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Alan Gresley
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      02-12-2008
Travis Newbury wrote in reply to GTalbot:

> Are you not worried that Microsoft will have to "disappear" since you
> found (and are spreading rumors) about their browser. You are walking
> on thin ice there my man.


Travis, are you a web developer? If you are, aren't you the lease bit
concern that Microsoft is playing their same old game of secrecy.
Wouldn't it be nice if the IE team could work together with the web
development community to make IE8 a better browser. I don't care
whatever bugs IE8 has since all browsers with new layout engines will
have bugs. If I go to this address.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

I can find many 1000s of bugs. The reporting of IE8 requesting non
existing favicons is not "spreading rumors," it is stating a fact
about what the current IE8 alpha/beta does. So as some of us walk on
thin ice, Microsoft is still play their game of secrecy. Is this
something that you alway want to happen?


> Maybe it is a conspiracy?



Yes and it is working and making people like you play their merry
game.


> On a serious note, I am pretty sure Microsoft doesn't give a ****
> about you or your site, and I am also pretty sure you did not find
> something they did not already know about.



Can you prove that? Facts please? By that statement it appears that
you are just blindly walking in the dark. Another list of bugs that I
sent to a IE team member was greeted with great enthusiasm. The person
thanked me and said please forward further bugs to them and another
team member. I know things about IE8 which no one outside of the
Microsoft knows and in respect from certain people this information
will remains unknown at this point in time if not forever.

So Travis, instead of saying "Microsoft doesn't give a sh*t about you
or your site," please tell me what is really bothering you?. You whole
reply to Gérard is just a slag off and an insult. I know which of you
two already that I have more respect for. Can you offer something
constructive to this discussion?

Alan Gresley
 
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Travis Newbury
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      02-12-2008
On Feb 12, 7:28 am, Alan Gresley <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Travis, are you a web developer? If you are, aren't you the lease bit
> concern that Microsoft is playing their same old game of secrecy.
> Wouldn't it be nice if the IE team could work together with the web
> development community to make IE8 a better browser. I don't care
> whatever bugs IE8 has since all browsers with new layout engines will
> have bugs.


I do not consider myself a web developer, but more a web applications
specialist (cool title I just though up). And no I am not concerned
with what Microsoft does. They can be as secretive as they like.
they can make their browser anyway they like, this is a free market.
If they do things that the population doesn't like, then the
population will move away from their products.

I completely believe in letting the free market system work.
Microsoft (or any other company) is more than welcome to do what ever
they like. The users will be the ultimate judge on if it is right or
not.


> I can find many 1000s of bugs. The reporting of IE8 requesting non
> existing favicons is not "spreading rumors,"


Did you read the line where I said "Now on a serious note"? That
implied that I was not being serious with the statement above.

> about what the current IE8 alpha/beta does. So as some of us walk on
> thin ice, Microsoft is still play their game of secrecy. Is this
> something that you alway want to happen?


It doesn't matter to me how Microsoft manages their business or
products. Other than their operating system I don't use any Microsoft
products.


> > Maybe it is a conspiracy?

> Yes and it is working and making people like you play their merry
> game.


Maybe you completely missed the point of my post. (actually it is
obvious you missed the point)

> So Travis, instead of saying "Microsoft doesn't give a sh*t about you
> or your site," please tell me what is really bothering you?.


Nothing bothers me. Don't you get it? I care about microsoft as much
as they care about me or you.
 
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Alan Gresley
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      02-12-2008
Travis Newbury wrote:

> I do not consider myself a web developer, but more a web applications
> specialist (cool title I just though up). And no I am not concerned
> with what Microsoft does. They can be as secretive as they like.
> they can make their browser anyway they like, this is a free market.
> If they do things that the population doesn't like, then the
> population will move away from their products.



The general population are just ignorant of browsers, which is OK. The
world full of web developers/designers who applaud browsers like FF
and Safari. One reason is that their engines are built in an open
development community. The Europeon Union is described as a free
market. The countries in the EU do not compete against each other but
work together. What is the "this" you are referring to where you say
"this is a free market." I do care about or am concerned byt the
practices of Enterprise, Government, etc, etc. I don't believe there
should be monopolies and there is one monopoly which is holding back
the open web. Is that how you would want your government of your
country to work?


> > I can find many 1000s of bugs. The reporting of IE8 requesting non
> > existing favicons is not "spreading rumors,"

>
> Did you read the line where I said "Now on a serious note"? That
> implied that I was not being serious with the statement above.



By your whole contribution to this thread, I don't know when your
being serious, giving ridicule, basing an opinion on informed facts or
not or just being plain ignorant.


> > > Maybe it is a conspiracy?

> > Yes and it is working and making people like you play their merry
> > game.

>
> Maybe you completely missed the point of my post. (actually it is
> obvious you missed the point)



No I have not missed your point. I ask you directory what is really
bothering you because it seems that your initial contribution to this
thread was to just put down Gérard Talbot and his efforts. This is one
question which I would expected to have been answered.


> > So Travis, instead of saying "Microsoft doesn't give a sh*t about you
> > or your site," please tell me what is really bothering you?.

>
> Nothing bothers me. Don't you get it? I care about microsoft as much
> as they care about me or you.



So if you don't give a dam about Microsoft, why are you even
commenting in this thread? Please go and dump on some other thread
elsewhere.

 
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Travis Newbury
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      02-12-2008
On Feb 12, 1:10 pm, Alan Gresley <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > > So Travis, instead of saying "Microsoft doesn't give a sh*t about you
> > > or your site," please tell me what is really bothering you?.

>
> > Nothing bothers me. Don't you get it? I care about microsoft as much
> > as they care about me or you.

>
> So if you don't give a dam about Microsoft, why are you even
> commenting in this thread? Please go and dump on some other thread
> elsewhere.


This thread is not Microsoft is it?

 
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