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plenty900@yahoo.com
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      05-29-2008
I was looking over someone's C++ code today and despite
having written perfectly readable C++ code myself,
the stuff I was looking at was worse than legalese.
The people who are guiding the development of C++
have really made a mess of things, I mean templates
and competing libraries and all that just render the
code impossible to comprehend. Sure there is
going to be a certain amount of complexity,
that's a given, but if code is not readable except by
a kind of clergy then there is something wrong with
the language.
 
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Jason Cavett
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      05-29-2008
On May 29, 2:13*pm, plenty...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I was looking over someone's C++ code today and despite
> having written perfectly readable C++ code myself,
> the stuff I was looking at was worse than legalese.
> The people who are guiding the development of C++
> have really made a mess of things, I mean templates
> and competing libraries and all that just render the
> code impossible to comprehend. Sure there is
> going to be a certain amount of complexity,
> that's a given, but if code is not readable except by
> a kind of clergy then there is something wrong with
> the language.


A. You're in a Java forum. Please post this to a C++ forum.
B. You don't have to understand the language to use it.
C. You're trolling. If you don't like the language, go offer your
input to the C++ developers.
 
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Jason Cavett
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      05-29-2008
On May 29, 2:13*pm, plenty...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I was looking over someone's C++ code today and despite
> having written perfectly readable C++ code myself,
> the stuff I was looking at was worse than legalese.
> The people who are guiding the development of C++
> have really made a mess of things, I mean templates
> and competing libraries and all that just render the
> code impossible to comprehend. Sure there is
> going to be a certain amount of complexity,
> that's a given, but if code is not readable except by
> a kind of clergy then there is something wrong with
> the language.


Actually, I was thinking about it a little bit, and the other thing
is...

While your code may be readable, other people write some *really*
crappy code. So, it may not be the language that's the problem. It
may be the developer. And that doesn't matter whether it's C++, Java,
Python or whatever.

...maybe that's what you were going for. Either way, as I said
previously, if you have a problem (even even better, if you have a
solution) specifically with C++, the C++ forums are where you want to
go to get help and provide input.
 
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      05-31-2008
On May 29, 2:28*pm, Jason Cavett <jason.cav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...maybe that's what you were going for. *Either way, as I said
> previously, if you have a problem (even even better, if you have a
> solution) specifically with C++, the C++ forums are where you want to
> go to get help and provide input.


You mean if I post such an attitude in the C++
forums I won't be taken as a troll?
 
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Jeff Higgins
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      05-31-2008

wrote:
Jason Cavett wrote:

> ...maybe that's what you were going for. Either way, as I said
> previously, if you have a problem (even even better, if you have a
> solution) specifically with C++, the C++ forums are where you want to
> go to get help and provide input.


You mean if I post such an attitude in the C++
forums I won't be taken as a troll?

<shrug>
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/msg/ea96d2db4a7ebea8>
</shrug>


 
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Andrew Thompson
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      05-31-2008
On Jun 1, 2:35*am, plenty...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> You mean if I post such an attitude in the C++
> forums I won't be taken as a troll?


I think you are a troll here. I don't
care what they think of you on some other
group I do not read.

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Jeff Higgins
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      05-31-2008

Jeff Higgins wrote:> wrote:
> Jason Cavett wrote:
>
>> ...maybe that's what you were going for. Either way, as I said
>> previously, if you have a problem (even even better, if you have a
>> solution) specifically with C++, the C++ forums are where you want to
>> go to get help and provide input.

>
> You mean if I post such an attitude in the C++
> forums I won't be taken as a troll?
>
> <shrug>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/msg/ea96d2db4a7ebea8>
> </shrug>

<yep>
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....54cf18307dc8d2
</yep>


 
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plenty900@yahoo.com
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      05-31-2008

> I think you are a troll here. *I don't
> care what they think of you on some other
> group I do not read.
> Andrew T.
> PhySci.org


http://physci.org/ eh? Looks like a spam site.
 
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Andrew Thompson
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      05-31-2008
On Jun 1, 5:33*am, plenty...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I think you are a troll here. *I don't
> > care what they think of you on some other
> > group I do not read.


(trimmed, reinserted)
> > --

(/trimmed, reinserted)

> > Andrew T.
> > PhySci.org


Please trim sigs. from replies in future.

> http://physci.org/ eh? Looks like a spam site.


Not when it is quoted by someone else (even
a troll), or in a sig., as I had it.

..watch for the sig.

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plenty900@yahoo.com
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      06-01-2008

> Please trim sigs. from replies in future.


Yes, we wouldn't want you to profit monetarily from your SPAMMING this
newsgroup with inane comments.

You think I'm a troll, eh? Paranoia like yours could be a sign of
mental illness.
 
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