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shareyourknowledge@hotmail.com
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      03-16-2008
On Mar 14, 5:07*pm, Bluesplayer <bluesplaye...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 10 Mar, 22:52, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
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> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Lately, my computer has been running slow, but this morning the
> > computer wouldn't go to Windows. It just kept re-booting. I read
> > overheating can be one problem so I checked inside and it is fairly
> > dust-free. The fan is working, although it makes a high-pitched noise.
> > The cpu temp. runs about 104 degrees. I don't know if this is too high
> > or if it's a normal temp.I noticed a lithium battery on the
> > motherboard. I think it runs the clock but i wasn't sure if a bad
> > battery can also co tribute to a slow or overheated computer.Any
> > suggestion on what to check?

>
> I had exactly the same problem , the cure for me was this .:
>
> First disconnect power supply and remove all cards ide cables and ram
> Next get the hoover and clean the board of any dust and suck out all
> slots .
> Get some isopropyl , ( square shaped medical swabs are ideal ), and
> clean all the copper contacts on each card , and also fold a swab in
> half and push it into all the slots and clean inside , including ram
> slots , everything even rub over the board just get everything very
> very clean . Hoover once more .
> Now replace everything and reboot , enter your bios and choose fail
> safe options .
>
> You can try booting at this stage , but i strongly recommend you to re-
> install windows, just to eliminate a corrupt registry
>
> This worked for me .

I'll try these ideas and see what happens. Thanks.
 
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      03-18-2008
On Mar 15, 11:32*pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'll try these ideas and see what happens. Thanks


If cleaning contacts, cleaning dust, etc solves anyting, then your
hardware defect remains. That 'cleaning and reseating' recommendation
will only cure symptoms; does not solve any problems.

To find and fix the problem, what do system (event) logs say about
the defect? What do the logs state about the reboot? IOW get facts
long before suspecting any component. What does Device Manager
report? What do the comprehensive hardware diagnostics (provided free
by responsible computer manufacturers) report?
 
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      03-18-2008
On 18 Mar, 01:54, w_tom <w_t...@usa.net> wrote:
> On Mar 15, 11:32 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
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> <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I'll try these ideas and see what happens. Thanks

>
> If cleaning contacts, cleaning dust, etc solves anyting, then your
> hardware defect remains. That 'cleaning and reseating' recommendation
> will only cure symptoms; does not solve any problems.
>
> To find and fix the problem, what do system (event) logs say about
> the defect? What do the logs state about the reboot? IOW get facts
> long before suspecting any component. What does Device Manager
> report? What do the comprehensive hardware diagnostics (provided free
> by responsible computer manufacturers) report?



I dont understand , if , after a deep clean your problem is
resolved , how can they still be a hardware problem ?
 
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      03-18-2008
On Mar 18, 3:13*am, Bluesplayer <bluesplaye...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Mar, 01:54, w_tom <w_t...@usa.net> wrote:
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> > On Mar 15, 11:32 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"

>
> > <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'll try these ideas and see what happens. Thanks

>
> > * If cleaning contacts, cleaning dust, etc solves anyting, then your
> > hardware defect remains. *That 'cleaning and reseating' recommendation
> > will only cure symptoms; does not solve any problems.

>
> > *To find and fix the problem, what do system (event) logs say about
> > the defect? What do the logs state about the reboot? *IOW get facts
> > long before suspecting any component. What does Device Manager
> > report? *What do the comprehensive hardware diagnostics (provided free
> > by responsible computer manufacturers) report?

>
> *I dont understand , if , after a deep clean your problem is
> resolved , how can they still be a hardware problem ?


I don't get any prompts or any messages about defects. I apologize for
not explaining any better. I'm not computer savvy.I get a screen that
flashes quickly (too quick to read the text) and then i get a one
second hum coming from inside the computer case. Then the computer re-
boots. I've tried booting in all modes (safe mode, last known
configuration, etc but no success) I'll need to do some more involved
testing when i have time. Thanks to all for your advice.
 
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      03-18-2008
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> On Mar 18, 3:13Â*am, Bluesplayer <bluesplaye...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 18 Mar, 01:54, w_tom <w_t...@usa.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 15, 11:32 pm, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"

>>
>> > <shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > I'll try these ideas and see what happens. Thanks

>>
>> > If cleaning contacts, cleaning dust, etc solves anyting, then your
>> > hardware defect remains. Â*That 'cleaning and reseating'
>> > recommendation will only cure symptoms; does not solve any
>> > problems.

>>
>> > To find and fix the problem, what do system (event) logs say about
>> > the defect? What do the logs state about the reboot? Â*IOW get facts
>> > long before suspecting any component. What does Device Manager
>> > report? Â*What do the comprehensive hardware diagnostics (provided
>> > free by responsible computer manufacturers) report?


How on earth is the OP expected to view logs, device manager or run
diagnostics on a non booting machine ????

>> I dont understand , if , after a deep clean your problem is
>> resolved , how can they still be a hardware problem ?


I think that what w-tom is trying to say is, it is a hardware problem
that is not going to be cured by cleaning. Trouble is he goes around
the houses first.

> I don't get any prompts or any messages about defects. I apologize for
> not explaining any better. I'm not computer savvy.I get a screen that
> flashes quickly (too quick to read the text) and then i get a one
> second hum coming from inside the computer case. Then the computer re-
> boots. I've tried booting in all modes (safe mode, last known
> configuration, etc but no success) I'll need to do some more involved
> testing when i have time. Thanks to all for your advice.


I think that you could have a hardware problem, though without more
specific information it would be difficult to pin down.

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Baron.
 
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w_tom
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      03-18-2008
On Mar 18, 9:47 am, "shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com"
<shareyourknowle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I don't get any prompts or any messages about defects. I apologize for
> not explaining any better. I'm not computer savvy.I get a screen that
> flashes quickly (too quick to read the text) and then i get a one
> second hum coming from inside the computer case. Then the computer re-
> boots. I've tried booting in all modes (safe mode, last known
> configuration, etc but no success) I'll need to do some more involved
> testing when i have time.


This is not about being computer savvy. Stick only to what is
known; assume nothing, and using talent available here. Time to
start all over again. Be life savvy. Follow and report only the
evidence.

Computer powers up, makes a noise, then reboots. This is all that
is known? IOW we should disregard all previous posts to ask questions
relevant to what is actually known. How long between releasing the
power button and reboot - in seconds.

Does computer ever go through an initial startup program (also
called the BIOS) basic computer hardware identified or maybe a
manufacturer logo is displayed? Long before a computer even looks as
disk drive data (and the OS), it must execute a program to discover
hardware integrity, learn what memory is installed, talk to the video
card in a text only mode, etc. Implied previously was that BIOS
programs are executing without error, and then loading data from the
disk drive. If booting in safe mode, then system does boot - then
crash? However the latest post says otherwise; BIOS execution does not
complete. Which is it?

More responsible computer manufacturers provide comprehensive
hardware diagnostics for your problems. If your manufacturer is not
so responsible, then locate hardware diagnostics for individual
components. These diagnostic are loaded by the BIOS; OS and disk drive
is not involved. Another example of breaking a problem down into
parts - what we do for all problems in life. Do these self-standing
diagnostics load and execute? Do they load from a CD-Rom, floppy
drive, or memory stick? Do you have those loading options? Or does
BIOS fail long before those options are available?

You don't need to do more testing. Instead, take advantage of
skills available here. But replies will only be as useful as the
facts that only you can provide. If you speculate and post those
speculations as fact, then your best source for assistance is made
useless. Important are specific facts such as how many seconds before
reboot (a number) and what exactly does and does not execute.
Currently, we don't even know if the BIOS finds memory. Does the
speaker even beep? How many times - another essential number that
makes replies useful.

Meanwhile cleaning dust and reseating cards are what the technically
naive recommend when not learning and utilizing sources for knowledge
and experience.
 
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