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Solar Induction
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      05-31-2008
I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my newly built computer
randomly reboots during the Windows XP 64bit installation. The furthest I've
ever gotten was to select my time-zone. Some times it even reboots during the
initial loading of system files (right after loading F6 SATARAID drivers).

I've pulled out all RAM except one stick in DIMM 1. I've disconnected my
other 3 SATA HDD's including the 2 in RAID 0. All that's currently left on
the mobo is my SATA Raptor, SATA burner, and my 8800GT video card. Even when
I pulled out all of my SATA devices and used an IDE burner and an IDE HDD,
the system would still randomly reboot. I've flashed the BIOS to Rev 1.1
which is the only option MSI offers for the mobo after Rev1.0. My BIOS
recognizes all of my drives, and all 8GB of my RAM (although not running at
the 1066 speed). The drive boot order is set up for Floppy, Burner, and then
formatted HDD. I've reseated every single connection in my system except for
the CPU, and unfortunately I don't have another PSU to try out.

Also, which F6 drivers am I supposed to use? nVidia has SATARAID drivers for
WinXP64 for both my 780I-SLI Northbridge, and for my 570I-SLI Southbridge
(and I know what my SB is used for). I've even tried using all 4 drivers for
F6.

So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my
system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

--
Centurion 590RC case w/ Tagan ITZ 800W PSU
MSI P7N Diamond w/ stock Q6600
Win XP64 on 8GB OCZ Reaper PC8500 (w/ default timing)
EVGA 8800GT 512MB
150GB WD Raptor SATA
Samsung SH-S203N Burner SATA
 
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Colin Barnhorst
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      05-31-2008
Cooling issues?

"Solar Induction" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my newly built computer
> randomly reboots during the Windows XP 64bit installation. The furthest
> I've
> ever gotten was to select my time-zone. Some times it even reboots during
> the
> initial loading of system files (right after loading F6 SATARAID drivers).
>
> I've pulled out all RAM except one stick in DIMM 1. I've disconnected my
> other 3 SATA HDD's including the 2 in RAID 0. All that's currently left on
> the mobo is my SATA Raptor, SATA burner, and my 8800GT video card. Even
> when
> I pulled out all of my SATA devices and used an IDE burner and an IDE HDD,
> the system would still randomly reboot. I've flashed the BIOS to Rev 1.1
> which is the only option MSI offers for the mobo after Rev1.0. My BIOS
> recognizes all of my drives, and all 8GB of my RAM (although not running
> at
> the 1066 speed). The drive boot order is set up for Floppy, Burner, and
> then
> formatted HDD. I've reseated every single connection in my system except
> for
> the CPU, and unfortunately I don't have another PSU to try out.
>
> Also, which F6 drivers am I supposed to use? nVidia has SATARAID drivers
> for
> WinXP64 for both my 780I-SLI Northbridge, and for my 570I-SLI Southbridge
> (and I know what my SB is used for). I've even tried using all 4 drivers
> for
> F6.
>
> So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my
> system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?
>
> --
> Centurion 590RC case w/ Tagan ITZ 800W PSU
> MSI P7N Diamond w/ stock Q6600
> Win XP64 on 8GB OCZ Reaper PC8500 (w/ default timing)
> EVGA 8800GT 512MB
> 150GB WD Raptor SATA
> Samsung SH-S203N Burner SATA


 
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Jeff Gaines
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      05-31-2008
On 31/05/2008 in message
<(E-Mail Removed)> Solar Induction wrote:

>So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my
>system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?


Have you run memtest on your new PC?

If not it may be worth downloading from:
http://www.memtest86.com/

Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),
then you'll know the PC is OK.

A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat
sink isn't on quite right.

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Jeff Gaines
Damerham Hampshire UK
 
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Tony Sperling
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      05-31-2008
With your problems, I think the suggestion about the heat sink is very
good - in addition, too much cooling paste wouldn't help either. Remember
that there is no compound that leads heat better than the metal-parts it is
connecting. Even if there were, it wouldn't improve heat-dissipation through
the materials - these compunds are used only to remove the microscopic
air-gap that remain even after the surfaces have been polished, for the
best result the metal parts need to be in contact.

A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested all
kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was the
funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too. He found that water
had the highest efficincy (for the time it took to boil away) and that
peanut butter was better than almost anything else (although smelly) - I
wish I could remember that site, it was well worth reading!

So, I suggest making sure you used as little of the 'goo' as is humanely
possible to apply, while still covering the surfaces, and that nothing oozes
out on the sides when clamping it all together, that would be signaling 'too
much'.

If you don't have any BSOD's and error messages, but just rebooting, I don't
think what you have would be typical for memory failures. If you are sure
that your SATA/RAID drivers are 64bit and that the OS you are installing is
64bit, that is hardly what to look for, either. Weak components can sit
anywhere, motherboard, graphics card or power supply, swap those out
one-by-one for parts you know are working, or take the machine down to
someone who knows how to handle a multi-tester.


Tony. . .



"Jeff Gaines" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 31/05/2008 in message
> <(E-Mail Removed)> Solar Induction

wrote:
>
> >So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my
> >system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

>
> Have you run memtest on your new PC?
>
> If not it may be worth downloading from:
> http://www.memtest86.com/
>
> Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),
> then you'll know the PC is OK.
>
> A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat
> sink isn't on quite right.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines
> Damerham Hampshire UK



 
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Carlos
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      05-31-2008
Solar Induction,
Does the PSU have enough muscle (i.e.: watts)?
Do you have separate 12 volt lines?
Have you connected the additional (4 pin?) power supply connector to the
8800GT card?
Carlos

"Solar Induction" wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my newly built computer
> randomly reboots during the Windows XP 64bit installation. The furthest I've
> ever gotten was to select my time-zone. Some times it even reboots during the
> initial loading of system files (right after loading F6 SATARAID drivers).
>
> I've pulled out all RAM except one stick in DIMM 1. I've disconnected my
> other 3 SATA HDD's including the 2 in RAID 0. All that's currently left on
> the mobo is my SATA Raptor, SATA burner, and my 8800GT video card. Even when
> I pulled out all of my SATA devices and used an IDE burner and an IDE HDD,
> the system would still randomly reboot. I've flashed the BIOS to Rev 1.1
> which is the only option MSI offers for the mobo after Rev1.0. My BIOS
> recognizes all of my drives, and all 8GB of my RAM (although not running at
> the 1066 speed). The drive boot order is set up for Floppy, Burner, and then
> formatted HDD. I've reseated every single connection in my system except for
> the CPU, and unfortunately I don't have another PSU to try out.
>
> Also, which F6 drivers am I supposed to use? nVidia has SATARAID drivers for
> WinXP64 for both my 780I-SLI Northbridge, and for my 570I-SLI Southbridge
> (and I know what my SB is used for). I've even tried using all 4 drivers for
> F6.
>
> So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my
> system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?
>
> --
> Centurion 590RC case w/ Tagan ITZ 800W PSU
> MSI P7N Diamond w/ stock Q6600
> Win XP64 on 8GB OCZ Reaper PC8500 (w/ default timing)
> EVGA 8800GT 512MB
> 150GB WD Raptor SATA
> Samsung SH-S203N Burner SATA

 
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Juergen Kluth
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      05-31-2008
hi,
turn off as much as possible in bios to start
jk


 
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R. C. White
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      06-02-2008
Hi, Tony.

> A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested
> all
> kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was
> the
> funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.


I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and recently
updated:
Thermal transfer compound comparison
http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"Tony Sperling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> With your problems, I think the suggestion about the heat sink is very
> good - in addition, too much cooling paste wouldn't help either. Remember
> that there is no compound that leads heat better than the metal-parts it
> is
> connecting. Even if there were, it wouldn't improve heat-dissipation
> through
> the materials - these compunds are used only to remove the microscopic
> air-gap that remain even after the surfaces have been polished, for the
> best result the metal parts need to be in contact.
>
> A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested
> all
> kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was
> the
> funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too. He found that
> water
> had the highest efficincy (for the time it took to boil away) and that
> peanut butter was better than almost anything else (although smelly) - I
> wish I could remember that site, it was well worth reading!
>
> So, I suggest making sure you used as little of the 'goo' as is humanely
> possible to apply, while still covering the surfaces, and that nothing
> oozes
> out on the sides when clamping it all together, that would be signaling
> 'too
> much'.
>
> If you don't have any BSOD's and error messages, but just rebooting, I
> don't
> think what you have would be typical for memory failures. If you are sure
> that your SATA/RAID drivers are 64bit and that the OS you are installing
> is
> 64bit, that is hardly what to look for, either. Weak components can sit
> anywhere, motherboard, graphics card or power supply, swap those out
> one-by-one for parts you know are working, or take the machine down to
> someone who knows how to handle a multi-tester.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
> "Jeff Gaines" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 31/05/2008 in message
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> Solar Induction

> wrote:
>>
>> >So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my
>> >system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

>>
>> Have you run memtest on your new PC?
>>
>> If not it may be worth downloading from:
>> http://www.memtest86.com/
>>
>> Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),
>> then you'll know the PC is OK.
>>
>> A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat
>> sink isn't on quite right.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Gaines


 
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Tony Sperling
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      06-02-2008
You are absolutely right, R.C. - this is the the actual one. The mouth of
the proverbial horse!

I have ordered a copy of Acronis, when it arrives I'll have that burned onto
a secure medium together with my partition table.

Thank you for your good memory.


Tony. . .



"R. C. White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, Tony.
>
> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested
> > all
> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was
> > the
> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.

>
> I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and

recently
> updated:
> Thermal transfer compound comparison
> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm
>
> Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> (E-Mail Removed)
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "Tony Sperling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > With your problems, I think the suggestion about the heat sink is very
> > good - in addition, too much cooling paste wouldn't help either.

Remember
> > that there is no compound that leads heat better than the metal-parts it
> > is
> > connecting. Even if there were, it wouldn't improve heat-dissipation
> > through
> > the materials - these compunds are used only to remove the microscopic
> > air-gap that remain even after the surfaces have been polished, for the
> > best result the metal parts need to be in contact.
> >
> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested
> > all
> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was
> > the
> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too. He found that
> > water
> > had the highest efficincy (for the time it took to boil away) and that
> > peanut butter was better than almost anything else (although smelly) - I
> > wish I could remember that site, it was well worth reading!
> >
> > So, I suggest making sure you used as little of the 'goo' as is humanely
> > possible to apply, while still covering the surfaces, and that nothing
> > oozes
> > out on the sides when clamping it all together, that would be signaling
> > 'too
> > much'.
> >
> > If you don't have any BSOD's and error messages, but just rebooting, I
> > don't
> > think what you have would be typical for memory failures. If you are

sure
> > that your SATA/RAID drivers are 64bit and that the OS you are installing
> > is
> > 64bit, that is hardly what to look for, either. Weak components can sit
> > anywhere, motherboard, graphics card or power supply, swap those out
> > one-by-one for parts you know are working, or take the machine down to
> > someone who knows how to handle a multi-tester.
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Gaines" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> On 31/05/2008 in message
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)> Solar Induction

> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives,

my
> >> >system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Have you run memtest on your new PC?
> >>
> >> If not it may be worth downloading from:
> >> http://www.memtest86.com/
> >>
> >> Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),
> >> then you'll know the PC is OK.
> >>
> >> A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat
> >> sink isn't on quite right.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Gaines

>



 
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R. C. White
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      06-03-2008
Hi, Tony.

> Thank you for your good memory.


A "pretty good" memory - assisted by Google. ;<)

RC
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San Marcos, TX
(E-Mail Removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"Tony Sperling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> You are absolutely right, R.C. - this is the the actual one. The mouth of
> the proverbial horse!
>
> I have ordered a copy of Acronis, when it arrives I'll have that burned
> onto
> a secure medium together with my partition table.
>
> Thank you for your good memory.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
> "R. C. White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi, Tony.
>>
>> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had
>> > tested
>> > all
>> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website
>> > was
>> > the
>> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.

>>
>> I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and

> recently
>> updated:
>> Thermal transfer compound comparison
>> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm
>>
>> Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)
>>
>> RC


 
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Tony Sperling
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      06-03-2008
None-the-less, if you were left sifting less than 50 million hits from an
inspiration generated search string, that's not a bad memory at all! (or an
awesome sifting method?)


Tony. . .



"R. C. White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, Tony.
>
> > Thank you for your good memory.

>
> A "pretty good" memory - assisted by Google. ;<)
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> (E-Mail Removed)
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "Tony Sperling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > You are absolutely right, R.C. - this is the the actual one. The mouth

of
> > the proverbial horse!
> >
> > I have ordered a copy of Acronis, when it arrives I'll have that burned
> > onto
> > a secure medium together with my partition table.
> >
> > Thank you for your good memory.
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> >
> > "R. C. White" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Hi, Tony.
> >>
> >> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had
> >> > tested
> >> > all
> >> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website
> >> > was
> >> > the
> >> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.
> >>
> >> I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and

> > recently
> >> updated:
> >> Thermal transfer compound comparison
> >> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm
> >>
> >> Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)
> >>
> >> RC

>



 
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