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peterwn
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      05-02-2008
On May 2, 7:56 pm, Rob Simpson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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> Does anyone know if the ReiserFS is going to be maintained while he is
> away on Her Majesty's Service? Doesn't look too hopeful according to this
> articlehttp://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8647
>


Ordinary Linux users use the ext3 file system. Alternative Linux file
systems such as ReiserFS are used for specialist applications where
they offer superior performance for such specific applications. Hence
any demise of ReiserFS would not affect the average user.

Having said that, it is worth noting that a few years ago there were
two suicides associated with the Noorda (Mr Noodra founded and later
sold off Novell) family's wresting control of a proprietary software
holding company called Canopy from an allegedly wayward chief
executive. The IT chief laid violent hands on himself having been in
grave breach of fiduciary duty by giving the ousted CEO a complete
backup of the company's data. The other was the Noodras' daughter who
had the guts to mastermind the operation. Why she chose to take her
own life remains a mystery and was somewhat surprising as the
operation was concluded successfully. This goes to show tragic
occurrances are not just confined to GNU/Linux people.

 
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      05-02-2008
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Smoking Causes Lung
Cancer (SCLC) did write:

> The Reiser File system is the default file system for SuSE Linux.


Not since 10.2, possibly earlier.
 
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      05-02-2008
Smoking Causes Lung Cancer (SCLC) wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:23:42 -0700, peterwn wrote:
>
>>> Does anyone know if the ReiserFS is going to be maintained while he is
>>> away on Her Majesty's Service? Doesn't look too hopeful according to
>>> this articlehttp://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8647
>>>
>>>

>> Ordinary Linux users use the ext3 file system. Alternative Linux file
>> systems such as ReiserFS are used for specialist applications where they
>> offer superior performance for such specific applications. Hence any
>> demise of ReiserFS would not affect the average user.

>
> The Reiser File system is the default file system for SuSE Linux.
>

Really? The three or four times I've installed it it installed ext2/3.

Cheers,

Cliff

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      05-03-2008
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Rob Simpson did write:

> I'm still mulling over buying an Asus EEe. Does the cut down version of
> Xandros installed on the Linux version use ReiserFS?


No. ext2 on the read-only (preinstalled) partition, ext3 on the read/write
one, and unionfs to join them together.
 
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      05-03-2008
Smoking Causes Lung Cancer (SCLC) wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2008 11:50:51 +1200, Enkidu wrote:
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>>> The Reiser File system is the default file system for SuSE Linux.
>>>
>>>

>> Really? The three or four times I've installed it it installed
>> ext2/3.

>
> Was that on top of an already existing file system?
>

No.
>
> The last time I installed SuSE it suggested Reiser as the file system
> type. I changed it from the default to EXT3
>

No, this now has me confused. I'm thinking that because I didn't take
the suggested defaults that it decided I wanted ext2/3? Maybe. I
certainly don't remember being asked to choose the FS type. But I could
have been on autopilot.

Cheers,

Cliff

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peterwn
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      05-03-2008
On May 3, 10:52 pm, Enkidu <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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> No, this now has me confused. I'm thinking that because I didn't take
> the suggested defaults that it decided I wanted ext2/3? Maybe. I
> certainly don't remember being asked to choose the FS type. But I could
> have been on autopilot.
>


The main point that emerges is that Linux is not critically dependent
on ReiserFS. If ReiserFS has sufficient advantages to justify
continued use, then those interested will set the scene to encourage
its continued and maintenance. It may be that RiserFS will simply
slide into obsolesence.

Compare with ext3 which is starting to suffer limitations because of
Moores Law, the main ones being maximum partition size, maximum file
size and maximum number of files. Hence the development of ext4.
Since the ext series are 'general purpose' file systems, they may not
perform optimally for certain specialised large scale applications,
hence there will be continuing development of such file systms. These
may well include Reiser's features, but with the name perpetuated only
to the extent required for GPL copyright credits.
 
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      05-04-2008
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> Compare with ext3 which is starting to suffer limitations because of
> Moores Law ...


What has Moore's Law got to do with hard drive sizes?

The real problem with hard drives is that their error rates are not
improving. That means that, as they get larger, the chance of hitting an
I/O error during a scan of the entire drive approaches 100%. Which causes
real problems for things like RAID rebuilds.

Hence the new direction in filesystems exemplified by ZFS, HAMMER, btrfs
etc.
 
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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      05-06-2008
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Allistar did
write:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Smoking Causes Lung
>> Cancer (SCLC) did write:
>>
>>> The Reiser File system is the default file system for SuSE Linux.

>>
>> Not since 10.2, possibly earlier.

>
> It's the default on SLES9 (although that's getting a bit long in the tooth
> now).


Anything with "Enterprise" in its name immediately sends me into yawning
fits.
 
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