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JumboShrimps
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      01-19-2008
Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
After FIOS install I can't see the
other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
to support Actiontec wireless router.
How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
to share data again?
 
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Lem
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      01-19-2008
JumboShrimps wrote:
> Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
> After FIOS install I can't see the
> other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
> to support Actiontec wireless router.
> How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
> to share data again?


If I had to guess -- and I do, because you've told us next to nothing
about your computers and your network -- I'd say that you have
third-party (Norton, McAfee, etc.) firewalls and/or "security suites"
running on your computers and need to reconfigure these firewalls to
permit the new range of IP addresses to be trusted.

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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      01-19-2008
Hi
If the Verizon Router is now part of the system the Linksys has to added as
an Access Point.
Wireless Router as an AP - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
If you want to remove the Verizon Hardware you have to find from them what
are the authentication (ID & Password) variables and their compatibility
with the Linksys Router.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"JumboShrimps" <> wrote in message
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> Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
> After FIOS install I can't see the
> other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
> to support Actiontec wireless router.
> How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
> to share data again?


 
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JumboShrimps
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      01-19-2008
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much thinking.
I had two pc's cabled together through a linksys hub.
Now I have a verizon wirelss router with four ports to plug in my
existing cat 5 from the computers on my network.
All computers can see the Internet, but cannot see each other.

OF COURSE I have the authentication password and ID from verizon -
they
gave it to me.


How do I share data between computers now that I have the Verizon
router?
Do I have to add an additional network card to each computer and start
a second network?

Verizon will not answer any questions about home networks -
essentially they trashed my
network and said, "sux being you".


On Jan 19, 1:08*pm, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."
<j...@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
> Hi
> If the Verizon Router is now part of the system the Linksys has to added as
> an Access Point.
> Wireless Router as an AP - *http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
> If you want to remove the Verizon Hardware you have to find from them what
> are the authentication (ID & Password) variables and their compatibility
> with the Linksys Router.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "JumboShrimps" <goo...@pflaumnet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0cab2fa5-87a4-4b51-b0c2-...
>
>
>
> > Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
> > After FIOS install I can't see the
> > other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
> > to support Actiontec wireless router.
> > How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
> > to share data again?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      01-19-2008
Hi
If your computers are connected to the Verizon devise and are capable to
share the Internet they can also share their own resources.
All you have to do is to configure the Sharing. There is No need for second
cards or another Router.
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"JumboShrimps" <> wrote in message
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much thinking.
I had two pc's cabled together through a linksys hub.
Now I have a verizon wirelss router with four ports to plug in my
existing cat 5 from the computers on my network.
All computers can see the Internet, but cannot see each other.

OF COURSE I have the authentication password and ID from verizon -
they
gave it to me.


How do I share data between computers now that I have the Verizon
router?
Do I have to add an additional network card to each computer and start
a second network?

Verizon will not answer any questions about home networks -
essentially they trashed my
network and said, "sux being you".


On Jan 19, 1:08 pm, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."
<j...@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
> Hi
> If the Verizon Router is now part of the system the Linksys has to added
> as
> an Access Point.
> Wireless Router as an AP - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
> If you want to remove the Verizon Hardware you have to find from them what
> are the authentication (ID & Password) variables and their compatibility
> with the Linksys Router.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "JumboShrimps" <goo...@pflaumnet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0cab2fa5-87a4-4b51-b0c2-...
>
>
>
> > Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
> > After FIOS install I can't see the
> > other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
> > to support Actiontec wireless router.
> > How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
> > to share data again?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


 
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Jim
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      01-19-2008

"JumboShrimps" <> wrote in message
news:e0d48527-af95-4c3f-bf70-...
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much thinking.
I had two pc's cabled together through a linksys hub.
Now I have a verizon wirelss router with four ports to plug in my
existing cat 5 from the computers on my network.
All computers can see the Internet, but cannot see each other.

OF COURSE I have the authentication password and ID from verizon -
they
gave it to me.


How do I share data between computers now that I have the Verizon
router?
Do I have to add an additional network card to each computer and start
a second network?

Verizon will not answer any questions about home networks -
essentially they trashed my
network and said, "sux being you".


On Jan 19, 1:08 pm, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."
<j...@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
> Hi
> If the Verizon Router is now part of the system the Linksys has to added
> as
> an Access Point.
> Wireless Router as an AP - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
> If you want to remove the Verizon Hardware you have to find from them what
> are the authentication (ID & Password) variables and their compatibility
> with the Linksys Router.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "JumboShrimps" <goo...@pflaumnet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0cab2fa5-87a4-4b51-b0c2-...
>
>
>
> > Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
> > After FIOS install I can't see the
> > other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
> > to support Actiontec wireless router.
> > How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
> > to share data again?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Something, usually a firewall, is block ICMP packets. The evidence is that
your computers cannot see each other. Can each computer ping itself?

Do not proceed further until you have solved this situation.

You share data by creating a share of a folder on one computer. Then you
enable use of the folder by creating a shared resource. I usually setup
share via the "net share" command through cmd.exe. I setup the connection
via the "net use" command through cmd.exe.

You can find out more by visiting the websites of MVP Jack or MVP Chuck.

Jim


 
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Lem
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      01-20-2008
JumboShrimps wrote:
> Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much thinking.
> I had two pc's cabled together through a linksys hub.
> Now I have a verizon wirelss router with four ports to plug in my
> existing cat 5 from the computers on my network.
> All computers can see the Internet, but cannot see each other.
>
> OF COURSE I have the authentication password and ID from verizon -
> they
> gave it to me.
>
>
> How do I share data between computers now that I have the Verizon
> router?
> Do I have to add an additional network card to each computer and start
> a second network?
>
> Verizon will not answer any questions about home networks -
> essentially they trashed my
> network and said, "sux being you".
>
>
> On Jan 19, 1:08 pm, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."
> <j...@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>> If the Verizon Router is now part of the system the Linksys has to added as
>> an Access Point.
>> Wireless Router as an AP - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
>> If you want to remove the Verizon Hardware you have to find from them what
>> are the authentication (ID & Password) variables and their compatibility
>> with the Linksys Router.
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "JumboShrimps" <goo...@pflaumnet.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:0cab2fa5-87a4-4b51-b0c2-...
>>
>>
>>
>>> Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
>>> After FIOS install I can't see the
>>> other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
>>> to support Actiontec wireless router.
>>> How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
>>> to share data again?- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>


No, you don't have to get any more network cards.

Assuming that your network cards obtain their IP addresses automatically
from the DHCP server in the router (i.e., the default setting), your
original Linksys assigned IPs in the subnet 192.168.1.x. The new
Actiontek has assigned IPs in the subnet 192.168.0.x.

If you have any sort of firewall installed in your computers, you
probably made things work originally by configuring them to allow
192.168.1.1 through 192.168.1.255 as "trusted" or "allowed." Because
you're not using those addresses anymore, the firewalls are blocking
things. Reconfigure the firewalls.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
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JumboShrimps
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      01-20-2008
I can ping each computer from each other (I checked that first),
so it seems like I'm 90% there.

Zone Alarm is allowing Verizon as a trusted internet source,
there are no other networks visible (old network was wiped
out by Verzion routher) to Zone Alarm.
The previous Linksys router was a simple $20 CAT5 router,
it did not, nor could not, assign anything.
I assinged the old network addresses,
only one computer (all are WIN2K)
was connected to the internet through a modem,
all the other computers
accessed the intenet through that one computer via TCP/IP.
The Verizon router is now assigning tcp addresses through DNS.


On Jan 19, 7:06*pm, Lem <lem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> JumboShrimps wrote:
> > Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much thinking.
> > I had two pc's cabled together through a linksys hub.
> > Now I have a verizon wirelss router with four ports to plug in my
> > existing cat 5 from the computers on my network.
> > All computers can see the Internet, but cannot see each other.

>
> > OF COURSE I have the authentication password and ID from verizon -
> > they
> > gave it to me.

>
> > How do I share data between *computers now that I have the Verizon
> > router?
> > Do I have to add an additional network card to each computer and start
> > a second network?

>
> > Verizon will not answer any questions about home networks -
> > essentially they trashed my
> > network and said, "sux being you".

>
> > On Jan 19, 1:08 pm, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."
> > <j...@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> If the Verizon Router is now part of the system the Linksys has to added as
> >> an Access Point.
> >> Wireless Router as an AP - *http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
> >> If you want to remove the Verizon Hardware you have to find from them what
> >> are the authentication (ID & Password) variables and their compatibility
> >> with the Linksys Router.
> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).

>
> >> "JumboShrimps" <goo...@pflaumnet.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:0cab2fa5-87a4-4b51-b0c2-...

>
> >>> Networked computers were hard wired through Linksys router.
> >>> After FIOS install I can't see the
> >>> other computers 'cause ip addresses were changed by Verizon
> >>> to support Actiontec wireless router.
> >>> How can I get my networked pc's - which are not wireless,
> >>> to share data again?- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> No, you don't have to get any more network cards.
>
> Assuming that your network cards obtain their IP addresses automatically
> from the DHCP server in the router (i.e., the default setting), your
> original Linksys assigned IPs in the subnet 192.168.1.x. *The new
> Actiontek has assigned IPs in the subnet 192.168.0.x.
>
> If you have any sort of firewall installed in your computers, you
> probably made things work originally by configuring them to allow
> 192.168.1.1 through 192.168.1.255 as "trusted" or "allowed." *Because
> you're not using those addresses anymore, the firewalls are blocking
> things. *Reconfigure the firewalls.
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...compessay.htm- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


 
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      01-20-2008
JumboShrimps wrote:
> I can ping each computer from each other (I checked that first),
> so it seems like I'm 90% there.
>
> Zone Alarm is allowing Verizon as a trusted internet source,
> there are no other networks visible (old network was wiped
> out by Verzion routher) to Zone Alarm.
> The previous Linksys router was a simple $20 CAT5 router,
> it did not, nor could not, assign anything.
> I assinged the old network addresses,
> only one computer (all are WIN2K)
> was connected to the internet through a modem,
> all the other computers
> accessed the intenet through that one computer via TCP/IP.
> The Verizon router is now assigning tcp addresses through DNS.
>



You're using network terminology, but not in a way that makes any sense.
Please add some information --

Are all of your computers are connected by Eithernet cable to an
Actiontek router?

Other than physically changing the router and physically changing where
the Ethernet cables are connected, what else was changed following the
changeover? For example, you initially wrote that all of your "ip
addresses were changed by Verizon." What were they before (when you
assigned them) and what are they now?

Are all of your computers are running Win2K?

Is ZoneAlarm firewall installed an *each* computer?

*How* is "Zone Alarm is allowing Verizon as a trusted internet source"
implemented? That is, what did you do to make this so?

On each computer, open a command prompt and run "ipconfig /all" without
quotes. Paste the results.

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      01-20-2008

"Lem" <> wrote in message
news:...
> JumboShrimps wrote:
>> I can ping each computer from each other (I checked that first),
>> so it seems like I'm 90% there.
>>
>> Zone Alarm is allowing Verizon as a trusted internet source,
>> there are no other networks visible (old network was wiped
>> out by Verzion routher) to Zone Alarm.
>> The previous Linksys router was a simple $20 CAT5 router,
>> it did not, nor could not, assign anything.
>> I assinged the old network addresses,
>> only one computer (all are WIN2K)
>> was connected to the internet through a modem,
>> all the other computers
>> accessed the intenet through that one computer via TCP/IP.
>> The Verizon router is now assigning tcp addresses through DNS.
>>

>
>
> You're using network terminology, but not in a way that makes any sense.
> Please add some information --
>
> Are all of your computers are connected by Eithernet cable to an Actiontek
> router?
>
> Other than physically changing the router and physically changing where
> the Ethernet cables are connected, what else was changed following the
> changeover? For example, you initially wrote that all of your "ip
> addresses were changed by Verizon." What were they before (when you
> assigned them) and what are they now?
>
> Are all of your computers are running Win2K?
>
> Is ZoneAlarm firewall installed an *each* computer?
>
> *How* is "Zone Alarm is allowing Verizon as a trusted internet source"
> implemented? That is, what did you do to make this so?

Perhaps what he means is that he entered Verison in the the trusted zone.
Does that term include the dns servers as well?
>
> On each computer, open a command prompt and run "ipconfig /all" without
> quotes. Paste the results.
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

I don't see where you set ZA to pass ICMP packets, but if you can ping each
computer from each of the others, you must have.
Yes, it would be helpful to see ipconfig/all for each computer.
Jim


 
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