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Mine was the original post questioning how to filter google groups.

I could not find a way to filter on googlegroups in Message ID using
Thunderbird or OE in combination with News Proxy.

What I did, is something one of the replys to my post suggested. Using the
tools/message rules in outlook express, I set up a rule to block on the from
line. Reading the headers in OE, all that shows up in the from column is a
name or initials. Behind that however is a full email address, visible only
if you click on properties while the message line is highlighted. As
someone pointed out, most of the crap that is posted from googlegroups comes
from gmail or some other google email account. By ruling out a handful of
google related email sources, most of the spam is gone. The names I've
inserted into my rule are "google, groups.google.com, gmail, googlemail,etc.
I've just added the email of the replica watch posters, and yahoo.com.cn,
which have been the source of other recent spam.

Those spam messages from "dale" that snuck through this AM were easily delt
with using the "block sender" under message in OE. All were posted from a
single email address.

I'm still seeing posts complaining about the spam, but virtually all of the
spam is gone.

I know that this isn't a perfect solution, but for right now, it seems to be
working pretty well. Thanks to Tom D for setting me on the right track.

EQR

er wrote:
> Mine was the original post questioning how to filter google groups.
>
> I could not find a way to filter on googlegroups in Message ID using
> Thunderbird or OE in combination with News Proxy.
>
> What I did, is something one of the replys to my post suggested. Using the
> tools/message rules in outlook express, I set up a rule to block on the from
> line. Reading the headers in OE, all that shows up in the from column is a
> name or initials. Behind that however is a full email address, visible only
> if you click on properties while the message line is highlighted. As
> someone pointed out, most of the crap that is posted from googlegroups comes
> from gmail or some other google email account. By ruling out a handful of
> google related email sources, most of the spam is gone. The names I've
> inserted into my rule are "google, groups.google.com, gmail, googlemail,etc.
> I've just added the email of the replica watch posters, and yahoo.com.cn,
> which have been the source of other recent spam.
>
> Those spam messages from "dale" that snuck through this AM were easily delt
> with using the "block sender" under message in OE. All were posted from a
> single email address.
>
> I'm still seeing posts complaining about the spam, but virtually all of the
> spam is gone.
>
> I know that this isn't a perfect solution, but for right now, it seems to be
> working pretty well. Thanks to Tom D for setting me on the right track.
>
> EQR
>
>
Check this message in alt.comp.freeware for detailed info on using Tbird
and Newsproxy(nfilter) for eliminating google groupers.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...4e2ac242e42ead

Dave

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Dave wrote:

> er wrote:
>> Mine was the original post questioning how to filter google groups.
>>
>> I could not find a way to filter on googlegroups in Message ID using
>> Thunderbird or OE in combination with News Proxy.
>>
>> What I did, is something one of the replys to my post suggested. Using
>> the tools/message rules in outlook express, I set up a rule to block on
>> the from line. Reading the headers in OE, all that shows up in the from
>> column is a name or initials. Behind that however is a full email
>> address, visible only if you click on properties while the message line
>> is highlighted. As someone pointed out, most of the crap that is posted
>> from googlegroups comes from gmail or some other google email account.
>> By ruling out a handful of google related email sources, most of the
>> spam is gone. The names I've inserted into my rule are "google,
>> groups.google.com, gmail, googlemail,etc. I've just added the email of
>> the replica watch posters, and yahoo.com.cn, which have been the source
>> of other recent spam.
>>
>> Those spam messages from "dale" that snuck through this AM were easily
>> delt with using the "block sender" under message in OE. All were posted
>> from a single email address.
>>
>> I'm still seeing posts complaining about the spam, but virtually all of
>> the spam is gone.
>>
>> I know that this isn't a perfect solution, but for right now, it seems
>> to be working pretty well. Thanks to Tom D for setting me on the right
>> track.
>>
>> EQR
>>
>>
> Check this message in alt.comp.freeware for detailed info on using Tbird
> and Newsproxy(nfilter) for eliminating google groupers.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...4e2ac242e42ead

Aye. nfilter (now named NewsProxy) is one of the two local servers
explained here...

http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html

Of course, with clients with stronger built-in filtering capabilities such
additional software is not needed to cull GG posts by their Message-ID
headers.


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Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:52:42 -0800, Blinky the Shark
<> wrote:

>Aye. nfilter (now named NewsProxy) is one of the two local servers
>explained here...
>
>http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html
>
>Of course, with clients with stronger built-in filtering capabilities such
>additional software is not needed to cull GG posts by their Message-ID
>headers.

Aye, but since I'm cheap and use the free version of Agent (which
doesn't enable filtering) I just use NewsProxy 1.2.4 to do my
filtering for me. Works great.

Steve

Steve wrote:

>
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:52:42 -0800, Blinky the Shark <>
> wrote:
>
>>Aye. nfilter (now named NewsProxy) is one of the two local servers
>>explained here...
>>
>>http://improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html
>>
>>Of course, with clients with stronger built-in filtering capabilities
>>such additional software is not needed to cull GG posts by their
>>Message-ID headers.
>
> Aye, but since I'm cheap and use the free version of Agent (which doesn't
> enable filtering) I just use NewsProxy 1.2.4 to do my filtering for me.
> Works great.

Uh...I know. Once more: NewsProxy is one of my recommendations.

Anyway, even the full version of Agent can't filter well. You'd still
need a proxy to pre-chew you groups for it. (But, of course, there are
other FREE news clients that have good filtering on their own; so the "I'm
cheap" part doesn't necessarily rule out their use.)


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Killing all posts from Google Groups
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Blinky: http://blinkynet.net

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:37:33 GMT, "er" <> wrote:

>Mine was the original post questioning how to filter google groups.

Another thing is someone could issue rogue cancels. One is not supposed to
cancel articles that they didn't post. And some ISPs ignore cancel
messages. And this takes a little work. But it is effective...

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Blinky the Shark <> wrote:

>Don Wiss wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:37:33 GMT, "er" <> wrote:
>>
>>>Mine was the original post questioning how to filter google groups.
>>
>> Another thing is someone could issue rogue cancels. One is not supposed to
>> cancel articles that they didn't post. And some ISPs ignore cancel
>> messages. And this takes a little work. But it is effective...
>
>I think that by now, *most* news feeds (ISP or otherwise) ignore cancels.
>
>Too much abuse from third-party cancels.

My Panix ISP does not ignore them. I also have a Verizon account that comes
with my DSL. They ignore them.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Blinky the Shark <> wrote:

>Anyway, even the full version of Agent can't filter well.

Actually it does. It supports expressions. It is in the help. It is not
easy, unless you already know expressions from elsewhere.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Don Wiss wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:37:33 GMT, "er" <> wrote:
>>
>>> Mine was the original post questioning how to filter google groups.
>> Another thing is someone could issue rogue cancels. One is not supposed to
>> cancel articles that they didn't post. And some ISPs ignore cancel
>> messages. And this takes a little work. But it is effective...
>
> I think that by now, *most* news feeds (ISP or otherwise) ignore cancels.
>
> Too much abuse from third-party cancels.

I just had to add a filter that deletes cancel messages

I did get NewsProxy working though so google groups should be gone.

Don Wiss wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:37:33 GMT, "er" <> wrote:
>
>>Mine was the original post questioning how to filter google groups.
>
> Another thing is someone could issue rogue cancels. One is not supposed to
> cancel articles that they didn't post. And some ISPs ignore cancel
> messages. And this takes a little work. But it is effective...

I think that by now, *most* news feeds (ISP or otherwise) ignore cancels.

Too much abuse from third-party cancels.


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Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net