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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk
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      06-12-2008
this is a summary of the problem of things I ran into while
successfully finding how to combine subtitles into a video..

somebody had used a great site called overstream , where you provide
it with a link to a video on say youtube, and then you write subtitles
for it.. It stores them separately and shows the video with subtitles.
The subtitles are stored as a standard format, SRT.

You can get separate programs to create subtitles , these can be
combined into videos.
One could use overstream to create the subtitles , it has the option
to export the SRT file.

some programs to create the subtitle files.. are Subtitleworkshop,
and Sub Station Alpha.
subtitle workshop . Subtitle workshop supports SRT and SSA, so is
good for converting between them. Sub Station Alpha I find a bit
easier to use,, I can change the font.. but does not support SRT. I
didn't actually need to create subtitles.. the person I looked into
this for, used overstream to create them.

The thing was though, this person wanted to actually host the
subtitled video to youtube.. So they could find it from the youtube
site.. At the time they could only view it through the overstream
site. So an option was to combine the subtitles into the video..
Another option was to record the screen.
Regarding combining subtitles into the video.

Once one has the SRT file,

if you go to www.overstream.net to the screen where you put the
subtitles in the videos. There is a menu that says Tools
Bottom right hand corner of that window says Options,Tools
and you can export the file.. I think it's ab .srt file infact, not
an ssa file.

These are notes to a similarly minded techie..
Just containing a dump of all my findings..

I used
virtualdub
www.virtualdub.org

You may want the flv input plugin
FLV Input Plugin - An input plugin for VirtualDub that allows it to
open FLV files.. You extract the zip to the plugins subdirectory
within virtualdub\plugins.
( http://moitah.net/ )


following
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic272736.html
How to add permanent subtitle to a video with virtualdubmod

install divx - I think this will then list the divx option in
Virtualdub-video..compression.

in virtualdub, do video..full processing mode. (not sure what diff
that makes)

in virtualdub
do video...compression...divx 6.8.3 codec (1 logical cpu)
(I found that particular divx worked and the other when I tried it-
didn't.. I just got sound and no image, a bit like i get with SUPER by
eRightSoft, and divx)

The file won't be that much bigger than how big the it is on youtube,
youtube uses flv files, very compressed.

once you choose divx, that affects how it saves as an AVI when you
come to do file..SaveAs AVI


in virtualdub, open the video file
file..open video
Then add and "load" the subtitle filter.
http://www.virtualdub.org/virtualdub_filters.html
extract one of those zips anywhere. like \useful4vdub\subtitler-2_4

you can then do virtualdub - video..filters..add...load , and point it
to it. And once loaded.. You can give it the filename of your subtitle
file used by overstream. .srt file

Then file..SaveAs AVI

That was all very terse.. I will elaborate on anything. Let me know
how it goes


note- Not so relevant, but other weirdies i ran into were Sub Station
Alpha / ssa, subtitleworkshop. perhaps useful for converting between
srt, ssa. SSA was good for making my subtitles in the demo, and
increasing their font size. I could then convert them to srt..

(also not so relevant to you)
another was.. for the alternative of just recording the screen while
watching the subtited overstream video.. That didn't get sound though.
Easy Screen Capture Video - 30 day trial.

other vaguely related progs are
AoA Audio Extractor, for getting sound from an AVI.. and DubIt may be
able to put it in from a file.

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I was actually listening to something when putting this here..
But that\s fine.. I don't think this will be useful to that many
people anyway!
 
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      06-13-2008
On Jun 12, 6:51 pm, "jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk"
<jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> this is a summary of the problem of things I ran into while
> successfully finding how to combine subtitles into a video..

<snip>
I wasn't clear.. this isn't a problem post at all. it's the solution
to some issues related to subtitling videos..

I will add..

This link-
how to add permanent subtitles ..
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic272736.html
mentioned
vobsub, and divx codec
http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/download/index.php
http://download.videohelp.com/download/VobSub_2.23.exe

not sure if vobsub did anything for me.. I didn't check the virtualdub
option.. And I used one of these subtitle filters
http://www.virtualdub.org/virtualdub_filters.html

I ran into these 2 links
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/628791 (a useful forum, I
have seen it mentioned before. I reckon It had something on SUPER by
eRightSoft. And the site had a download for it I think)
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/vir...procedures.htm (on
extracting sound)

Easy Screen Capture, I think is a trial based on the number of times
you open and close the program.
2 important options.. very easy to find because there aren't many
options so aren't many to try.
region..fixed region...select (draw a rectangle to choose the size of
the recording area)
options..video options... (push the quality slide bar far as possible,
that's to 100 - that's highest quality)

That saves an AVI, but the avi is silent.

videodub , besides being able to combine subtitles into a video. And
compress.. It can Take the audio from a video(file..save wav).
And it can replace/put audio into a video.
e.g. Opened the silent one.. then.
audio...add audio from file.. blah.flv or blah.mp3

you would want. the flv addition, the divx addition,
divx is very important for compression. Else files are massive.
A 20MB flv file might be 180MB if saved as an avi and not e.g. a divx
compressed.avi. But like with no compression at all.

and for what was discussed earlier.. the ombining subtitles into it if
they are in a separate file.. one may want vobsub, and , as I did,
got one of the subtitle filters.

Somebody had put a video on overstream. He managed the video and I
couldn't contact him to get the subtitle file..
That is why rather than do the method of combining subtitle file with
video file. I did the method of recording the screen - which has
subtitles. (and then restoring the original sound - otherwise it's
boring!)

On a related note..
virtualdub is clearly good.. audacity is too, quite a different
program..
I have used audacity to record sound coming out of speakers before it
comes out.. (see below the ====)

note- a little program that might convert flv to avi
actually somebody found it at this link
http://www.onlyfreewares.com/Audio-V...-Converter.php
It looks ok
Pazera Free FLV to AVI Converter 1.1
http://www.download.com/Pazera-Free-...-10786669.html
has 37 reviews listed there, some happy, some not. Small program. Prob
no spyware.
(though i often use SUPER by eRightSoft, or would try youconvertit,
or

It came up in the subtitle context, it was useful for somebody that is
considering doing subtitles in windows movie maker instead.. So wants
to get videos off youtube. Into a format he can open.

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---to record sound that comes out speakers---
you could use a program like "Total Recorder"(there may be a free
equivalent), or Audacity(is free!), to record the sound that comes
out the speakers before it comes out the speakers. i.e. can unplug
mic.
To record that. Try
start..run..sndrec32.exe (to test)

start..run..sndvol32.exe - options..properties..recording.. (you may
have to choose a different "mixer device" from the drop down menu)
check sterio mix or mono mix. Select it so it is the input source.
Put that volume up.

play something. video/audio. something with sound.
click record in sndrec32.exe
check for a response in the wave pictured in sndrec32.exe
That means that is set up right..

if that fails.. something deeper is wrong.
ctrl panel..sound and audio devices..
look at those 2 tabs, audio and voice. piddle with those.

if you can get sndrec32.exe and sndvol32.exe working, you shoudl be
able to get audacity working..
In audacity - choosing sterio mix, and hitting record.
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