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I current have a desktop running Windows Xp connected to a Sagem ASDL Modem
and a swift 2.3Mbps Broadband connection. I also have a laptop networked in
using the 1394 firewire port. Using Internet Connection Sharing, the two
machines piggyback on the broadband connection, no problems. What I want to
do is connect either a PCMIA or USB wireless transceiver into the laptop, a
similar device into the desktop and remove the cable connection.

Is this possible without a router? The shifty looking assistant I questioned
in Currys say not, but I am not convinced. My desktop will always be
hardwired into the broadband connection and does not need to be wireless, the
only thing which will move around the house is the laptop. What is the
minimum hardware I need to achieve this?

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:21:02 -0800, John G wrote:

> I current have a desktop running Windows Xp connected to a Sagem ASDL Modem
> and a swift 2.3Mbps Broadband connection. I also have a laptop networked in
> using the 1394 firewire port. Using Internet Connection Sharing, the two
> machines piggyback on the broadband connection, no problems. What I want to
> do is connect either a PCMIA or USB wireless transceiver into the laptop, a
> similar device into the desktop and remove the cable connection.
>
> Is this possible without a router? The shifty looking assistant I questioned
> in Currys say not, but I am not convinced. My desktop will always be
> hardwired into the broadband connection and does not need to be wireless, the
> only thing which will move around the house is the laptop. What is the
> minimum hardware I need to achieve this?

Connect a usb wireless access point to the desktop, a pcmcia wireless NIC
to the laptop, put them in adhoc (adhoc in wireless is the same as NIC to
NIC wired) mode and you are set.

"BobC" <> wrote in message
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| On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:21:02 -0800, John G wrote:
|
| > I current have a desktop running Windows Xp connected to a Sagem ASDL
Modem
| > and a swift 2.3Mbps Broadband connection. I also have a laptop
networked in
| > using the 1394 firewire port. Using Internet Connection Sharing, the
two
| > machines piggyback on the broadband connection, no problems. What I
want to
| > do is connect either a PCMIA or USB wireless transceiver into the
laptop, a
| > similar device into the desktop and remove the cable connection.
| >
| > Is this possible without a router? The shifty looking assistant I
questioned
| > in Currys say not, but I am not convinced. My desktop will always be
| > hardwired into the broadband connection and does not need to be
wireless, the
| > only thing which will move around the house is the laptop. What is the
| > minimum hardware I need to achieve this?
|
| Connect a usb wireless access point to the desktop, a pcmcia wireless NIC
| to the laptop, put them in adhoc (adhoc in wireless is the same as NIC to
| NIC wired) mode and you are set.

BobC's answer is correct. I would however add that it might be worthwhile to
look at the difference in price between a wireless access point and a
wireless router. I think you will find that the difference is negligible.

Personally I would go with the router. It would enable you to stop using ICS
(which I've always found kludgey at best) taking the NAT load off the host
computer. The Desktop would not need to be on for the laptop to have
Internet access. The router (depending on model) would have SPI for added
security for both computers. A router is far easier to configure and offers
more options than Windows ICS. The router would have open wired ports
available for possible future needs.

Just my opinion.

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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:00:34 -0500, HillBillyBuddhist wrote:

> "BobC" <> wrote in message
> news0sn80pebahg$....
>| On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:21:02 -0800, John G wrote:
>|
>|> I current have a desktop running Windows Xp connected to a Sagem ASDL
> Modem
>|> and a swift 2.3Mbps Broadband connection. I also have a laptop
> networked in
>|> using the 1394 firewire port. Using Internet Connection Sharing, the
> two
>|> machines piggyback on the broadband connection, no problems. What I
> want to
>|> do is connect either a PCMIA or USB wireless transceiver into the
> laptop, a
>|> similar device into the desktop and remove the cable connection.
>|>
>|> Is this possible without a router? The shifty looking assistant I
> questioned
>|> in Currys say not, but I am not convinced. My desktop will always be
>|> hardwired into the broadband connection and does not need to be
> wireless, the
>|> only thing which will move around the house is the laptop. What is the
>|> minimum hardware I need to achieve this?
>|
>| Connect a usb wireless access point to the desktop, a pcmcia wireless NIC
>| to the laptop, put them in adhoc (adhoc in wireless is the same as NIC to
>| NIC wired) mode and you are set.
>
> BobC's answer is correct. I would however add that it might be worthwhile to
> look at the difference in price between a wireless access point and a
> wireless router. I think you will find that the difference is negligible.
>
> Personally I would go with the router. It would enable you to stop using ICS
> (which I've always found kludgey at best) taking the NAT load off the host
> computer. The Desktop would not need to be on for the laptop to have
> Internet access. The router (depending on model) would have SPI for added
> security for both computers. A router is far easier to configure and offers
> more options than Windows ICS. The router would have open wired ports
> available for possible future needs.
>
> Just my opinion.

I agree.

Routers, on average, cost less then APs, so if money is a concern, just go
the easier and cheaper way and buy the router. It will be less headache for
you in the future.....

Robert....

"BobC" <> wrote in message
news0sn80pebahg$....
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:21:02 -0800, John G wrote:
>
>> I current have a desktop running Windows Xp connected to a Sagem ASDL
>> Modem
>> and a swift 2.3Mbps Broadband connection. I also have a laptop networked
>> in
>> using the 1394 firewire port. Using Internet Connection Sharing, the two
>> machines piggyback on the broadband connection, no problems. What I want
>> to
>> do is connect either a PCMIA or USB wireless transceiver into the laptop,
>> a
>> similar device into the desktop and remove the cable connection.
>>
>> Is this possible without a router? The shifty looking assistant I
>> questioned
>> in Currys say not, but I am not convinced. My desktop will always be
>> hardwired into the broadband connection and does not need to be wireless,
>> the
>> only thing which will move around the house is the laptop. What is the
>> minimum hardware I need to achieve this?
>
> Connect a usb wireless access point to the desktop, a pcmcia wireless NIC
> to the laptop, put them in adhoc (adhoc in wireless is the same as NIC to
> NIC wired) mode and you are set.

Thanks for all the replies. I went for an adhoc network using a pcmia card
and a cardbus adapter. Speed seeems to be okay when surfing ,but my
connection is 2.3Mbps which is fairly nifty anyway. For now the router
remains in the box, this is because my asdl modem has no ethernet connection
so not sure how to connect it into the router, I believe that my ISP will
also demand that I setup a new account if I connect both machines via a
router instead of ICS.

"BobC" wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:21:02 -0800, John G wrote:
>
> > I current have a desktop running Windows Xp connected to a Sagem ASDL Modem
> > and a swift 2.3Mbps Broadband connection. I also have a laptop networked in
> > using the 1394 firewire port. Using Internet Connection Sharing, the two
> > machines piggyback on the broadband connection, no problems. What I want to
> > do is connect either a PCMIA or USB wireless transceiver into the laptop, a
> > similar device into the desktop and remove the cable connection.
> >
> > Is this possible without a router? The shifty looking assistant I questioned
> > in Currys say not, but I am not convinced. My desktop will always be
> > hardwired into the broadband connection and does not need to be wireless, the
> > only thing which will move around the house is the laptop. What is the
> > minimum hardware I need to achieve this?
>
> Connect a usb wireless access point to the desktop, a pcmcia wireless NIC
> to the laptop, put them in adhoc (adhoc in wireless is the same as NIC to
> NIC wired) mode and you are set.
>

Hi
Check the TOS, most ISPs would not object to a Router ( they just would not
support your connection past the Router).
You would need to buy a stand alone External Ethernet DSL Modem.
Check this page there is an explanation about the issues involved as well as
a source to get a Modem.
DSL and Cable/DSL Routers - http://www.ezlan.net/PPPOE.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"John G" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all the replies. I went for an adhoc network using a pcmia
card
> and a cardbus adapter. Speed seeems to be okay when surfing ,but my
> connection is 2.3Mbps which is fairly nifty anyway. For now the router
> remains in the box, this is because my asdl modem has no ethernet
connection
> so not sure how to connect it into the router, I believe that my ISP will
> also demand that I setup a new account if I connect both machines via a
> router instead of ICS.
>
> "BobC" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:21:02 -0800, John G wrote:
> >
> > > I current have a desktop running Windows Xp connected to a Sagem ASDL
Modem
> > > and a swift 2.3Mbps Broadband connection. I also have a laptop
networked in
> > > using the 1394 firewire port. Using Internet Connection Sharing, the
two
> > > machines piggyback on the broadband connection, no problems. What I
want to
> > > do is connect either a PCMIA or USB wireless transceiver into the
laptop, a
> > > similar device into the desktop and remove the cable connection.
> > >
> > > Is this possible without a router? The shifty looking assistant I
questioned
> > > in Currys say not, but I am not convinced. My desktop will always be
> > > hardwired into the broadband connection and does not need to be
wireless, the
> > > only thing which will move around the house is the laptop. What is
the
> > > minimum hardware I need to achieve this?
> >
> > Connect a usb wireless access point to the desktop, a pcmcia wireless
NIC
> > to the laptop, put them in adhoc (adhoc in wireless is the same as NIC
to
> > NIC wired) mode and you are set.
> >