Calling all firefox users. Do your fonts look faint and washed out?

Heh, that sounds like a soap powder advert!

When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
much heavier and more readable.

Imagine if you will that the text in IE was in bold but the FF text
was not, except that the IE text is *not* bold so the FF text must be
in ultra skinny mode.

I've looked through the options and I can't see any that affect the
text other than font scaling,l and thats normal.

Is this just how FF shows things or have I tweaked something in the
past?

Mike.

Mike Barnard wrote:

> When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
> much heavier and more readable.

Looks pretty much the same to me.

Remember, it all depends on the visitor's (or your) chosen default font
size .. per each browser.

The only thing I notice is the paragr .. whoops, heading? .. of "Things
to add: Email newsletter, ..."

#content h4
....
font-weight: normal;

Looks like Firefox is respecting that, and IE is not. But "normal" is
the default, so you don't need to use it.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:01:09 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<> wrote:

>Mike Barnard wrote:
>
>> When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
>> much heavier and more readable.
>
>Looks pretty much the same to me.

I've tried screencapping it without sucess. I'll try again later but
here they're vastly different. BUT the default font size of 16 is the
same, the font is the same but FF just looks.... thin.

>Remember, it all depends on the visitor's (or your) chosen default font
>size .. per each browser.
>
>The only thing I notice is the paragr .. whoops, heading? .. of "Things
>to add: Email newsletter, ..."
>
>#content h4
>...
>font-weight: normal;

Legacy. It'll be cleared out in the end. If I remember! As the site
can now be seen, I guess it would be good to remove that bit!

>Looks like Firefox is respecting that, and IE is not. But "normal" is
>the default, so you don't need to use it.

Thanks.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> #content h4
> ...
> font-weight: normal;
>
> Looks like Firefox is respecting that, and IE is not. But "normal" is
> the default, so you don't need to use it.

I believe font-weight:bold is the default for all heading levels.

--
Berg

On 27 Mar 2008, Mike Barnard <> wrote:

> Heh, that sounds like a soap powder advert!
>
> When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
> much heavier and more readable.
>
> Imagine if you will that the text in IE was in bold but the FF text
> was not, except that the IE text is *not* bold so the FF text must be
> in ultra skinny mode.
>
> I've looked through the options and I can't see any that affect the
> text other than font scaling,l and thats normal.
>
> Is this just how FF shows things or have I tweaked something in the
> past?

I believe it's a color issue.

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http://www.neredbojias.com/
Great sights and sounds

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:36:12 +0000, Mike Barnard
<> wrote:

>When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
>much heavier and more readable.

Finally got a comparison screencap.

http://www.thermachek.com/test/index.html

Looking closer it looks as though the IE text is antialiased, but the
FF one isn't. Is there an option in FF to do this? I can't see one,
but we all know I sometimes miss the obvious!

Mike Barnard wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:36:12 +0000, Mike Barnard
> <> wrote:
>
>> When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
>> much heavier and more readable.
>
> Finally got a comparison screencap.
>
> http://www.thermachek.com/test/index.html
>
> Looking closer it looks as though the IE text is antialiased, but the
> FF one isn't. Is there an option in FF to do this? I can't see one,
> but we all know I sometimes miss the obvious!
>

Perhaps ...

Tools - Options - Content - Fonts & Colors - Advanced. Check to see if
you have unchecked "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my
selections above".

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
There's only two things that money can't buy and that's true love and
home grown tomatoes. - Guy Clark

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:31:44 -0400, Ed Mullen <> wrote:

>Mike Barnard wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:36:12 +0000, Mike Barnard
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
>>> much heavier and more readable.
>>
>> Finally got a comparison screencap.
>>
>> http://www.thermachek.com/test/index.html
>>
>> Looking closer it looks as though the IE text is antialiased, but the
>> FF one isn't. Is there an option in FF to do this? I can't see one,
>> but we all know I sometimes miss the obvious!
>>
>
>Perhaps ...
>
>Tools - Options - Content - Fonts & Colors - Advanced. Check to see if
>you have unchecked "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my
>selections above".

No, that is checked. The fonts are identical looking at the pixel
structure of the letters, it's just antialiasing I'm sure. Oh well,
no setting that I can see. In face I have just gone through the
settings in IE and can see nothing there. Just another browser
difference I suppose.

Mike Barnard wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:36:12 +0000, Mike Barnard
> <> wrote:
>
>> When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
>> much heavier and more readable.
>
> Finally got a comparison screencap.
>
> http://www.thermachek.com/test/index.html
>
> Looking closer it looks as though the IE text is antialiased, but the
> FF one isn't. Is there an option in FF to do this? I can't see one,
> but we all know I sometimes miss the obvious!
>


I got the same effect when I recently downloaded IE7. It does'nt happen
in IE6. Apparently it's because IE7 uses Clear Type font smoothing by
default:

http://ie7css.info/features/ie7-upgr...smoothing.html

You can activate font smoothing in FF but have to apply it to all of
Windows:

http://chris.calabrese.org/?p=27

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:33:58 +0000, albert hall
<> wrote:

>Mike Barnard wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:36:12 +0000, Mike Barnard
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> When I look at my site in FF the text appears ... thin. Yet in IE it's
>>> much heavier and more readable.
>>
>> Finally got a comparison screencap.
>>
>> http://www.thermachek.com/test/index.html
>>
>> Looking closer it looks as though the IE text is antialiased, but the
>> FF one isn't. Is there an option in FF to do this? I can't see one,
>> but we all know I sometimes miss the obvious!
>>
>
>
>I got the same effect when I recently downloaded IE7. It does'nt happen
>in IE6. Apparently it's because IE7 uses Clear Type font smoothing by
>default:
>
>http://ie7css.info/features/ie7-upgr...smoothing.html
>
>You can activate font smoothing in FF but have to apply it to all of
>Windows:
>
>http://chris.calabrese.org/?p=27

BINGO! You got it, thanks. I've just tet my PC to Clear Type and FF
instantly became clearer, darker and...nicer. I'll just have to
suggest that all other users try this option.

Oh, yes, I have a nice Asus 22" widescreen, very digital indeed. I'll
go to the library or somewhere with older analogue monitors and see
what it looks like there.

I'm glad it wasn't my eyesight!