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"sam" <> wrote in message news:4822c2fc$...
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>>>>>>>>> "Crash" <> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 12:52:49 +1200, "blanking" <blanking@brain>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> "Geoff" <> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you with Ihug - aka Islug?
>>>>>>>>>>>> They are always slow, and it is slower than dialup tonight -
>>>>>>>>>>>> bad even for
>>>>>>>>>>>> them. Why doesn't the fair trading act apply to ISPs?
>>>>>>>>>>> It does, it's just that for some reason nobody has bothered to
>>>>>>>>>>> test it, in
>>>>>>>>>>> my case I simply don't have the time but that can't be the
>>>>>>>>>>> reason for
>>>>>>>>>>> everybody, of course a lot of people swallow the spin that it is
>>>>>>>>>>> not the
>>>>>>>>>>> ISPs fault, good old kiwis just accept whatever they are told.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Its a pity you don't have the time - because if you did you would
>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>> out exactly how inaccurate your comments are. If you have a few
>>>>>>>>>> minutes go to www.comcom.govt.nz and use the site search box. I
>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>> 'isp speeds' - it gave 118 results and 5 minutes spent going
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> the headline list should yield a few articles worth reading. You
>>>>>>>>>> might want to use other keywords. Then come back here and report
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> you found (remember to keep the URLs as cites). You might just
>>>>>>>>>> earn a
>>>>>>>>>> little respect here for doing this 8-|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Crash.
>>>>>>>>> I don't have the time to waste on you, that's for sure, you have
>>>>>>>>> already proven with your earlier comments that you are not
>>>>>>>>> interested in the facts or the truth, just in spinning a load of
>>>>>>>>> bs to support your conclusions, do you really expect me to take
>>>>>>>>> you seriously, are you that deluded that you cannot even see when
>>>>>>>>> someone is not susceptible to your bs or is it that you have some
>>>>>>>>> sort of commercial vested interest in perpetuating your story and
>>>>>>>>> so are just desperately defending this vested interest in fear
>>>>>>>>> that the truth may spread.
>>>>>>>> What is your distance from the exchange ?
>>>>>>>> Could your lower speeds during busy periods be due to crosstalk ?
>>>>>>>> Crosstalk is the main limiting factor for adsl
>>>>>>> Thanks but I have already determined that it is definitely an isp
>>>>>>> bandwidth problem, I have been through this before on this newsgroup
>>>>>>> and anything anybody ever suggests I have already covered one way or
>>>>>>> another and normally the suggestions are redundant given the
>>>>>>> already known facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think i better state again for the sake of those that have picked
>>>>>> this thread up midway, despite what some of the replies to me might
>>>>>> indicate I never asked for help or advice on what was causing my slow
>>>>>> internet experience, what I asked was if anyone had a suggestion of a
>>>>>> isp that provided a better and more consistent speed than I was
>>>>>> getting, I got 1 reply to this, the rest of the repliers either
>>>>>> cannot read and understand a question or more likely are just looking
>>>>>> for any excuse to try and prove to the world and themselves that they
>>>>>> know better, a tireless task that must be.
>>>>> However all isps have to contend with Telecoms long lines, if you are
>>>>> getting really bad speeds, it might not be just a matter of changing
>>>>> your isp. You might have to wait for their cabinetisation project to
>>>>> be completed. You found out some other people have issues with your
>>>>> isp, but its far from clear that that is actually what your problem
>>>>> is.
>>>> Given all the facts I have, it's clear to me and that's all that
>>>> matters to me.
>>> But your thread title asks if it is just your isp, and the answer could
>>> be no, it is due to other factors, you don't have enough facts yet until
>>> you can isolate the variables.
>>>
>>
>> Yes I do, I have not explained them all here if that's what you think.
> Since you opened the debate with your question, you should answer it here,
> unless you are just trolling.

Sorry but I have bashed my head against a brick wall too many times here in
the past already, I'm not going to do it anymore, I'm out of here.

On Fri, 09 May 2008 14:55:50 +1200, Crash <>
wrote:
>Blanking seems to be on a very short fuse Sam. Comes in here asking a
>question, gives us a few selected facts with no cites or other
>supporting info and when we call him/her on this gets all affronted.
>The silly prick even accused me of working for an ISP earlier in this
>thread. Clearly not been here long and I think he/she meant that as a
>slur.
>
>So he/she wont be back. Promises, promises
>
>Crash.

Can you folks learn to reply without quoting the whole damn thread?

Scrolling down 98 lines to get to the last 10 lines is a PITA (That is
not an excuse to top post either.)


Cheers, Rhino

In article <>, Crash <> wrote:
>On Fri, 09 May 2008 20:24:22 +1200, Rhino <> wrote:
(snip)
>>
>>Can you folks learn to reply without quoting the whole damn thread?
>>
>>Scrolling down 98 lines to get to the last 10 lines is a PITA (That is
>>not an excuse to top post either.)
>
>I considered doing that in my previous post - but decided to leave in
>those lines so that others could see what my 'short fuse' conclusion
>was based on. Honest

... You had a forget, didn't you. You know that threading gives us what
we need to see ... and much more than we need.