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It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I enlisted as
an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly good
HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a bit of
rummaging.

So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a wonderful
machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over your
shoulders for a while now!

I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though, since
I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for a
couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly after I
entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest' system
I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a Seasonic
PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few times -
CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day in
there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope it
is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.

Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the twin
XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap' when
I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or three
days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely. Removing it
was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few days
before that had stopped completely.

But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the carcas
over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under the
looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!


Tony. . .

(sigh!)

Tony................. have you tried a shot or two of "Bushmills".


"Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
news:O$...
> It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
> misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
> suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I enlisted
> as
> an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly
> good
> HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a bit
> of
> rummaging.
>
> So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a wonderful
> machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over your
> shoulders for a while now!
>
> I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though,
> since
> I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for a
> couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly after
> I
> entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest' system
> I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a Seasonic
> PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few times -
> CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day in
> there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope it
> is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
>
> Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the
> twin
> XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap'
> when
> I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or three
> days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely. Removing
> it
> was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few days
> before that had stopped completely.
>
> But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the carcas
> over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under the
> looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
> (sigh!)
>
>
>
>
>

Tony,
Sorry to hear that.
PC downtime is worst than a car downtime.
For what you describe it is not OS related.
First suspect is the PSU but...
Remove as much hardware as you can, even the HD's.
Get yourself a good old DOS floppy (your Win2k rig can do that, uh?) and a
copy of memtest86.
Boot your "un-hardwared" PC into DOS and leave it there for a couple of hours.
Then run memtest.
Best of luck.
Carlos
PS: you might also wanna try some prayings (any religion will do)

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
> misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
> suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I enlisted as
> an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly good
> HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a bit of
> rummaging.
>
> So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a wonderful
> machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over your
> shoulders for a while now!
>
> I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though, since
> I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for a
> couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly after I
> entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest' system
> I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a Seasonic
> PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few times -
> CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day in
> there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope it
> is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
>
> Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the twin
> XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap' when
> I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or three
> days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely. Removing it
> was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few days
> before that had stopped completely.
>
> But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the carcas
> over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under the
> looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
> (sigh!)
>
>
>
>
>
>

I must confess, that one is available here - but I didn't try it yet. I am
very much attracted to the Irish Sea varieties Talisker, Laphroigh, Caol
Isla - the latter of which I'll immerse my self into tomorrow. But not in a
'tarnished' mood!

But I'll put a note down for Bushmill's, thank you!


Tony. . .


"Kue2" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Tony................. have you tried a shot or two of "Bushmills".
>
>
> "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
> news:O$...
> > It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
> > misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
> > suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I
enlisted
> > as
> > an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly
> > good
> > HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a bit
> > of
> > rummaging.
> >
> > So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a
wonderful
> > machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over your
> > shoulders for a while now!
> >
> > I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though,
> > since
> > I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for a
> > couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly
after
> > I
> > entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest'
system
> > I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a
Seasonic
> > PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few
times -
> > CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day in
> > there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope
it
> > is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
> >
> > Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the
> > twin
> > XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap'
> > when
> > I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or three
> > days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely. Removing
> > it
> > was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few days
> > before that had stopped completely.
> >
> > But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the carcas
> > over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under
the
> > looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> > (sigh!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

This is good thinking, Carlos!

Tomorrow, I'll rip it of expendable devices and dig out that old UTBCD -
(UltimateBootCD!) The biggest trouble is that I am not able to keep (it) up
for any lenght of time that I can learn what might be happening, which
suggests the PSU, I think?

Memory would likely throw crashes and BSOD's but I didn't have a single one
of those - the machine just turns itself off in complete silence. I am
thinking of naming it 'Marvin' (Marvin - the Paranoid Android, being one of
my heroe's!) in an effort to actually accept the behavior.


Tony. . .



"Carlos" <> wrote in message
news6F25A11-1478-4ADB-83FF-...
> Tony,
> Sorry to hear that.
> PC downtime is worst than a car downtime.
> For what you describe it is not OS related.
> First suspect is the PSU but...
> Remove as much hardware as you can, even the HD's.
> Get yourself a good old DOS floppy (your Win2k rig can do that, uh?) and a
> copy of memtest86.
> Boot your "un-hardwared" PC into DOS and leave it there for a couple of
hours.
> Then run memtest.
> Best of luck.
> Carlos
> PS: you might also wanna try some prayings (any religion will do)
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
> > misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
> > suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I
enlisted as
> > an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly
good
> > HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a bit
of
> > rummaging.
> >
> > So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a
wonderful
> > machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over your
> > shoulders for a while now!
> >
> > I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though,
since
> > I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for a
> > couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly
after I
> > entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest'
system
> > I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a
Seasonic
> > PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few
times -
> > CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day in
> > there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope
it
> > is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
> >
> > Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the
twin
> > XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap'
when
> > I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or three
> > days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely. Removing
it
> > was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few days
> > before that had stopped completely.
> >
> > But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the carcas
> > over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under
the
> > looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> > (sigh!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

The psu usually shows up as a problem during boot (that is the heaviest
load). I would investigate the mobo.

"Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
news:O$...
> It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
> misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
> suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I enlisted
> as
> an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly
> good
> HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a bit
> of
> rummaging.
>
> So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a wonderful
> machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over your
> shoulders for a while now!
>
> I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though,
> since
> I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for a
> couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly after
> I
> entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest' system
> I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a Seasonic
> PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few times -
> CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day in
> there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope it
> is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
>
> Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the
> twin
> XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap'
> when
> I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or three
> days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely. Removing
> it
> was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few days
> before that had stopped completely.
>
> But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the carcas
> over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under the
> looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
> (sigh!)
>
>
>
>
>

This is my problem - the Seasonic is extremely good quality. It's of the
kind you look and see the quality of a gem. That doesn't prevent it from
having a bad component, but this component could just as easily have a point
of weakness that is triggered by something else as it could be having a
'load' problem on it's own? The same goes for the motherboard. I think this
is a troubleshooters nightmare if you are not in a position where you have
the equipment to test your way methodically through all the sub-systems.

But - I am beginning to realize that I am a bit lucky as well, because I am
about to order a very expensive monitor from the people who build the
machine according to my specifications. I am certainly not going to do that
before I have seen how they handle this critical mission - and this puts me
in a situation where I can let them get a 'whif' of my intensions. After
all, if it's the motherboard, it will be a borderline warranty affair - if
it's the PSU there is no question. I want to make sure that they will not
jump at the chance to rip me off for a new board while swapping out the PSU
from one of their demo machines! Or something?

Yes, I do agree. This could well be the board, but I will be much less
likely to uncover that myself, if it is. I think for the moment, that
Carlo's idea of stripping it down, see'ing if it has any effect at all has
the best kind of methodology (is that the word?) I can hope for. If it
doesn't reveal anything - then I will be much more likely to throw it at the
motherboard. Right now, it'll be blowing in the wind.


Tony. . .



"Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
news:0930DE69-95F1-4AE1-B12E-...
> The psu usually shows up as a problem during boot (that is the heaviest
> load). I would investigate the mobo.
>
> "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
> news:O$...
> > It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
> > misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
> > suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I
enlisted
> > as
> > an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly
> > good
> > HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a bit
> > of
> > rummaging.
> >
> > So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a
wonderful
> > machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over your
> > shoulders for a while now!
> >
> > I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though,
> > since
> > I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for a
> > couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly
after
> > I
> > entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest'
system
> > I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a
Seasonic
> > PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few
times -
> > CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day in
> > there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope
it
> > is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
> >
> > Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the
> > twin
> > XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap'
> > when
> > I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or three
> > days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely. Removing
> > it
> > was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few days
> > before that had stopped completely.
> >
> > But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the carcas
> > over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under
the
> > looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> > (sigh!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

PSU, or equally likely, a failing "something" that is shorting to ground.
That could be any of your cards, or even a bad capacitor. So pull everything
you can and if you have the ability to plug an old, but known good, video
into it (or it has an onboard), that would be good.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This is good thinking, Carlos!
>
> Tomorrow, I'll rip it of expendable devices and dig out that old UTBCD -
> (UltimateBootCD!) The biggest trouble is that I am not able to keep (it)
> up
> for any lenght of time that I can learn what might be happening, which
> suggests the PSU, I think?
>
> Memory would likely throw crashes and BSOD's but I didn't have a single
> one
> of those - the machine just turns itself off in complete silence. I am
> thinking of naming it 'Marvin' (Marvin - the Paranoid Android, being one
> of
> my heroe's!) in an effort to actually accept the behavior.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
> "Carlos" <> wrote in message
> news6F25A11-1478-4ADB-83FF-...
>> Tony,
>> Sorry to hear that.
>> PC downtime is worst than a car downtime.
>> For what you describe it is not OS related.
>> First suspect is the PSU but...
>> Remove as much hardware as you can, even the HD's.
>> Get yourself a good old DOS floppy (your Win2k rig can do that, uh?) and
>> a
>> copy of memtest86.
>> Boot your "un-hardwared" PC into DOS and leave it there for a couple of
> hours.
>> Then run memtest.
>> Best of luck.
>> Carlos
>> PS: you might also wanna try some prayings (any religion will do)
>>
>> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>>
>> > It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
>> > misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
>> > suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I
> enlisted as
>> > an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly
> good
>> > HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a
>> > bit
> of
>> > rummaging.
>> >
>> > So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a
> wonderful
>> > machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over
>> > your
>> > shoulders for a while now!
>> >
>> > I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though,
> since
>> > I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for
>> > a
>> > couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly
> after I
>> > entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest'
> system
>> > I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a
> Seasonic
>> > PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few
> times -
>> > CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day
>> > in
>> > there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope
> it
>> > is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
>> >
>> > Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the
> twin
>> > XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap'
> when
>> > I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or
>> > three
>> > days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely.
>> > Removing
> it
>> > was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few
>> > days
>> > before that had stopped completely.
>> >
>> > But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the
>> > carcas
>> > over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under
> the
>> > looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
>> >
>> >
>> > Tony. . .
>> >
>> > (sigh!)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

Seasonic are good. Very good. but as you say, it could still be that.
However, I'm more inclined to think it's a bad capacitor, shorting to
ground. The reason is that it takes a little time (as it starts to warm up)
before it fails. That capacitor could be on the mobo, in the PSU, or even on
a plug in card.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
news:%23E$...
> This is my problem - the Seasonic is extremely good quality. It's of the
> kind you look and see the quality of a gem. That doesn't prevent it from
> having a bad component, but this component could just as easily have a
> point
> of weakness that is triggered by something else as it could be having a
> 'load' problem on it's own? The same goes for the motherboard. I think
> this
> is a troubleshooters nightmare if you are not in a position where you have
> the equipment to test your way methodically through all the sub-systems.
>
> But - I am beginning to realize that I am a bit lucky as well, because I
> am
> about to order a very expensive monitor from the people who build the
> machine according to my specifications. I am certainly not going to do
> that
> before I have seen how they handle this critical mission - and this puts
> me
> in a situation where I can let them get a 'whif' of my intensions. After
> all, if it's the motherboard, it will be a borderline warranty affair - if
> it's the PSU there is no question. I want to make sure that they will not
> jump at the chance to rip me off for a new board while swapping out the
> PSU
> from one of their demo machines! Or something?
>
> Yes, I do agree. This could well be the board, but I will be much less
> likely to uncover that myself, if it is. I think for the moment, that
> Carlo's idea of stripping it down, see'ing if it has any effect at all has
> the best kind of methodology (is that the word?) I can hope for. If it
> doesn't reveal anything - then I will be much more likely to throw it at
> the
> motherboard. Right now, it'll be blowing in the wind.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
> news:0930DE69-95F1-4AE1-B12E-...
>> The psu usually shows up as a problem during boot (that is the heaviest
>> load). I would investigate the mobo.
>>
>> "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
>> news:O$...
>> > It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
>> > misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system commited
>> > suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I
> enlisted
>> > as
>> > an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a perfectly
>> > good
>> > HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a
>> > bit
>> > of
>> > rummaging.
>> >
>> > So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a
> wonderful
>> > machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over
>> > your
>> > shoulders for a while now!
>> >
>> > I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system, though,
>> > since
>> > I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run for
>> > a
>> > couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly
> after
>> > I
>> > entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest'
> system
>> > I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a
> Seasonic
>> > PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few
> times -
>> > CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day
>> > in
>> > there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I hope
> it
>> > is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
>> >
>> > Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on the
>> > twin
>> > XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool 'AI-Nap'
>> > when
>> > I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or
>> > three
>> > days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely.
>> > Removing
>> > it
>> > was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few
>> > days
>> > before that had stopped completely.
>> >
>> > But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the
>> > carcas
>> > over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under
> the
>> > looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
>> >
>> >
>> > Tony. . .
>> >
>> > (sigh!)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Yes, these are good points - I even remember Tom's Hardware had an article
once about searching out bad capacitors, I'll try and see if I can find that
one, and hopefully isolate the problem somewhat. It's allways nice to hand
it over to the shop and tell them to look for something specific - it'll
usually impress them if you are right, and they'll be looking hard for
something else on their own. Maybe. . .?

Tony. . .


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:FFDFEC2E-7749-4651-9F44-...
> Seasonic are good. Very good. but as you say, it could still be that.
> However, I'm more inclined to think it's a bad capacitor, shorting to
> ground. The reason is that it takes a little time (as it starts to warm
up)
> before it fails. That capacitor could be on the mobo, in the PSU, or even
on
> a plug in card.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
> news:%23E$...
> > This is my problem - the Seasonic is extremely good quality. It's of the
> > kind you look and see the quality of a gem. That doesn't prevent it from
> > having a bad component, but this component could just as easily have a
> > point
> > of weakness that is triggered by something else as it could be having a
> > 'load' problem on it's own? The same goes for the motherboard. I think
> > this
> > is a troubleshooters nightmare if you are not in a position where you
have
> > the equipment to test your way methodically through all the sub-systems.
> >
> > But - I am beginning to realize that I am a bit lucky as well, because I
> > am
> > about to order a very expensive monitor from the people who build the
> > machine according to my specifications. I am certainly not going to do
> > that
> > before I have seen how they handle this critical mission - and this puts
> > me
> > in a situation where I can let them get a 'whif' of my intensions. After
> > all, if it's the motherboard, it will be a borderline warranty affair -
if
> > it's the PSU there is no question. I want to make sure that they will
not
> > jump at the chance to rip me off for a new board while swapping out the
> > PSU
> > from one of their demo machines! Or something?
> >
> > Yes, I do agree. This could well be the board, but I will be much less
> > likely to uncover that myself, if it is. I think for the moment, that
> > Carlo's idea of stripping it down, see'ing if it has any effect at all
has
> > the best kind of methodology (is that the word?) I can hope for. If it
> > doesn't reveal anything - then I will be much more likely to throw it at
> > the
> > motherboard. Right now, it'll be blowing in the wind.
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
> > news:0930DE69-95F1-4AE1-B12E-...
> >> The psu usually shows up as a problem during boot (that is the heaviest
> >> load). I would investigate the mobo.
> >>
> >> "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
> >> news:O$...
> >> > It's not that I'm really whining, but I certainly had my share of
> >> > misfortunes just now! (I probably deserve it) My 64bit system
commited
> >> > suicide and the good old retired Athlon XP 2400+ machine, that I
> > enlisted
> >> > as
> >> > an immidiate reservist, refused to acknowledge that it had a
perfectly
> >> > good
> >> > HD a short while ago! A new flat-cable sorted that one after quite a
> >> > bit
> >> > of
> >> > rummaging.
> >> >
> >> > So, folks: "Here I am - back at the old Win2K, for now". What a
> > wonderful
> >> > machine this is - it never ceases to amaze me! I'll be reading over
> >> > your
> >> > shoulders for a while now!
> >> >
> >> > I can't really figure out what happened with the FX-62 system,
though,
> >> > since
> >> > I wasn't in the room when it shut down. When I restart, it may run
for
> >> > a
> >> > couple of minutes, or 20 perhaps, and one time it shut down shortly
> > after
> >> > I
> >> > entered the BIOS Setup. It's not hot at all, this is the 'Coolest'
> > system
> >> > I've ever had (in every respect). It inhabits a Antec box with a
> > Seasonic
> >> > PSU and a handfull of fans. I did manage to see the readout a few
> > times -
> >> > CPU 29*, MB 33*, and GPU 43* (threshold at 126*!) I spent a whole day
> >> > in
> >> > there and the only suspect I can come up with is the Seasonic - I
hope
> > it
> >> > is, because I think I can remember it came with a five year warranty.
> >> >
> >> > Avast has not made a sound or anything. The last thing I did was on
the
> >> > twin
> >> > XP Home system where I had mistakenly installed the Asus Tool
'AI-Nap'
> >> > when
> >> > I rebuild that system a short while ago, I had removed that two or
> >> > three
> >> > days earlier because it slowed down that system quite severely.
> >> > Removing
> >> > it
> >> > was a bit of an ordeal since parts of it kept popping up, but a few
> >> > days
> >> > before that had stopped completely.
> >> >
> >> > But this has taken me so long that I'm effectively stuck with the
> >> > carcas
> >> > over the week-end. If anybody have any idea what else I can put under
> > the
> >> > looking glass until then - let's hear it, please!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tony. . .
> >> >
> >> > (sigh!)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>