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acem77
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      02-13-2008
MCSE 2000 to 2003 upgrade path. What happens when 2000 is retired?

Right now I am trying to get 70-292 and 70-296 done before March 31st so I
can upgrade to my MSCE to 2003.
I have the 70-292 exam scheduled for next Tuesday.
I hope to pass and start right on to studying 70-296 and complete that test
by the March 31st deadline.
What do you think will happen if I cant complete 70-296 by March 31st.
70-292 and 70-296 will be retired and discontinued on March 31st.
Do you think I will be able to still upgrade with the non-retired core exams
that make up 70-296,(293 and 294)?
If I schedule 70-296 and fail it before the 31st do you think I will be
allowed to reschedule and take it after March 31st. what if I used a retake
voucher with the original appointment before the 31st?

Thanks
 
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John R
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      02-13-2008

"acem77" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> MCSE 2000 to 2003 upgrade path. What happens when 2000 is retired?
>
> Right now I am trying to get 70-292 and 70-296 done before March 31st so I
> can upgrade to my MSCE to 2003.
> I have the 70-292 exam scheduled for next Tuesday.
> I hope to pass and start right on to studying 70-296 and complete that
> test
> by the March 31st deadline.
> What do you think will happen if I cant complete 70-296 by March 31st.
> 70-292 and 70-296 will be retired and discontinued on March 31st.
> Do you think I will be able to still upgrade with the non-retired core
> exams
> that make up 70-296,(293 and 294)?
> If I schedule 70-296 and fail it before the 31st do you think I will be
> allowed to reschedule and take it after March 31st. what if I used a
> retake
> voucher with the original appointment before the 31st?
>
> Thanks


Yes, you can use (290 and 291) instead of 292, and you can also use (293 and
294) instead of 296 to reach MCSE.
No, you will not be able to reschedule 296 after March 31, 2008, even if you
used a retake voucher. 296 will not be available after March 31, 2008.

John R


 
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Claude Lachapelle
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      02-20-2008
Same situation (and I have a lot of collegues into this situation too), BUT
the real question is, does that worth the stress to pass those exams to get
certified with Server 2003, instead of waiting for 2008 to come up and get
certified with this version...

Somebody could answers us, since I' actually doing the same thing of Acem77,
but...

NOTE: Microsoft sent us a letter ONLY in january 2008 about this exams end
of life -- I find that just a little bit short for people not having only
that to do!!! Probably we are missing something about the learning
path/upgrade...

Thanks.

Claude Lachapelle
Systems Administrator, still MCSE

"John R" wrote:

>
> "acem77" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > MCSE 2000 to 2003 upgrade path. What happens when 2000 is retired?
> >
> > Right now I am trying to get 70-292 and 70-296 done before March 31st so I
> > can upgrade to my MSCE to 2003.
> > I have the 70-292 exam scheduled for next Tuesday.
> > I hope to pass and start right on to studying 70-296 and complete that
> > test
> > by the March 31st deadline.
> > What do you think will happen if I cant complete 70-296 by March 31st.
> > 70-292 and 70-296 will be retired and discontinued on March 31st.
> > Do you think I will be able to still upgrade with the non-retired core
> > exams
> > that make up 70-296,(293 and 294)?
> > If I schedule 70-296 and fail it before the 31st do you think I will be
> > allowed to reschedule and take it after March 31st. what if I used a
> > retake
> > voucher with the original appointment before the 31st?
> >
> > Thanks

>
> Yes, you can use (290 and 291) instead of 292, and you can also use (293 and
> 294) instead of 296 to reach MCSE.
> No, you will not be able to reschedule 296 after March 31, 2008, even if you
> used a retake voucher. 296 will not be available after March 31, 2008.
>
> John R
>
>
>

 
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John R
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      02-20-2008

"Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Same situation (and I have a lot of collegues into this situation too),
> BUT
> the real question is, does that worth the stress to pass those exams to
> get
> certified with Server 2003, instead of waiting for 2008 to come up and get
> certified with this version...
>
> Somebody could answers us, since I' actually doing the same thing of
> Acem77,
> but...
>
> NOTE: Microsoft sent us a letter ONLY in january 2008 about this exams end
> of life -- I find that just a little bit short for people not having only
> that to do!!! Probably we are missing something about the learning
> path/upgrade...
>


Not sure I completely understand your issue. There is no stress. You can
take 292 and 296 prior to 3/31/2008, or you can take (290 and 291) in place
of 292, and you can also take (293 and 294) instead of 296 whenever you like
before or after. The only thing that disappears 3/31/2008 is the option to
take 292 or 296. Therefore, you can decide to upgrade whenever you want,
but if you do it before 3/31/2008, you have the option of a shortened path
(and a harder test from what I hear).

Is it worth upgrading? That is not a question that we can answer for you.
There will be 2003 domains around for a very very long time. Will the 2003
cert be of value to you? Depends where you work, where you want to work,
what you want to do.

As to the short notice, the public notice has been on Microsoft's website
for at least a year. I remember it being brought up in several on-line
meetings long before January 2008. Microsoft sent an email out earlier this
year just as a courtesy. By their own policy, they must make public notice
one year in advance.

John R


 
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Claude Lachapelle
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      02-20-2008
Thanks John for the fast answer... that is what I was looking for, so I will
continue with the short upgrade path, even if more difficult (I'm working
with Server 2003 from the beginning).

But I think that could be nice from Microsoft if they could give us just
another month or more for those who only get this information this year!!!



"John R" wrote:

>
> "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Same situation (and I have a lot of collegues into this situation too),
> > BUT
> > the real question is, does that worth the stress to pass those exams to
> > get
> > certified with Server 2003, instead of waiting for 2008 to come up and get
> > certified with this version...
> >
> > Somebody could answers us, since I' actually doing the same thing of
> > Acem77,
> > but...
> >
> > NOTE: Microsoft sent us a letter ONLY in january 2008 about this exams end
> > of life -- I find that just a little bit short for people not having only
> > that to do!!! Probably we are missing something about the learning
> > path/upgrade...
> >

>
> Not sure I completely understand your issue. There is no stress. You can
> take 292 and 296 prior to 3/31/2008, or you can take (290 and 291) in place
> of 292, and you can also take (293 and 294) instead of 296 whenever you like
> before or after. The only thing that disappears 3/31/2008 is the option to
> take 292 or 296. Therefore, you can decide to upgrade whenever you want,
> but if you do it before 3/31/2008, you have the option of a shortened path
> (and a harder test from what I hear).
>
> Is it worth upgrading? That is not a question that we can answer for you.
> There will be 2003 domains around for a very very long time. Will the 2003
> cert be of value to you? Depends where you work, where you want to work,
> what you want to do.
>
> As to the short notice, the public notice has been on Microsoft's website
> for at least a year. I remember it being brought up in several on-line
> meetings long before January 2008. Microsoft sent an email out earlier this
> year just as a courtesy. By their own policy, they must make public notice
> one year in advance.
>
> John R
>
>
>

 
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Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]
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      02-20-2008
"Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Thanks John for the fast answer... that is what I was looking for, so I will
> continue with the short upgrade path, even if more difficult (I'm working
> with Server 2003 from the beginning).
>
> But I think that could be nice from Microsoft if they could give us just
> another month or more for those who only get this information this year!!!
>
>
>
> "John R" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Same situation (and I have a lot of collegues into this situation too),
> > > BUT
> > > the real question is, does that worth the stress to pass those exams to
> > > get
> > > certified with Server 2003, instead of waiting for 2008 to come up and get
> > > certified with this version...
> > >
> > > Somebody could answers us, since I' actually doing the same thing of
> > > Acem77,
> > > but...
> > >
> > > NOTE: Microsoft sent us a letter ONLY in january 2008 about this exams end
> > > of life -- I find that just a little bit short for people not having only
> > > that to do!!! Probably we are missing something about the learning
> > > path/upgrade...
> > >

> >
> > Not sure I completely understand your issue. There is no stress. You can
> > take 292 and 296 prior to 3/31/2008, or you can take (290 and 291) in place
> > of 292, and you can also take (293 and 294) instead of 296 whenever you like
> > before or after. The only thing that disappears 3/31/2008 is the option to
> > take 292 or 296. Therefore, you can decide to upgrade whenever you want,
> > but if you do it before 3/31/2008, you have the option of a shortened path
> > (and a harder test from what I hear).
> >
> > Is it worth upgrading? That is not a question that we can answer for you.
> > There will be 2003 domains around for a very very long time. Will the 2003
> > cert be of value to you? Depends where you work, where you want to work,
> > what you want to do.
> >
> > As to the short notice, the public notice has been on Microsoft's website
> > for at least a year. I remember it being brought up in several on-line
> > meetings long before January 2008. Microsoft sent an email out earlier this
> > year just as a courtesy. By their own policy, they must make public notice
> > one year in advance.
> >
> > John R
> >
> >
> >


This info has been public for a while now -- since last year as a matter
of fact. Some responsibility has to lay with the certified ones for
being absent from the certification community.

--
Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST
The I.T. Classroom - http://www.theitclassroom.com/
CertGuard, Inc. - http://www.certguard.com/


 
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Claude Lachapelle
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      02-20-2008
Michael, for your information (and for Microsoft), I know a lot of product's
specialist (Citrix, Cisco and others), where some are MCSE 2000 too, and they
working on getting the 2 exams done NOW since I TOLD THEM they will expire by
the end of March 2008... probably the email sent by Microsoft as a courtesy,
was not enough?!

Anyway...

"Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]" wrote:

> "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> in message news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Thanks John for the fast answer... that is what I was looking for, so I will
> > continue with the short upgrade path, even if more difficult (I'm working
> > with Server 2003 from the beginning).
> >
> > But I think that could be nice from Microsoft if they could give us just
> > another month or more for those who only get this information this year!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > "John R" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Same situation (and I have a lot of collegues into this situation too),
> > > > BUT
> > > > the real question is, does that worth the stress to pass those exams to
> > > > get
> > > > certified with Server 2003, instead of waiting for 2008 to come up and get
> > > > certified with this version...
> > > >
> > > > Somebody could answers us, since I' actually doing the same thing of
> > > > Acem77,
> > > > but...
> > > >
> > > > NOTE: Microsoft sent us a letter ONLY in january 2008 about this exams end
> > > > of life -- I find that just a little bit short for people not having only
> > > > that to do!!! Probably we are missing something about the learning
> > > > path/upgrade...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not sure I completely understand your issue. There is no stress. You can
> > > take 292 and 296 prior to 3/31/2008, or you can take (290 and 291) in place
> > > of 292, and you can also take (293 and 294) instead of 296 whenever you like
> > > before or after. The only thing that disappears 3/31/2008 is the option to
> > > take 292 or 296. Therefore, you can decide to upgrade whenever you want,
> > > but if you do it before 3/31/2008, you have the option of a shortened path
> > > (and a harder test from what I hear).
> > >
> > > Is it worth upgrading? That is not a question that we can answer for you.
> > > There will be 2003 domains around for a very very long time. Will the 2003
> > > cert be of value to you? Depends where you work, where you want to work,
> > > what you want to do.
> > >
> > > As to the short notice, the public notice has been on Microsoft's website
> > > for at least a year. I remember it being brought up in several on-line
> > > meetings long before January 2008. Microsoft sent an email out earlier this
> > > year just as a courtesy. By their own policy, they must make public notice
> > > one year in advance.
> > >
> > > John R
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
> This info has been public for a while now -- since last year as a matter
> of fact. Some responsibility has to lay with the certified ones for
> being absent from the certification community.
>
> --
> Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST
> The I.T. Classroom - http://www.theitclassroom.com/
> CertGuard, Inc. - http://www.certguard.com/
>
>
>

 
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Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]
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      02-20-2008
"Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Michael, for your information (and for Microsoft), I know a lot of product's
> specialist (Citrix, Cisco and others), where some are MCSE 2000 too, and they
> working on getting the 2 exams done NOW since I TOLD THEM they will expire by
> the end of March 2008... probably the email sent by Microsoft as a courtesy,
> was not enough?!
>
> Anyway...
>
> "Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]" wrote:
>
> > "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> > in message news:(E-Mail Removed):
> >
> > > Thanks John for the fast answer... that is what I was looking for, so I will
> > > continue with the short upgrade path, even if more difficult (I'm working
> > > with Server 2003 from the beginning).
> > >
> > > But I think that could be nice from Microsoft if they could give us just
> > > another month or more for those who only get this information this year!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "John R" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > > > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Same situation (and I have a lot of collegues into this situation too),
> > > > > BUT
> > > > > the real question is, does that worth the stress to pass those exams to
> > > > > get
> > > > > certified with Server 2003, instead of waiting for 2008 to come up and get
> > > > > certified with this version...
> > > > >
> > > > > Somebody could answers us, since I' actually doing the same thing of
> > > > > Acem77,
> > > > > but...
> > > > >
> > > > > NOTE: Microsoft sent us a letter ONLY in january 2008 about this exams end
> > > > > of life -- I find that just a little bit short for people not having only
> > > > > that to do!!! Probably we are missing something about the learning
> > > > > path/upgrade...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not sure I completely understand your issue. There is no stress. You can
> > > > take 292 and 296 prior to 3/31/2008, or you can take (290 and 291) in place
> > > > of 292, and you can also take (293 and 294) instead of 296 whenever you like
> > > > before or after. The only thing that disappears 3/31/2008 is the option to
> > > > take 292 or 296. Therefore, you can decide to upgrade whenever you want,
> > > > but if you do it before 3/31/2008, you have the option of a shortened path
> > > > (and a harder test from what I hear).
> > > >
> > > > Is it worth upgrading? That is not a question that we can answer for you.
> > > > There will be 2003 domains around for a very very long time. Will the 2003
> > > > cert be of value to you? Depends where you work, where you want to work,
> > > > what you want to do.
> > > >
> > > > As to the short notice, the public notice has been on Microsoft's website
> > > > for at least a year. I remember it being brought up in several on-line
> > > > meetings long before January 2008. Microsoft sent an email out earlier this
> > > > year just as a courtesy. By their own policy, they must make public notice
> > > > one year in advance.
> > > >
> > > > John R
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > This info has been public for a while now -- since last year as a matter
> > of fact. Some responsibility has to lay with the certified ones for
> > being absent from the certification community.
> >
> > --
> > Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST
> > The I.T. Classroom - http://www.theitclassroom.com/
> > CertGuard, Inc. - http://www.certguard.com/
> >
> >
> >


Not sure what else anyone could do since it's been about a year since
the announcement.

--
Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST
The I.T. Classroom - http://www.theitclassroom.com/
CertGuard, Inc. - http://www.certguard.com/


 
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Daemon
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      02-21-2008
My question is this. For the MCSE on Windows 2000 some of the exams are
going to retire, some are not. If you pass the core exams that have no
option before march 31st, then pass the optional exams after march 31st are
you awarded the certification?

You meet the requirements for it. Passed the exams before they all expired.
So I would think that this would count. It would just mean that if you did
not have the cores, then you would not be able to get that exam as they
expired.

If any one knows please let me know.
Thanks

"Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]" wrote:

> "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> in message news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Michael, for your information (and for Microsoft), I know a lot of product's
> > specialist (Citrix, Cisco and others), where some are MCSE 2000 too, and they
> > working on getting the 2 exams done NOW since I TOLD THEM they will expire by
> > the end of March 2008... probably the email sent by Microsoft as a courtesy,
> > was not enough?!
> >
> > Anyway...
> >
> > "Michael D. Alligood [CertGuard, Inc.]" wrote:
> >
> > > "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> > > in message news:(E-Mail Removed):
> > >
> > > > Thanks John for the fast answer... that is what I was looking for, so I will
> > > > continue with the short upgrade path, even if more difficult (I'm working
> > > > with Server 2003 from the beginning).
> > > >
> > > > But I think that could be nice from Microsoft if they could give us just
> > > > another month or more for those who only get this information this year!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "John R" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Claude Lachapelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > > > > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Same situation (and I have a lot of collegues into this situation too),
> > > > > > BUT
> > > > > > the real question is, does that worth the stress to pass those exams to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > certified with Server 2003, instead of waiting for 2008 to come up and get
> > > > > > certified with this version...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Somebody could answers us, since I' actually doing the same thing of
> > > > > > Acem77,
> > > > > > but...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NOTE: Microsoft sent us a letter ONLY in january 2008 about this exams end
> > > > > > of life -- I find that just a little bit short for people not having only
> > > > > > that to do!!! Probably we are missing something about the learning
> > > > > > path/upgrade...
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure I completely understand your issue. There is no stress. You can
> > > > > take 292 and 296 prior to 3/31/2008, or you can take (290 and 291) in place
> > > > > of 292, and you can also take (293 and 294) instead of 296 whenever you like
> > > > > before or after. The only thing that disappears 3/31/2008 is the option to
> > > > > take 292 or 296. Therefore, you can decide to upgrade whenever you want,
> > > > > but if you do it before 3/31/2008, you have the option of a shortened path
> > > > > (and a harder test from what I hear).
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it worth upgrading? That is not a question that we can answer for you.
> > > > > There will be 2003 domains around for a very very long time. Will the 2003
> > > > > cert be of value to you? Depends where you work, where you want to work,
> > > > > what you want to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > As to the short notice, the public notice has been on Microsoft's website
> > > > > for at least a year. I remember it being brought up in several on-line
> > > > > meetings long before January 2008. Microsoft sent an email out earlier this
> > > > > year just as a courtesy. By their own policy, they must make public notice
> > > > > one year in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > John R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > This info has been public for a while now -- since last year as a matter
> > > of fact. Some responsibility has to lay with the certified ones for
> > > being absent from the certification community.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST
> > > The I.T. Classroom - http://www.theitclassroom.com/
> > > CertGuard, Inc. - http://www.certguard.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
> Not sure what else anyone could do since it's been about a year since
> the announcement.
>
> --
> Michael D. Alligood, MCITP, MCTS, MCSA, MCDST
> The I.T. Classroom - http://www.theitclassroom.com/
> CertGuard, Inc. - http://www.certguard.com/
>
>
>

 
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John R
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      02-21-2008

"Daemon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> My question is this. For the MCSE on Windows 2000 some of the exams are
> going to retire, some are not. If you pass the core exams that have no
> option before march 31st, then pass the optional exams after march 31st
> are
> you awarded the certification?
>
> You meet the requirements for it. Passed the exams before they all
> expired.
> So I would think that this would count. It would just mean that if you did
> not have the cores, then you would not be able to get that exam as they
> expired.
>
> If any one knows please let me know.
> Thanks
>


I believe the answer to your question is yes, you will get the certification
as long as you complete the requirements. This means having all of the core
exams complete by 3/31. I kinda almost maybe remember someone asking that
question in one of the online meetings.

John R


 
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