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While I like Toshiba as a company much more than Sony, it's somewhat amusing
and gratifying to rub this in the face of such trolls like that clown who
spammed the HD-DVD crap from shaw.net.

T.B.

T.B. wrote:

> http://www.news.com/Source-Toshiba-t...3-6230960.html
>
> While I like Toshiba as a company much more than Sony, it's somewhat
> amusing and gratifying to rub this in the face of such trolls

Toshiba could have settled at any time--
But they wanted to make it a "pride" issue, and Greek tragedy resulted.

But at least we know a bit more about Microsoft now than we did before
it started... -_-

Derek Janssen

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:59:54 GMT, Derek Janssen wrote:

> Toshiba could have settled at any time--
> But they wanted to make it a "pride" issue, and Greek tragedy resulted.
>
I didn't think these fell under the definition of Greek tragedy:

http://www.amazon.com/Troy-HD-DVD-Ju.../dp/B000E5KJI4
http://www.amazon.com/300-Combo-HD-D.../dp/B000Q6GXW2
http://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Revi.../dp/B000UPGQIK

Anyone here remember June of 1999 when DIVX threw in the towel?
There were fervent cheers in this NG then....
The HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray thing wasn't quite as monumental as the DVD vs DIVX
issue, but I'm glad Blu-Ray won due to the higher storage capacity.

"Kuskokwim" <> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:59:54 GMT, Derek Janssen wrote:
>
> > Toshiba could have settled at any time--
> > But they wanted to make it a "pride" issue, and Greek tragedy resulted.
> >
> I didn't think these fell under the definition of Greek tragedy:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Troy-HD-DVD-Ju.../dp/B000E5KJI4
> http://www.amazon.com/300-Combo-HD-D.../dp/B000Q6GXW2
> http://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Revi.../dp/B000UPGQIK

Joseph S. Powell, III wrote:
>>
>>>Toshiba could have settled at any time--
>>>But they wanted to make it a "pride" issue, and Greek tragedy resulted.
>>>
>>
>>I didn't think these fell under the definition of Greek tragedy:
>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/Troy-HD-DVD-Ju.../dp/B000E5KJI4

(Yuk yuk--For anyone who did stay awake in high school, the "Path of
pride leads to ruin and disgrace" parallels still hold.)

> Anyone here remember June of 1999 when DIVX threw in the towel?
> There were fervent cheers in this NG then....

June 16, 1999 - the National Starting Pistol.
Like DiVX, there was a gigantic release of "The coast is clear!", and
ALL the studios finally came out to play between July and
September...Oh, Harriet, the release dates.

(And maybe it was just coincidence that we got the "Yellow Submarine"
restoration announced within literally weeks of DVD's win, but for the
sake of providence, we'd like to believe it wasn't.)

> The HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray thing wasn't quite as monumental as the DVD vs DIVX
> issue,

My whole "Toshiba of Thebes" point was to beg to differ:

DiVX tried to sell themselves, had a won't-take-no corporation on their
side and certainly raised a song-and-dance, but they didn't turn it into
a war...There were no bribes, no demonizing, no taking of videogamers
hostage (PS2 fanboys notwithstanding).
They just naively thought in their little dreams that we'd go
Cocoa-Puffs over the whole PPV "Wow, never go to Blockbuster!" appeal
(yes, you *know* it sounds familiar)--And when they didn't sell,
shrugged, said, "Okayyy... ), took their financial lumps and slumped
away quietly.

I've seen Blu threads on forums about whether Toshiba execs should be
fired or sued, and HD threads about Our Evil Sony Overlords, and why
Downloads Will Probably Have the Last Laugh Anyway, Nyah, and it puts a
new perspective on historical feelings between the North and South
during Reconstruction after the Civil War--
This wasn't just a product war--It could've been, but somebody decided
to Reach for Monopoly Greatness, stake their entire future/sacred honor
on it and push their luck. And it's tragedy for them that they probably
won't stop paying for it overnight.

Derek Janssen (nine years, and STILL never set foot in a Circuit City)

On Feb 17, 4:43*pm, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> I've seen Blu threads on forums about whether Toshiba execs should be
> fired or sued, and HD threads about Our Evil Sony Overlords, and why
> Downloads Will Probably Have the Last Laugh Anyway, Nyah,...

It's only been over the last weekend that I've noticed a distinct
quieting of the "Well, HD-DVD can make a comeback if we give away
players in Happy Meals, have a bunch of Buy-One-Get-Six-Free, tell
people the color blue will give them herpes, and convince Michael Bay
to release Transformers 2 on HD-DVD sometime next month, even before
the movie gets made. Yeah, it's curtains for the Blu side!"

I've got nothing against HD-DVD as a format, but it's over people.
Let it freakin' go, already...

--

Aaron J. Bossig

http://www.GodsLabRat.com

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:16:49 -0600, "Joseph S. Powell, III"
<> wrote:

>Anyone here remember June of 1999 when DIVX threw in the towel?
>There were fervent cheers in this NG then....
>The HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray thing wasn't quite as monumental as the DVD vs DIVX
>issue, but I'm glad Blu-Ray won due to the higher, more failure prone storage capacity.

IFYPFY, you top posting Usenet retard!

Joseph S. Powell, III wrote:
> Anyone here remember June of 1999 when DIVX threw in the towel?
> There were fervent cheers in this NG then....
> The HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray thing wasn't quite as monumental as the DVD vs DIVX
> issue, but I'm glad Blu-Ray won due to the higher storage capacity.
>
Absolutely...I still remember the monstrous, "Ding! Dong! DIVX is Dead!"
thread. : )

wrote:
> On Feb 17, 4:43 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I've seen Blu threads on forums about whether Toshiba execs should be
>>fired or sued, and HD threads about Our Evil Sony Overlords, and why
>>Downloads Will Probably Have the Last Laugh Anyway, Nyah,...
>
>
> It's only been over the last weekend that I've noticed a distinct
> quieting of the "Well, HD-DVD can make a comeback if we give away
> players in Happy Meals, have a bunch of Buy-One-Get-Six-Free, tell
> people the color blue will give them herpes, and convince Michael Bay
> to release Transformers 2 on HD-DVD sometime next month, even before
> the movie gets made. Yeah, it's curtains for the Blu side!"
>
> I've got nothing against HD-DVD as a format, but it's over people.
> Let it freakin' go, already...

What we had in the HD/Blu Wars was the villain of a *moral* crusade--
Microsoft thinking we'd all buy Their Format if they could sell it the
right way, that they could crush the competition like insects if they
couldn't, and that they could distract us with Pretty Downloads of the
Future (which they'd still own the coding monopoly on) when that Plan A
didn't work.

Granted, there were just as many parallels in the DiVX Wars:
Circuit City thought we'd all buy Their Format, tried to sell us on
Easy-Download Appeal when the techs didn't look up to snuff, got Big
Holywood Directors to tell us all why they thought it was more neat-o,
and did everything they could to protect the private future monopoly
they thought they'd be able to corner on hardware sales and PPV-royalties...
But back then, DiVX seemed more like an annoyance, and Circuit City
aspiring to be a world-domination 007 villain seemed more like
"...LO-sers! "

Derek Janssen (heck, even *Apple* vs. Microsoft never got this heated)

"T.B." <> wrote in message
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> http://www.news.com/Source-Toshiba-t...3-6230960.html
>
> While I like Toshiba as a company much more than Sony, it's somewhat
> amusing and gratifying to rub this in the face of such trolls like that
> clown who spammed the HD-DVD crap from shaw.net.
>
> T.B.

Blu Ray has shot itself in the foot...many times. It is now fatal. I have
no hope that any HD optical will make the slightest dent in the market.