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I have tried to validate my web site, and it has a lot of errors.
Now, the site works fine in IE and Mozilla Firefox without problems.
I don't know if there are problems using other browsers.
I am asking to you if it is really so important the correct validating when I work very well with my site as it is now.
Recently I have improved it using your experience, thank you very much.
As you can see, I am only a self-made-html-man )
Paul
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http://www.tortebomboniere.com/bombo...ourcake01.html

Paul wrote:
> I have tried to validate my web site, and it has a lot of errors.
> Now, the site works fine in IE and Mozilla Firefox without problems.
> I don't know if there are problems using other browsers.
> I am asking to you if it is really so important the correct validating when I work very well with my site as it is now.
> Recently I have improved it using your experience, thank you very much.
> As you can see, I am only a self-made-html-man )
> Paul
> --
> http://www.tortebomboniere.com/bombo...ourcake01.html
>

Just forget the validation for the time being. You have serious
useability issues.

You can start with navigation. You should have clear consistent
navigation on all pages. Make it nearly the same on every page and put
it either at the top or along one side, never in the middle. You should
never have pages that have no way of getting to the rest of your site
without backing up.

Then reduce the clutter, and finally emphasize what you want to sell.
Why should a clock and figurines take up most of the initial visible
space on a page about cakes?

Start over. Christ, you're an Italian. Think elegant design. Don't
think MySpace.

Ciao,
Jeff
>

"Jeff" <jeff@spam_me_not.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:...
> Paul wrote:
>> I have tried to validate my web site

> Start over. Christ, you're an Italian. Think elegant design. Don't think MySpace.
>
> Ciao,
> Jeff


Thank you very much, Jeff )
It is very useful reading about points of view different than mine, and you're wright.
It helps me thinking and design the site in a different way.
Ciao
Paul

In article <47a094b8$0$26143$>,
"Paul" <> wrote:

> I have tried to validate my web site, and it has a lot of errors.
> Now, the site works fine in IE and Mozilla Firefox without problems.
> I don't know if there are problems using other browsers.
> I am asking to you if it is really so important the correct validating when I
> work very well with my site as it is now.
> Recently I have improved it using your experience, thank you very much.
> As you can see, I am only a self-made-html-man )
> Paul
> --
> http://www.tortebomboniere.com/bombo...ourcake01.html

Its very nice Paul. But the engine can be tuned a bit. How about
a doctype to begin with?


(I know you are not Luigi, he was careful to have doctypes...)

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dorayme

"dorayme" <> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:doraymeRidThis-...
> In article <47a094b8$0$26143$>,
> "Paul" <> wrote:
>
>
> Its very nice Paul. But the engine can be tuned a bit. How about
> a doctype to begin with?
> (I know you are not Luigi, he was careful to have doctypes...)
> dorayme

Thank you dorayme, you are right, I must begin to study and apply doctype. I'll try to find the time, as I am very busy
with my (main) work about favor cakes....
Paul

On Jan 30, 9:16 am, "Paul" <orelieteNOS...@NOSPAMtiscali.it> wrote:
> I have tried to validate my web site, and it has a lot of errors.
> Now, the site works fine in IE and Mozilla Firefox without problems.
> I don't know if there are problems using other browsers.
> I am asking to you if it is really so important the correct validating when I work very well with my site as it is now.
> Recently I have improved it using your experience, thank you very much.
> As you can see, I am only a self-made-html-man )
> Paul
> --http://www.tortebomboniere.com/bomboniere/favourcake01.html

Some of those cakes look good enough to eat. However the air express
to the US likely would cost far more than the cake these days. I used
to order a torte from Demel in Vienna for the holidays, but the air
express increases have prompted me to not do so for the past few
years.

I will comment only on the validation problem. I have been called many
things, but being a good artist is not one of them . First there
must be a Doctype and Character encoding. If you let the w3c validator
default, the page can not be validated at all. However, even using
likely docytypes and character encoding, there still are many
validation errors. There are some huge commercial sites that are full
of validation errors. Many of these look as if they were written by a
committee(or html template program) over several years with portions
of code written in html 3.2, various versions of html 4.01, and
sometimes various versions of xhtml. Because many browsers will
respond correctly to such a mixture, the page may appear satisfactory
from a practical viewpoint. However one must check the page on most
common browsers to see that it works properly, and when a browser
updates there is no certainty that it still will work properly. Thus,
if you do not bring the page up to some w3c standard (html 4.01 strict
likely would be ideal for your page), you need to check it on browsers
likely to be used for it. In addition to recent IE and Firefox, I
would suggest Opera and Safari at a minimum. Opera is a free download.
For those with a Windows OS, there is now Safari for Windows which
also is a free download. Since Seamonkey uses a basic Firefox type
browser with many extras, it likely will respond the same as Firefox,
but it is also a free download if you wish to check.

Even for someone who knows html well, your page could take quite a
while to update to some W3C standard, because many changes would be
required.

Paul wrote:
> "Jeff" <jeff@spam_me_not.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:...
>> Paul wrote:
>>> I have tried to validate my web site
>
>> Start over. Christ, you're an Italian. Think elegant design. Don't think MySpace.

>
> Thank you very much, Jeff )
> It is very useful reading about points of view different than mine, and you're wright.
> It helps me thinking and design the site in a different way.

Jeff have a very good point. Since you are authoring your own site the
cost to you is not per page. This is when less is more. Put less on each
page and have more pages...put the focus on your product. Keep your
navigation consistent.


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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Jeff wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> I have tried to validate my web site, and it has a lot of errors.
>> Now, the site works fine in IE and Mozilla Firefox without problems.
>> I don't know if there are problems using other browsers.
>> I am asking to you if it is really so important the correct validating
>> when I work very well with my site as it is now.
>> Recently I have improved it using your experience, thank you very much.
>> As you can see, I am only a self-made-html-man )
>> Paul
>> --
>> http://www.tortebomboniere.com/bombo...ourcake01.html
>
> Just forget the validation for the time being. You have serious
> useability issues.
>
> You can start with navigation. You should have clear consistent
> navigation on all pages. Make it nearly the same on every page and put
> it either at the top or along one side, never in the middle. You should
> never have pages that have no way of getting to the rest of your site
> without backing up.
>
> Then reduce the clutter, and finally emphasize what you want to sell.
> Why should a clock and figurines take up most of the initial visible
> space on a page about cakes?

I was wondering about the clock. What's the point?

The OP takes up an awful lot of space giving us *four times* the same
litany of occasions for which they bake cakes, and in one instance
breaking the list up every couple of items with another chorus of "Favor
cakes and Bonbonniere for". And that's before getting to the links for
the individual styles of favor cake.

Don't get me wrong, OP. My mouth is watering. But you could cut out at
least one-third of your page, and maybe a half, and accomplish
everything you need to.

> Start over. Christ, you're an Italian. Think elegant design. Don't
> think MySpace.

Harsh!

Harlan Messinger wrote:

> Jeff wrote:
>> Start over. Christ, you're an Italian. Think elegant design. Don't
>> think MySpace.
>
> Harsh!

http://www.firelily.com/opinions/mistress.html

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-Friends don't let friends drive Vista

In article
<D55oj.518974$>,
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <> wrote:

> Harlan Messinger wrote:
>
> > Jeff wrote:
> >> Start over. Christ, you're an Italian. Think elegant design. Don't
> >> think MySpace.
> >
> > Harsh!
>
> http://www.firelily.com/opinions/mistress.html

"After ten seconds, human beings lose focus on whatever they were
paying attention to."

Sad isn't it?

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dorayme