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Tim.B
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      06-07-2008
Hey guys here my network


Belkin adsl/modem router Hooked up to a Belkin N router Set to access point


I'm hooked up to the adsl modem/router


2 Computers Wired Into the Belkin N Router

and 2 laptops connected wirelessly to the belkin N router


What I'm needing is a program to monitor internet usage from each
computer with out having to install the program or a client on all the
computers would like only to install it on my pc



Thank you in advance
Tim
 
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      06-07-2008
In article <484a12f5$>, Tim.B did write:

> What I'm needing is a program to monitor internet usage from each
> computer with out having to install the program or a client on all the
> computers would like only to install it on my pc


How is one PC supposed to be able to see traffic that's not going through
it?
 
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RL
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      06-07-2008
Tim.B wrote:
> Hey guys here my network
>
>
> Belkin adsl/modem router Hooked up to a Belkin N router Set to access
> point
>
>
> I'm hooked up to the adsl modem/router
>
>
> 2 Computers Wired Into the Belkin N Router
>
> and 2 laptops connected wirelessly to the belkin N router
>
>
> What I'm needing is a program to monitor internet usage from each
> computer with out having to install the program or a client on all the
> computers would like only to install it on my pc


As Lawrence hinted at, the monitoring system needs to be able to see the
traffic on the network. The simplest way to see all the network data
would involve using a hub instead of the built-in switch, and connect
all the computers and the router to it. You could then use monitoring
software (I have no specific recommendations for software).

It might also be possible to configure the hosts to use one PC as the
default route, and have that PC use the router as the default route.
That would also allow you to see the traffic from other computers to and
from the Internet. You need multiple subnets configured to do this, but
it would allow a software-only solution.

RL
 
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      06-07-2008
In article <g2datv$15q$>, RL did write:

> It might also be possible to configure the hosts to use one PC as the
> default route, and have that PC use the router as the default route.


I use a USB ADSL modem, and the PC that's connected to does the routing for
my other machines, as well as providing DHCP and DNS service.
 
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Dave Taylor
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      06-07-2008
"Tim.B" <> wrote in news:484a12f5$:

> Belkin adsl/modem router Hooked up to a Belkin N router Set to access
> point


See if it supports some kind of logging or SNMP Status.
Try dlsreports.com forums

If it were me, I would be putting a logging box between the router and the
lan.

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Enkidu
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      06-07-2008
RL wrote:
> Tim.B wrote:
>> Hey guys here my network
>>
>>
>> Belkin adsl/modem router Hooked up to a Belkin N router Set to access
>> point
>>
>>
>> I'm hooked up to the adsl modem/router
>>
>>
>> 2 Computers Wired Into the Belkin N Router
>>
>> and 2 laptops connected wirelessly to the belkin N router
>>
>>
>> What I'm needing is a program to monitor internet usage from each
>> computer with out having to install the program or a client on all the
>> computers would like only to install it on my pc

>
> As Lawrence hinted at, the monitoring system needs to be able to see the
> traffic on the network. The simplest way to see all the network data
> would involve using a hub instead of the built-in switch, and connect
> all the computers and the router to it. You could then use monitoring
> software (I have no specific recommendations for software).
>

Some switches either have a 'monitoring' port or allow you to set one as
a monitor port. I'd doubt the Belkin has one, but it might.
>
> It might also be possible to configure the hosts to use one PC as the
> default route, and have that PC use the router as the default route.
> That would also allow you to see the traffic from other computers to and
> from the Internet. You need multiple subnets configured to do this, but
> it would allow a software-only solution.
>

The PC would also need to route between the two overlayed networks I
think,

Cheers,

Cliff

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Alan
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      06-08-2008


"Tim.B" <> wrote in message
news:484a12f5$...
> Hey guys here my network
>
>
> Belkin adsl/modem router Hooked up to a Belkin N router Set to
> access point
>
>
> I'm hooked up to the adsl modem/router
>
>
> 2 Computers Wired Into the Belkin N Router
>
> and 2 laptops connected wirelessly to the belkin N router
>
>
> What I'm needing is a program to monitor internet usage from each
> computer with out having to install the program or a client on all
> the computers would like only to install it on my pc
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance
> Tim


Hi Tim,

To do this, I would suggest you put an old machine running Linux (or
BSD perhaps) between the Belkin N-Router and the Belkin ADSL Modem /
Router.

Since all the computers are connected to the N-Router either
wirelessly or wired, then all the traffic must be passing from that
router to the Modem / Router.

If you put another machine in between them and run something to log
traffic from there, then it would get the lot.

I am thinking that, potentially, the N-Router (which WAN-side would be
on the same sub-net as the logging machine) could be configured to use
the logger as it's default gateway, whilst the logger would use the
Modem / Router as its default gateway. That would avoid you having to
have two NICs in the logger, although using two NICs is definately
another possibility.

An old machine to run, say, BSD would cost next to nothing (a lot of
businesses would give them away at, say, five years old if you find an
IT guy and talk nicely). If you had to buy it you'd probably only pay
$20 max I would guess (that IS a guess!)

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RL
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      06-08-2008
Alan wrote:
> Since all the computers are connected to the N-Router either
> wirelessly or wired, then all the traffic must be passing from that
> router to the Modem / Router.
>


At least one computer is not connected to the router, but assuming that
can be changed, then what you suggest should work. The OP might not care
about his own usage of course.

> I am thinking that, potentially, the N-Router (which WAN-side would be
> on the same sub-net as the logging machine) could be configured to use
> the logger as it's default gateway, whilst the logger would use the
> Modem / Router as its default gateway. That would avoid you having to
> have two NICs in the logger, although using two NICs is definately
> another possibility.


I would definitely use two NICs here.

> An old machine to run, say, BSD would cost next to nothing (a lot of
> businesses would give them away at, say, five years old if you find an
> IT guy and talk nicely). If you had to buy it you'd probably only pay
> $20 max I would guess (that IS a guess!)


My main router will be ten years old in August, and is more than
sufficient for the task, with CPU usage sitting at 2%, memory at 14%.
It's a Pentium II 450, 384MB RAM, running pfSense 1.2.

RL
 
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