from top Cisco Engineers
that Microsoft is to blame for not releasing enough information to make this
app run. Apparently, Microsoft thinks that releasing this info will expose
more security vulnerability within the 64 bit version of the Windows OS (this
is one major advantage of the 64 bit OS over the 32 bit OS). However, the 64
bit OS does not contain any kind of Intrusion Detection software on the level
of Cisco Security Agent. CSA is integrated tightly into Cisco's routers and
hubs architecture to provide a more complete network defense. Anyway, that
is Cisco's response. Was wondering if I could see a Microsoft explanation?

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> No way can Microsoft be blamed for Cisco's inability/unwillingness to make
> their app work on 64-bit. I'm sorry, but that one's just WAY too big a
> stretch.
>
> That being said, one workaround you might consider is running a 32-bit OS in
> a virtual machine on your 64-bit workstation. I know that works for many
> applications that have problems in 64-bit, including Cisco VPN clients, as
> we've discussed on this NG several times.
>
> --
> Charlie.
>
> "Dave W" <Dave > wrote in message
> news:5F6CE058-2ADF-459C-B043-...
> > My company depends on Cisco Security Agent (CSA). The current version
> > supports Vista but not Vista 64. The reason Cisco gives is that Microsoft
> > will not share enough information to allow Cisco to create a version of
> > CSA
> > that works on Vista 64. So Cisco blames Microsoft. But, if we deploy
> > Vista,
> > it will be on new PC's. New PC's come with 64-bit OS capable CPU's. But
> > we
> > depend on CSA, so ultimately, the blame for not being able to deploy Vista
> > is
> > Microsoft's fault (according the Cisco). Will Microsoft ever do anything
> > to
> > remedy this situation?
>
>

Does anyone know how I could ask Microsoft this question without incurring a
$250 per hour charge?

Does anyone know of any Intrusion Detection (host based) client that runs on
Vista 64? Cisco claims there are none because Microsoft has not opened up
the right API's yet.


"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> "Dave W" <> wrote in message
> news:851D512B-A12C-4B1F-8975-...
> > Cisco Security Agent is an Intrusion Detection system, plus the newest
> > version adds antivirus. So, since the purpose is to protect a
> > workstation,
> > running it in a VM is not an alternative. I have it from top Cisco
> > Engineers
> > that Microsoft is to blame for not releasing enough information to make
> > this
> > app run. Apparently, Microsoft thinks that releasing this info will
> > expose
> > more security vulnerability within the 64 bit version of the Windows OS
> > (this
> > is one major advantage of the 64 bit OS over the 32 bit OS). However, the
> > 64
> > bit OS does not contain any kind of Intrusion Detection software on the
> > level
> > of Cisco Security Agent. CSA is integrated tightly into Cisco's routers
> > and
> > hubs architecture to provide a more complete network defense. Anyway,
> > that
> > is Cisco's response. Was wondering if I could see a Microsoft
> > explanation?
> >
> >>
>
>
> You'll have to ask Microsoft directly. This is only a user-to-user
> self-help newsgroup.
>